Talk:Java/to do

THIS PAGE IS VERY BADLY WRITTEN and takes no account of the huge influx of people from other parts of Indonesia to settle in Java's cities, especially Jakarta: it is overly simplistic on the question of native ethnicities and almost completely ignores a significant Chinese Indonesian minority. Indonesian is the first language for most of the younger generation in Java, with the local languages becoming second languages, most people operate in Indonesian every day. Try getting someone who actually lives here to update this page. I'd like to but I don't have time right now. Javanese people do not dominate Indonesia and they are just another ethnic group in Jakarta, like everyone else. The largest group here is Betawi, which is a mix of all the people who have moved to this area in the last 482 years since Jakarta was founded by the Dutch. At times in History the Sumaterans have also ruled over Java so to say the Javanese are dominant is simply not correct. Do your homework.

A general one: expand each section (except maybe History). Sure, this should be a summary article, but currently, it is not much more than a list. Particularly demographics, language, and admin divisions.--Merbabu 08:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Copy edit History Section - does it give balanced attention to all areas? --Merbabu 08:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Expand history - consider a History of Java article to allow more detail

Comment: although i agree in principal, the History section is probably the best section in the whole article. Can i suggest it is a lower priority for more detail? Although, of course we have to assess the quality, refs, etc. --Merbabu 08:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lead - needs to be expanded see WP:LEAD
References - lack of references for current information, remember to include references for all new material.

Volcanism should be expanded to explain the significance of the presence (fertile soils, eruptions and effect on local beliefs and practtices) - there was one theory that Java might have been a number of island while they were in their infancy! (ie before their outpourings filled in around them) .SatuSuro 10:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dry regions - just because parts of java a very wet - Gunung Kidul is a rainshadow area - so a single "climate" description is false - same as the north east side of Gunung Agung in Bali SatuSuro 10:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Changing coastline - massive erosion due to over exploitation leading to deltas and associated phenomena SatuSuro 10:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]