Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ron Obvious (Monty Python character)

Ron Obvious (Monty Python character)

I don't think that this article is notable, or that the sketch is any more remarkable than the hundreds of others. PROD removed without rationale. ╟─Treasury Tag►contribs─╢ 11:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The nomination says "I don't think" but this is contrary to the proper deliberation required by our deletion policy. By following this policy, I was soon able to find a reliable source for this character which demonstrates notability. More is required but this is just normal improvement per our editing policy. Colonel Warden (talk) 12:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Much as I hate to say "as per"...as per Colonel Warden. While not perfect, it can certainly be improved to a reasonable status, maybe even GA if enough effort is put in. Cheers. I'^mperator 13:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
For the moment, rename to Ron Obvious (Monty Python). Precedent is that Monty Python stuff is named for the sketch, not the character; cf Category:Monty Python sketches. To cut down on repetition I'd ask the nominator if he wouldn't mind withdrawing his individual Monty Python nominations and, if he feels there might be a consensus for deletion, discuss what to do with the whole category in a single, coherent AfD/XfD.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 14:33, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was planning to do a combined AfD, actually, but a previous one (WP:Articles for deletion/Several Monty Python sketches if memory serves) had several users asking for individual nominations, so I went for that approach instead. ╟─Treasury Tag►contribs─╢ 16:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not notable. No assertion of notability. No external sources. LK (talk) 17:50, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article cites the Monty Python encyclopedia which is an external source which establishes notability. Colonel Warden (talk) 18:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This article has no sources which demonstrate notability, nor any content which gives us any reason that this character/sketch is important enough for an article. Looking at our fiction guidelines, delete is the appropriate choice. JRP (talk) 18:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Outright deletion isn't really an option. There's established consensus that plausible search terms should not be redlinks, and Monty Python sketches are certainly plausible search terms; so redirect is the most extreme outcome consistent with convention; see also WP:ATD.—I've got a lot more to say about this, because I think the notability policy is yet again being fundamentally misapplied here. But that's properly the subject of a userspace essay rather than a reply here; I'll work on that essay tonight. For the moment, suffice it to say, merge to List of Monty Python Sketches.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 18:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]