Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Java/Things you can do/to do

THE place to contribute ideas about what to do next...

• Questions:
  • 1) Where should we tag {{Portal|Java|Wave.svg}} and/or {{Java (Sun)}} / {{Java Virtual Machine}}: on some or all Java categories, on some or all Java articles?
    
    
    • I'll risk an answer to my own question: the Portal template is used on 2,200,000 pages so it should be safe to put its Java incarnation in all Java-related articles, under the See also section. As for the navbox mechanism, it seems to be used extensively by some projects and not at all by others. I think the Java (Sun) navbox is a worthwhile addition to any Java-related article (more than the over-specialized JVM one), right before the Category tags. But I don't think putting any of these 3 templates in remaining categories is worthwile. The cumbersome job of putting the 2 tags, Portal and Java (Sun), in all Java-related articles should be done in combination with the tagging of unaccessed Java-related articles with {{Compu-stub}}. Anyone with another opinion?...
      --  Alain  R 3 4 5 
      ^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 02:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
      
      
      
  • 2) Is there a better way to screen for untagged Java material than the searches suggested under List: in Things you can do?
    
    
    • Again I'll do some loud thinking here about this second question of mine. Since I could not figure out a less convoluted way of finding existing Wikipedia content currently untagged for Java, I'll keep it at that. The first search I'm referring to gives 935 articles, the second search is 3515 long; so I guess we will stay with the first one for the time being. What I suggest is to cover all of that material by placing those 935 links in a list (on the to_do subpage) with 3 types: 'Good candidates', 'Bad candidates' and 'Unclear'. An example of a 'Good' article for inclusion in Java categories would be Jess_programming_language, a 'Bad candidate' would be Computer and an 'Unclear' is Cross-platform. After that process, we settle the 'Unclear' and then we tag all the 'Good candidates' with Java categories. What do YOU think?
      --  Alain  R 3 4 5 
      ^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 02:27, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
      
      
      
  • 3) What kind of Infoboxes (if any) like {{Infobox software}} should we put in articles?
    
    • Since there is not a whole lot of folks doing stuff here presently, I'll answer this one of mine gladly for you Javawees: having done researching on this subject, I don't think there are any other infobox in existence adequate for Java-related material (except maybe in rare cases). The Infobox software should therefore be added BUT only to those articles that talk about well... a piece of software. That could be done at the same time that we do the BIGTO ('BIG tagging operation'), see 1 and 2 above.
      --  Alain  R 3 4 5 
      ^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 02:51, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
      
      
      
  • 4) What are the merits of using {{Template:Did_you_know}} to get visibility on the main Wikipedia page? (not so urgent...)
    
    
    
  • 5) We need to discuss WPBanner hooks with the Computing project in order to get specific Quality-rating statistics for Java articles:
    • What do you think about that compromise?
    • a) We ask them to add this in their Template:WikiProject Computing: (already done by TW)

|tf 5={{{Java|}}}

|TF_5_LINK = Wikipedia:WikiProject Java

|TF_5_NAME = WikiProject Java

|TF_5_NESTED = Java

|TF_5_IMAGE = Crystal_java.png

|TF_5_QUALITY = yes

|TF_5_IMPORTANCE = {{{java-importance}}}

|TF_5_ASSESSMENT_CAT = Java articles

• b) Then we can put this kind of tags in Java-related talk pages and get both our own Importance rating and their Quality rating in the stats matrix:

{{wpbs||1=

{{WikiProject_Computing|class=|importance=|auto=yes|Java=yes}}

{{WikiProject_Java|importance=mid}}

}}

{{to_do}}

• c) To that end, I did the first simulated test on Talk:J2EE application, you can see the stats matrix here, it's great!
• d) Furthermore, after that we could put the {{Compu-stub}} tag in all Java-related article pages NOT already quality-rated and ask TinucherianBot to auto-assess on the talk pages; that would give us a base Quality rating to start with.
  --  Alain  R 3 4 5 
  ^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 02:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)