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Unreasonable Study

I am removing the study on percentages of people who identify themselves as bisexual. The numbers are absurdly low and can only reflect a flaw. No one needs to read this and assume they are in such an extreme minority. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.5.190.167 (talk) 09:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Evidently they're back. Do you know of any other valid, relevant research that backs up your claim, or are you just speaking from ideology? 66.234.220.231 (talk) 06:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Shouldn't this article be in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sexology_and_Sexuality. 24.32.208.58 (talk) 02:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would say yes; although homosexuality isn't within that project either, so perhaps it's left to LGBT studies? It seems, however, that both would apply. I'm going to add bisexuality to the philosophy wikiproject, which already contains the homosexuality article. Evolauxia (talk) 10:22, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bisexuality in Wicked?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.145.74 (talk) 10:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've recently read through Gregory Maguire's Wicked myself and can't remember any bisexual characters (certainly no significant bisexual characters) appearing in the novel. I haven't read its sequel, Son of a Witch, though, and I suppose I could be forgetting about something, so I thought I'd ask here first before removing it. Oh, and while I'm commenting, this talk page could probably stand to be archived, but I'll leave that up to a more frequent editor of the article (I wouldn't want to accidentally archive an ongoing discussion or anything). —Mears man (talk) 04:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

maguire actually touches on "non-hetero" sexuality in a few of his books. While not as blatent as Son of a Witch (where Liir is checking out a guy's butt while away from his pregnant wife/girlfriend), the reference in Wicked is during the discussion Elphaba has with her father when she comes back to Munchkinland to visit. Frex talks briefly about the unusual relationship between him, Melena, and Turtle Heart - the telling quote is, "We shared him." -ΖαππερΝαππερ ^Babel_Alexandria 18:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Bisexuals in this sense may be attracted to more than one gender but only to one sex. For example, a male bisexual may be attracted to aspects of men and masculinity, but not to the male body." It seems odd that this would but mentioned but the other position, being attracted to a gender regardless of sex, is not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.79.11.250 (talk) 16:39, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should Jenna Haze be an example on there or something? ~~Sealim~~ (talk) 16:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Biasexuality

The term "Biasexuality" is a neologism, and not found in any of the scholarly literature. I have reverted someone who added it to the lede definition. Atom (talk) 17:50, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, bisexual dating is very fashionable now. And the most famous & sweet dating site is of course

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Bisexuality does not encompass asexuality

In fact, it is a logical contradiction. Bisexuals are attracted to both sexes to some degree, whereas asexuals are not attracted to either sex. If they were, they wouldn't be "asexual." It's true that some people may identify themselves as asexual bisexuals, or asexual heterosexuals, or whatever, but it shouldn't be part of the definition. The clearest definition is what was here previously and can be found on many websites (e.g. https://www.msu.edu/~alliance/faq/faqbisexuality.html#A1: "Bisexuality means sexual or romantic attraction or behavior directed towards some members of more than one sex." --Jcbutler (talk) 14:17, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Intro

This page defines bisexuality as only a sexual orientation, yet many section in this page do no deal with sexual orientation, but rather sexual relationships with both men and women. It seems in some instances bisexuality could be used to refer to a sexual orientation of someone attracted to both men and women or to someone who has sex with both men and women. This is similar to the definition used on the homosexuality page.I think we should use the same designation. This is also consistent with scientific articles such as A study of the married bisexual male: paradox and resolution. I think the current definition is incorrect, does not reflect what is in the article and should be changed to say something like:

Bisexuality refers to sexual behavior with[1] or attraction to people of both sexes, or to a bisexual orientation. As a sexual orientation, bisexuality refers to people who "can experience sexual, emotional, and affectional attraction to both their own sex and the opposite sex"; "it also refers to an individual’s sense of personal and social identity based on those attractions, behaviors expressing them, and membership in a community of others who share them."[2] Joshuajohanson (talk) 22:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kudos

Despite the need for some improvements, Bisexuality is an excellent Wikipedia entry and I want to personally thank all the editors who have contributed to the page. From a personal perspective, as a psychologist, and as a writer, I am impressed with the sensitivity, sophistication, and well-crafted prose of the article. I appreciate your hard work. Markworthen (talk) 18:02, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Could someone with more skill/knowledge than me please remove the "[justincredible11] (jeff is super gay) 02:58, 23 September 2008 (UTC)" insert at the beginning of the article. I can't seem to find where it's located in the edit page. Thanks. Farmercarlos (talk) 21:00, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to have been taken care of. Carl.bunderson (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bisexual novels - Science fiction

Though not a prevailing theme or plot point, the bisexual themes of the following novels should be included: Dhalgren - Samuel R. Delany - 1970. "Kid", shows a bisexual bent throughout the novel, and the novel has ties back to Greco-roman mythology suggesting just such a tie in. I Will Fear No Evil - Robert E. Heinlein - 1975. A man is put into a womans body with her thoughts still intact. His acceptance of the physiological needs and psycological needs of the female side are addressed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.209.180.28 (talk) 02:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Change in lead?

BiAndBi wants a change in the lead, proposing that bisexuality should not be defined as a sexual attraction to only two genders. I point out that the current, long-standing lead, the one I restored it to, mentions nothing of gender; it rather speaks of sexual attraction to both sexes (male and female). Gender (man and woman, or any other optional name) is not necessarily the same thing as one's biological sex. Transgender is a perfect example of this. BiAnBi's version of the lead is what I believe to be too similar to pansexuality. Bisexuality and pansexuality are not necessarily the same thing, which is why we have two different articles for both.

Since the version of the lead I have restored it to has been this way for the longest now, I feel that this change should be discussed first. Flyer22 (talk) 14:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So sorry, am only an occasional contributor so only just saw this. Not wishing to hurt anyone's feelings but I usually avoid this article since IMHO it is a total mess. It is so very large and primarily but a place where culture wars and biphobic and homophobic fights are carried out, line by line and word by word - combined with a heavy mishmash of "vanity" additions, which are only occasional noticed.

I also think that in addition to the general biphobia/homophobia that informs this article, even thought the editors valiantly fight against it, the other problem is that there are two meanings of "Bisexual" at war with each other here. One is a scientific one, having to do with things like flowers. The other having to do with an English-language word sometimes used to describe people who are not 100% homosexual and not 100% heterosexual.

Over the years this second, slang-version if you will, has "drifted".

It used to be that ALL people who were somewhere in the middle of the Kinsey Scale were called bisexual because there were no other English-language words to use. Now as things become increasingly better in Western Europe/USA for LGBT people of all varieties, there have developed different "flavors" of bisexual people. Strictly speaking, saying that ALL bisexual people are only attracted to two genders and especially in some sort of 50/50 way was NEVER correct. That only describes one way on being a bisexual person. Now people are beginning to find ways of expressing these variation within the larger bisexual community by borrowing more words from science such as pansexual or omnisexual and coining new ones like fluid, hetroflexible/homoflexible and all that. That was all I wanted to express somehow. BiAndBi (talk) 03:40, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]