Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CyanogenMod

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. I'm invoking WP:IAR to close this discussion early. It is obvious this is being canvassed off-site; it is therefore necessary to archive this AfD and re-nominate after a while since it will be impossible to form a fair consensus at this point. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:31, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CyanogenMod

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I'm fixing this broken nom with keep votes and no nomination statement! The article was AfD tagged by anon - 68.189.104.172 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) with a a statement on the article talk page -"An article about a minor modification of a minor mobile operating system is in no way notable." I'm not expressing any opinion myself -SpacemanSpiff^{Calvin‡Hobbes} 04:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete It's not like this is the iPhone. It's just yet another Apple ripoff like Windows and Linux. -68.189.104.172 (talk) 04:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You clearly don't have any knowledge about mobile operating systems. Even though Android is not as "famous" as the iPhone, it's yet more powerful, modular and OPEN SOURCE. Please stop trying to delete an very good article just because you are an Apple/Microsoft fanboy. Velazcod 00:21, 11 September 2009 (EST)

Excellent use of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Well done. Also, Linux is a ripoff of Apple? I will not dignify that comment with a discussion. --Eris Siva (talk) 04:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The author probably still won't understand what you and I are just laughing about. Velazcod 00:24, 11 September 2009 (EST)

Keep Clearly those asking for delete or speedy delete do not understand what is going on here. I've developed OS platforms for mobile for 10 years - this is not some Wannabe phone OS. CyanogenMod's ROM's are a clear "real world" use of the Android Open Source drops from Google. This isn't Google giving out tidbits that can't be built into a real OS, what he gets from the Google codebase allows him to build a functional mobile OS. This is quite breathtaking considering it DOES not happen on other OS's (WinMo, iPhone OS, etc). If you delete this you may as well delete pages referenced to all the variants in the Linux Distribution page. You can be sure what he is doing is being tracked by Google and Android licensees - he has addressed some very key areas of the Google Android OS in his work --75.4.247.55 (talk) 05:05, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The thought of deleting Cyanogen's Wiki page is absolutely crazy. Not only does he deserve the "honor" of having a page dedicated to him and his mods (he's managed to pull off what untold numbers of Google Developer's can't, or won't), people searching for information regarding (Cyanogen)mods for their Android phone deserve reputable information. I thought Wikipedia was a source for that. Enough said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.142.97.152 (talk) 04:09, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Cyanogen and this mod have been taking huge steps forward in developing for mobile platforms - both for Android-specific devices, and for the Linux kernel in general. The article is well-fleshed, informative, and a source of important information for future users. Currently growing in popularity and usage, and mentioned in many media outlets, CyanogenMod is already notable and groundbreaking. "Leaking" a usable Donut operating release, the inclusion of the developing BFS, and its bleeding-edge mentality are all turning heads...from the general public and developers alike. --Eris Siva (talk) 03:38, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

With the invaluable contribution, dedication and hard work by Cyanogen, the Android OS is greatly enhanced. As a end user, I have grown to enjoy my G1 and My Touch 3G devices even more with the work done by Cyanogen. I would recommend everyone to use his build and modifications on their Android based devices. Please leave the article on here for others to learn about and someday benefit from.

