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Replaced

Replaced redirect with "socratic method" section from Socrates, a significatnly expanded and more on-topic version of what was once here before ALoan merged it with Socrates. more work and reorganization will be forthcoming. Heah 21:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Replaced and Increased content within HR, Training & Development and Lesson Planning for teachers:

HR & T&D: Increased readability of existing material Elaborated on the method itself, in terms of delivery and contextualised it with other methods of learning (case study).

Lesson Plan Elements: Added 'Planning' within lesson planning, Tidied up sentences, Clarified sentence a bit about 'discussions'.

Still more to do in this piece..... Metazeitgeist (talk) 15:29, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Founder

The "founder" section reads like it belongs in the Simple English Wikipedia. It should be rewritten or removed. (Why not just link to Socrates?)

I think it should be removed. Socrates is already linked to; although some explication of Socrates' character may lead to a greater understanding of the method, that paragraph fails to convey anything relevant to the method and isn't exactly accurate. --Heah (talk) 10:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I second the motion for removal. Objections? --Harlequence (talk) 20:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing as how Maieutics is a part of the Socratic Method, I added a link to its page.--The Individual 03:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merger

since the Socratic method is also known as the "method of elenchos" and i can't seem to see the difference between the two, i've added a merger tag. thoughts? -- talk 01:56, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. WAS 4.250 04:35, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

cool, thanks. maybe we should have the "dialogues" discussion here to see what others think? --Heah talk 04:49, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, its been a while since this merger happened, so it is a little late to (humbly) object, but a few points. The Socratic Method has in effect two meanings: the method Socrates employed in Plato's dialogues and a modern method of education named after this method. This article is predominantly about the latter and is somewhat incongruous with the article I wrote on the elenchus. Furthermore, the text from elenchos was fairly arbitrarily placed, between text that contradicts it. E.g. -
"The exact nature of the elenchos is subject to a great deal of debate, in particular concerning whether it is a positive method, leading to knowledge, or a negative method used solely to refute false claims to knowledge.
The Socratic method is a negative method of hypotheses elimination ..."
I think this was less than perfectly conceived - surely, at least, the merger should have taken place only when 'Socratic Method' was prepared to take it consistently. The result is very messy, a patchwork of very different ideas, and I find it hard to see how it could be edited successfully without a major overhaul. I realise that it is somewhat awkward splitting them into two again now (and perhaps this would not be a good idea anyway) but I suppose a solution would be to break the article into two sections reflecting the two meanings of 'Socratic Method', one on the issue in Greek philosophy and the other on the modern pedagogical method. (Sorry, I know this is more critical than constructive, but I had to let of steam). Dast 10:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Remove?

The link the "Soctatic Method Society" points to a yahoo group which has not had any activity in two months. Searching for "Socratic Method Society" returned no other relevant hits. I believe the link should be removed. Agree?

Ironic Citation Needed alert

The teacher and student are willing to accept any correctly-reasoned answer. That is, the reasoning process must be considered more important than pre-conceived facts or beliefs.[citation needed] Cosmo7 (talk)

Should Socratic questioning be merged into here? It doesn't seem like it needs its own article, but I'm no expert. Dreamyshade (talk) 08:45, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Silly loops

Socratic irony redirects to irony, which in the opening blurb, says that it refers to the Socratic method. So now, nowhere on Wikipedia is there any mention of that Socratic irony actually is. -- LightSpectra (talk) 21:46, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now Socratic irony redirects here. This doesn't help at all, because this article doesn't even mention it. --Cadwaladr (talk) 16:04, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]