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Voice your opinion on this candidate (talk page) (3/6/9); Scheduled to end 04:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Nomination

Leonard^Bloom (talk · contribs) – RfAs seem to draw a lot of the same crowd, of which many I am not familiar. This is, I hope, not out of some defect on my part, but merely a cruel twist of fate: in the moment in which I wish to show I can help the encyclopedia a bit more with a mop, my hands lie in those who I never really got to know. Hell, I don't get to know a lot of you wonderful editors 'round en.wiki. I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve, to quote a good friend of mine. As my userpage proudly proclaims, I am a gnomish fellow. You may see me formatting the references on articles changing them from plain URLs to the appropriate citation template, or adding descriptions to images that were uploaded with them (a new found pleasure) or even assorted XfDs when I feel like rearing my ugly head. I have a long history of vandalism reversion, with twinkle and rollback in the begininng, and now I use Huggle. I also have a large number of CSDs under my belt (and, as my last RfA showed, some mistakes as well; these have been remedied for the most part). New page patrol (for articles; recently I've started patrolling images as well) is something I profoundly enjoy doing, and not just for the masochist in me who loves to read a thousand articles on the gay student who's really bad at runescape and then sadistically cherish the moment when I tag it to be deleted; I format references, add tags, add an image or two occasionally, and sometimes expand the article with actual content. That's not to say that I'm not without content building experience (I hear you ladies and gents go batty for that sort of thing), but I will be the first to admit it is not my love. This is all a lot of chit-chat, just to give a simple description of the user in question for the audience, and some are probably wondering even now why a gnome in all regards but physical would want the mop and robe. The answer is fairly simple, I think. I honestly and strongly believe that I can improve the encyclopedia just a tad bit more than usual if I had the tools. That's it; that's all. Have a nice evening. Your humble servant, Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 04:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?
A: With my experience in New Page patrol, I hope to be useful in deleting articles that are obviously violations of WP:CSD. With my experience in vandalism, I would like to be able to help out in times of high vandalism: protect pages or block/ban IPs/users. Another place I hope to help out in is WP:BL and CAT:AB, where help is needed. A very specific interest of mine is in the requests for renamed media, an area I dare say I've found myself stricken with a need to help there. It's a niche, and I wish to fill it. New image patrol is also an interest, but something I've only recently gotten into and lack a large amount of experience in.
2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
A: That depends on who you ask. To those who value article and content creation, it may be getting Big Stick ideology to GA or creating short stuff like Frederic Porter Vinton and Michael Ashley (astronomer). To my homies on huggle, it may be the long hours spent reverting vandalism and reporting users/IPs. To those watching the new stuff, than maybe it's the CSDs, or maybe it's the small stuff, like talk page templates, formatting references, wikifying, or tagging articles. My favorite contributions are the things that personally make me happy, like adding geographic coordinates to articles and images, or formatting ref, or adding the information for lost and unloved images, or tracking down the contact information for people to get their images for a short, low-quality biography or a ship. That names a few out of many things I love to look back upon. (Observant observers will note that these are all really recent edits for the most part. Besides the fact that I went on a really fun editing spree last night, my browser is also being funky, so I'm trying not to have to load too many things; my contributions are thus very untapped.) My contributions really are all over the place. I wish you a joyous roller coaster ride if you dig through my contribs diligently.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A: Yes and no, which is a horrible answer I regret having to give. However, it is true. As my initial description pounds in, I am a gnomish editor; it's in my blood. That means, at least for me, that I don't fall into disputes often because I don't really do things that make disputes. More often than not, I hope I'm fixing something. However, I'm not a complete and total hermit, and I have been in a dispute or two. The dispute that comes to mind when I think stressful is the problems I saw over Deford, Michigan and Cass City High School. One user (who was later blocked for edit warring and a sock) kept adding information that was proven incorrect. I am human sadly so emotions come easily. I found myself a bit put off by her actions, but I like to think I kept my cool and acted accordingly. I appoached the matter with a calm head, and, at least in my head, came up with a way of apporaching similar disagreements. Because the disagreement was primarily on the matter of the reliability of the information in the article and the relative sources, I have seen a very effective method for dealing with this, used by User:Toddst1. In summary, it would be to remove the sections being questioned or under dispute to the talk page, and discuss it. Unless I'm really out of the loop (which is a possibility) and this method is actually described in more detail at WP:Official method for dealing with disputes revolving around the accuracy of articles, I think this is a nice variant of the other methods I have seen used before my time. In general, I'm going to rattle off a cliche, and say that I hope to be able to approach disputes with a calm head and common sense. I think I have proved to be a calm, respectful person in the past, and I don't see why wearing a robe would change this.
Additional optional question from Tedder
4. Your contribs have been very intermittent. Why is this, and do you think that should influence !votes for your adminship?
A: They were intermittent because, at the time, school ate up a decent chunk of my time. I do not think it should be a heavy influence, particularly because such a gap as that will not happen again. With changes in the real world, such as scheduling alterations and a lighter load to name a few, I will be able to dedicate much more to Wikipedia. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 06:17, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