Keep To repeat my message from the discussion page: CyanogenMod represents a major development in the entire mobile space. It moves rapidly, far more rapidly than any casrrier pushes out updates to their phones, and is on the cutting edge of innovation with features like BFS, a scheduler released about two weeks before its inclusion into the OS. This is an enthusiastic, growing community headed by an enthusiastic developer, and is certainly one of the many developments the Android team was hoping to inspire. That CyanogenMod can exist and succeed like it does is, alone, justification for Android's existence to many, and is a major draw for the platform. Klondike (talk) 03:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Klondike, your arguments are WP:LIKE and WP:USEFUL. CM has no coverage from reliable secondary sources other than a brief mention in a lifehacker article. This is a clear delete. Jamougha (talk) 03:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify, Engadget, TechNews, and other development websites have also covered Cyanogen's achievements - and specifically this mod. --Eris Siva (talk) 03:56, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Links? The page you linked to does not mention cyanogenmod. It doesn't link to cyanogenmod. Jamougha (talk) 04:02, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Engadget did not credit CyanogenMod for the pictures, the "Read" links link to CyanogenMod forums on Xda, for TechCrunch, see Crunchgear —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.42.19.233 (talk) 04:15, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The read link does not link to 'cyanogenmod forums'; there is no such thing. It links to a post by cyanogen about an early build of donut. This is not cyanogenmod; donut is only being incorporated wholesale into cyanogenmod in the current experimental branch. The second link you posted links to the same post. I think you've demonstrated my point. Jamougha (talk) 04:24, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Crunchgear. Correct - that entire article is about the Donut release of CyanogenMod, and links at the bottom of the article. There are numerous corrections in the comments. --Eris Siva (talk) 04:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The CyanogenMod ROM is more akin to a distribution of Android (as Debian, Red Hat, or Ubuntu for Linux). There is a distinct userbase, a devoted group of testers, and significant customization beyond the Android Open Source Project releases. The releases include community driven development, merging of new technologies, and popular selection of material for inclusion. Beyond BFS (mentioned above), CyanogenMod has featured the Advanced Launcher, kernel support for tethering, cgroups, swap, compcache, inclusion of the 2.6.29 Linux kernel, filesystem changes, initialization modifications, and numerous other unique features not present in other distributions/releases of Android. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.42.19.233 (talk) 03:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep CyanogenMod is one of, if not the strongest force in open mobile-os development and Android optimization specifically. The subject is notable and reliable sources are on the rise. Having said that, the article currently reads like an advertisement and should be edited to comply with NPOV guidelines. Monban (talk) 03:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep CyanogenMod is noteworthy in my opinion. It is the Ubuntu of Mobile Linux (Android) right now. Mobile Linux is newsworthy. A distribution of a noteworthy Operating System should likely be noteworthy. We don't need a giant article, but something brief and appropriate would fit nicely here. -vessenes

Keep Wikipedia is not paper. CM is as notable as many of the topics on here. At the very least it could be merged into the main android page. --Ryan Gardner (talk) 03:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep If anyone deserves a wiki, CM does! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.93.168.59 (talk) 04:00, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep CyanongenMod offers a drastic improvement to the basic myTouch Android phone offered by T-Mobile. It should be on Wikipedia. -Snafilter (talk) 11 September 2009

Keep This is the sort of experimental community driven uber-geekitude that Android was intended for, as I understand it. As long as there is Android there will be independent builds, and the ones as great as Cyanogen's will hav any deleted wiki pages simply recreated I'm sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4hed517 (talk • contribs) 04:04, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep CyanogenMod is in many user opinions the best mod to Android available. I believe it merits a wikipedia page. -urbanrock —Preceding undated comment added 04:07, 11 September 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Keep - CM made my already good phone much more usable. The ROM is much better than the stock ROM my phone came with.

Keep I would hardly call Android a "minor" OS, as its market share is at least 7%, topping Palm OS, RIM OS, and Windows Mobile. Cyanogen is also rising in search volume, according to Google Trends. I agree with the sentiment that it is a distro, but also assert that it may be a derivative altogether now, as it has diverged heavily from Android trunk or any stable, official release from T-Mobile. I believe CyanogenMod was the first mobile phone OS to use the Brain Fuck Scheduler, and has also brought Donut to the edge crowd. Its growth is exponential, and at this rate would reach 10K Twitter followers by the end of the month. Assuredly, only a medium percentage of CM users are also Twitter users. Cyanogen was asked to provide download statistics, hopefully he'll respond soon. 96.235.22.36 (talk) 04:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Cyanogen makes the G1 a usable, GOOD phone. There are topics far less notable with WP pages. The page needs work, yes, but it's brand new. Give it a chance to improve before killing it. Joshuas88 (talk) 04:15, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Please keep this. I wouldn't have found this software without wikipedia. I hope other people can too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.65.127 (talk) 04:35, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - CyanogenMod - where the Android shines!aleksys (talk) 08:04, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Cyanogen is what makes G1 useable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LinkinX (talk • contribs) 04:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.