Talk:Extended Copy Protection

Please make sure you are writing from the Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view. Comments such as "after their customer service representative grills you as to the reasons you are uninstalling it" and "defeating the purpose of having copy protection in the first place" are clearly a biased interpretation.

Also, if you are going to make broad claims such as "It has come under much criticism", "this software has been termed a root kit by technical experts", or "which they rarely do if the CD is opened", please provide more solid evidence for your claims. A single article by Mark Russinovich IMO is not sufficient evidence to claim the software is a "root kit" as determined by "technical experts", and the F-Secure report specifically states "the software isn't itself malicious".

Yes, you may think DRM is evil and Sony are the devil, but it's important for this article to remain neutral.

--203.45.114.193 14:40, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The less than neutral parts of the article have now been edited, Not that I am the origional author nor an apologist for Sony.

However your other points regarding the characterision of this product have been left as there is quite a lot of evidence that it does use rootkit-like technology; and rather poorly at that given the security issues this software generates on users PC.

Mark Russinovich is widely respected expert in his field and many respect his analysis of this software. I have no reason to doubt this at the moment.

It may be that this software is relativly benign; and further analysis will show that in due course.

However any software which uses the rootkit-like evasion and hiding techniques must remain suspect; and with potentially dangerious security holes it cannot be taken at face value.

SimonZerafa 16:40, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Warden

Is there any reason to mention XCP's connection with World of Warcraft cheating? -- Myria 06:55, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the Vivian Green album is not in the EFF list ...

However, see here.

Could someone who actually has this album check?

70.231.128.95 01:32, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV info on albums

I've tried to include as npov a blurb on each of the album pages as possible. Here is the text I've pasted:

In November 2005, it was revealed that Sony was distributing albums with Extended Copy Protection, a controversial feature that automatically installed rootkit software on any Microsoft Windows machine upon insertion of the disc. In addition to preventing the CDs contents from being copied, it was also revealed that the software reported the users' listening habits back to Sony and also exposed the computer to malicious attacks that exploited insecure features of the rootkit software. Though Sony refused to release a list of the affected CDs, the Electronic Frontier Foundation identified The Invisible Invasion as one of the discs with the invasive software.

I added this along with a link to the eff article.

Are You Affected By Sony-BMG's Rootkit? (November 9, 2005) from Electronic Frontier Foundation

Please let me know if you have any other suggestions. It is important that the tone of these blurbs remains NPOV and as unaccusative as possible, while still informing consumers as to actual risks. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 20:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]