General comments


Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/Leonard^Bloom before commenting.

Discussion

User:Neurolysis/Counters.js

Support
  1. I'm going to support this. Yes, he's made mistakes in CSD, but I believe that he is capable of learning from this. He's obviously dedicated to the project, although I'm disgruntled by the vandalism brought up in the first RfA (one year ago). I think he can be trusted with the bit. Does work in AfD, AIV, CSD, RCP, and article building, he's also polite, and I've had good interactions with him, etc. All of this, leads me to at least a Moral Support, despite the mistakes - Kingpin13 (talk) 09:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  2. I don't think that a few mistakes are enough to make me say oppose. We have all made mistakes and we all will learn from them. I would think that he would be a bit more cautious about when to delete and when to keep when using the bit, but overall he seems to be a good editor. Just as a side note, reading through the discussion down in the neutral section I think we are seeing a very diplomatic person willing to work through conflict and cooperate with other editors. This just solidifies my support.--Gordonrox24 | Talk 14:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  3. I'm supporting mainly per the reason that the candidate is an experienced user that has made a few mistakes, but most importantly owns up to them. Admins are not supposed to be perfect; if they were, a passed RFA would only happen once in a blue moon. I would trust Leo as an admin, just in the hope that he is more careful with the "delete" button when working with CSDs. Meetare Shappy Cunkelfratz! 14:56, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
  1. Sorry. Per your CSD tagging, which you indentify as one of the areas you intend to work in. Some examples: A7's with indication of importance ([1] [2], [3]); A1 with context ([4]); A1 on a (malformed) redirect 1 minute after creation ([5]). Some of those were tagged only 1 or 2 minutes after creation, which in my opinion shouldn't be done unless the article is an attack page, copyvio or blatant vandalism. I suggest you read this essay and see what you can learn from it. Jafeluv (talk) 08:06, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for taking the time to find those, and thanks especially for the essay. I will strongly consider it next time I new page patrol. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 08:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Not ready yet, but looking forward to next time per Jafeluv Please remember that to qualify for speedy deletion under A7, a subject should make no claim to any significance. It might be helpful to take a few minutes to search for notability, context, and sourcing for a subject before tagging for deletion. One of my favorite examples of having done so is Eunice (genus). At first, I thought it was a cleverly veiled attack. By the time I was done, I had a nice stub. New editors don't always do a good job of creating a new article and need the help of the more experienced users. Dlohcierekim 14:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Oppose Sorry, I have only to read the nomination statement to know that I don't want to have to read any more communications written in that style. Looie496 (talk) 15:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Oppose—I have to agree with Looei: it's not the dignified, focused style I want to see in an application for promotion: far too informal and discursive in a way that suggests the candidate is unprepared for the responsibilities. Sorry. I'd like to see more content editing, and perhaps a learning curve for technical activities such as WP:NFC as an introduction to the potential to serve the project in an administrative capacity. Tony (talk) 16:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Oppose - I agree with the previous two statements. Writing an encyclopedia is serious business, and being an admin even more so. Based on your writing, I do not have confidence that you would take the admin job seriously. Sorry.--ThaddeusB (talk) 17:33, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Oppose per the three above me. Sorry, but to be frank I didn't feel the need to go past "To my homies on huggle" in your statement. While we're here, in light of your talk about "adding appropriate descriptions to images", care to explain what was going on here? – iridescent 17:40, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Images for that article were some of the first I ever uploaded. The descriptions were of lower quality, and I seem to have thought at the time that the descriptions follow images or some such like that, or else why would I be talking to myself, "same as last time". I have plenty of other instances of descriptions added accurately and in more detail. That was almost a year ago. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 17:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral
