Talk:Ogg formats in HTML5

Whose idea was this?

I see who opposed it, but who brought it up in the first place?

What's so special about OGG?

What other free (libre) media format has been proposed for inclusion in a W3C markup specification? PNG? SVG? TXT? RSS? WTF? None? It's not even required that useragents support or display images of any format at all - what's so special about OGG that it gets special attention from W3C? This isn't intended to be argumentative, I sincerely want to know what's behind this. It seems so contrary to the way any other peripheral media is considered in relation to Web markup language specifications and development. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.247.104.84 (talk) 04:08, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The special part of ogg is that this format have no patents and everybody/every vendor can implement this format. The idea behind the video tag is that every browser should be able to handle the video without install an extra plugin - and on some os the plugins are not avaible, i.e. dos or old windows versions(and many other oses)!mabdul 20:32, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The idea is to avoid the current mess we're in regarding video on the Web. Beside Flash, you have Windows Media files, Quicktime files, Realvideo... Each requiring its own plugin/player, most of them from a specific vendor, and sometimes not easily available across OS. Ogg are the only open-source formats for multimedia files, and therefore suitable for implementation on every OS without vendor lock-in. But of course, Apple doesn't want people to move away from their proprietary Quicktime player which is currently installed on a majority of computer. Even if Quicktime is probably better than Theora in term of image quality, if it wasn't needed anymore for most video, their installed base would drop (remember, they tried to push Safari on Windows by including it by default in the Quicktime updater). Ksempac (talk) 09:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move to "Ogg formats in HTML 5"

This page started out as a section of the page about HTML 5, describing a historic event entitled the "Ogg controversy". It has not changed much since the split, therefore it still would fit better into a bigger context like that of the first sentence, namely the role of Ogg formats in HTML 5. A slightly wider context like "Ogg formats in HTML 5" would make it appropriate to also include some updated information, for example about the format war of the web which Ogg formats are supposed to become part of, as well as the bigger historic picture of Ogg formats in HTML 5, like the motivation for it. I will start elaborating this a little.

-- 79.161.192.128 -- 1. august 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.161.192.128 (talk) 11:05, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to keep it as a separate article. It is in a bigger context as described and linked in the article. -- Henriok (talk) 14:49, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]