  1. Leaning to support. I like a lot of it, but I have concerns on your speedy tags. [6][7][8][9]. The last one in particular was a little odd as it was clearly a redirect. Flip side is lots of good stuff, GA, AIV, pleasent demeanour. I'll revisit this RFA. Pedro :  Chat  07:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the kind words. As for those CSD tags, well, I really can't say anything else besides that they were mistakes, but they are few and far between, and as time goes on, even more so. I almost always try and make known that I do have mistakes, and I like to think that I'll usually be the first person to admit I have made one. As for that last one, the redirect? If I recall correctly, I've cited that one as a mistake before, but it's something I should of seen. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 07:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    This is the same problem as Pedro's diff number four and it was done earlier today. This concerns me because if you're that quick to fire off the tag button, will you be that quick to delete something? Incorrect taggings are easily fixed, incorrect deletions might never be noticed. -t'shaelchat 08:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, that one was a problem with Twinkle, Leonard tagged it at the same time as I moved it, and as most of us manual new page patrollers know, Twinkle isn't very good at catching edit conflicts. He did then tag the article which I had moved it to, as it was here, and you could argue that that's okay under WP:NOTINHERITED (although that is only an essay, and it is designed for WP:XfD rather then WP:CSD. - Kingpin13 (talk) 08:42, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you Kingpin. I was rather voraciously looking through my contribs to piece together what had happened; I didn't believe that I had made such a mistake today. In general though, I would like to say this: my answer as to what I would use the tools for initially. Obvious violation, clarification being that I would only intend to delete G3s and G10s; I specified this in my answer because I do make mistakes. I wish to emphasize this, because I did not make it as clear as I could in my answer: vandalism and new page patrol are not the main reason. Frankly, the backlog seen in these two parts of Wikipedia isn't as back as, say, most anything at WP:BC or CAT:AB. I note experience in vandalism, and in new page patrol, as these are important qualities in an admin. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 08:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Fair enough, I've had trouble with Twinkle in the past and can believe that this was a tool error. However, Pedro's diffs are still concerning. Don't get me wrong, though, I see a lot of good stuff, too. Still haven't really made up my mind as to support or oppose, but I appreciate your time to clarify, Leonard. -t'shaelchat 08:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    It can only benefit me (and/or the encyclopedia, depending on how you see things) to clarify things, and I wish to be of as much help as possible. However, at the moment, I'm going to bed. You're welcome for the clarification. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 08:56, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Liking what I see, but when the first thing I check, File:Volga-937-1.jpg, doesn't have OTRS permission (which I'd expect an admin to know) ... I get a little wary. Apologies, —Ed (TalkContribs) 07:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    I have no excuse for this. Thank you for notifying me of this, and I will contact an OTRS member as soon as possible, to verify the fwd'd permission. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 07:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! :) Side note: it may be a good idea to crop out the odd red border. —Ed (TalkContribs) 07:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Being a little trigger happy raises concern. If there is concern with frivolous tagging then unnecessary blocks might follow. Read the article first, then decide. –BuickCenturyDriver 08:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Leaning to support. Will check back later. Aditya α ß 15:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Not sure what's up with your nom statement, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. –Juliancolton | Talk 17:49, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Neutral Julian took the words out of my mouth, though the bad taste is still there. Pastor Theo (talk) 18:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Neutral. I can't quite put my finger on it, but the statement doesn't sit well with me. Because I can't be more specific, I'm neutral until I can figure out exactly what about it is bothering me. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Neutral. per all the above. While Leonard^Bloom has clearly done some good work for the project, the issues with CSD tagging and the nom statement are making me a bit edgy about supporting. Yet, I have seen this user around WP:AFC and this user's work for that project. I know that Leonard^Bloom would make a good sysop with a little more experience so I !vote neutral for now. -FASTILY (TALK) 20:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  9. I don't have a problem with your comments in the nomination statement (because after our interactions I know you to be a mature and intelligent person), but your mis-taggings are a little worrying. Work on those, and on your demeanor a bit, and I believe a future request would most definitely be successful. Malinaccier P. (talk) 20:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]