Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Image workshop/Archive/Mar 2009
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Korea barnstar

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Composite of images found on User:PC78/notes
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Finished product (so far)
Article(s): WikiProject Korea
Request: Currently there is no barnstar or other award for Korea-related topics, so I would like to request a suitable image. The only stipulation I have is that it in some way incorporates the sam-taeguk symbol (shown above). All other considerations, such as whether or not it uses the original barnstar image, I leave at the discretion of whoever takes up this request, so feel free to go nuts! Thanks in advance. :) PC78 (talk) 15:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Graphist opinion: 'Kay, here's a Composite of stuff found on User:PC78/notes' page. I am an Inkscape begginer, of course, but I hope this looks O.K. Resident Mario (talk) 20:49, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ths is sutibale for a hanging medal. Resident Mario (talk) 19:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: The bird is quite hard to see red on red... Mangwanani (talk) 20:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hope you like it. Maybe the ribbon should be wider? Hard to see? Give me a moment Resident Mario (talk) 20:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Done Resident Mario (talk) 21:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Cheers! Not quite what I was after, but I'm sure we can make use of it. Thanks for your efforts (and sorry for the late reply, I've been a bit sidetracked with other stuff). PC78 (talk) 20:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- thank you Resident Mario (talk) 19:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Done Resident Mario (talk) 21:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Baku Olympic bid logo

Article(s): 2016 Summer Olympics, 2016 Summer Olympics bids and Baku 2016 Olympic bid.
Request: SVGify and upload as "File:Baku 2016 Summer Olympics bid logo.svg" -- Felipe C.S ( talk ) 15:08, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Graphist opinion:
Fetus

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Fetus about to be aborted
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SVG
Article(s): Abortion
Request: Hello. I made this image from two other images, as indicated at this image's description page. Obviously, I'm not very good at it. :) The color image was made by Andrew c, who may or may not want to help out with this request. If you all can fix this image up, then it may or may not go into the article, seeing as how there has been some disagreement about whether the Abortion article should show what is aborted. (FYI, the fetus at this stage is 1.25 inches from head to rump, so you may want to make it a bit bigger in relation to the rest of the image.) The two horizontal lines should be removed. The thing extending from the belly is the umbilical cord, and it should terminate at the surrounding surface. Incidentally, the white thing at the bottom right corner is a suction tube.
I should prbably mention that the originally-uploaded fetus image from 29 August 2007 had more kilobytes, and was pink-colored.[1] It also had a slight spot in the eye that has been correctly removed, and the lettering has also been correctly removed (however, I'm not so sure that the color should have been removed, but people objected saying it was too cute).Ferrylodge (talk) 20:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Graphist opinion:
- I cannot help with this specific image request because my image is vector and your image is raster. Since mine is a diagram, there is no sense in converting it to raster. Perhaps someone could create an SVG image of a fetus/embryo? I'd recommend using another source image though, if someone is to make one from scratch, as concerns have been raised about File:10 weeks pregnant.png. Anyway, I added details to the embryo in my image per your request (see the two different version in the file history of File:Vacuum-aspiration.svg). I'm sorry that wasn't good enough. These images are related to a very long, ongoing discussion at Talk:Abortion, which means even if an image is created here, there may not be consensus for it's inclusion in that article (something to keep in mind). That said, perhaps having SVG images of various stages of fetal development (4 week, 8 week, 12 week, etc) may be quite helpful to the project as a whole, outside of the image discussions related to the abortion article.-Andrew c [talk] 21:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Also, we have commons:Category:Anatomical plates and drawings of the pregnancy by User:Miraceti which really could use some jazzing up.-Andrew c [talk] 21:49, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Just so others are aware (Andrew c is already aware), when I click on File:Vacuum-aspiration.svg I do not see any fetus. My monitor is a Dell, and seems to work fine for everything else. Even if Andrew c's fetus were visible on all monitors, I still would like an enlargement at the abortion article, and I'm sure that the image I've submitted here must be more detailed than that of Andrew c. So, my request still stands, and I would be grateful for the assistance.Ferrylodge (talk) 21:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Basically a zoom of the SVG you used and converted to raster. I darkened the fetus by about 10% for a bit more contrast (could a graphist help with the crop, I can never get InkScape to do that correctly). I can't do much with creating a new image from scratch, if this isn't what you want/need I'll happily tag it for deletion and I'm sure one of our talented will whip something up. Hope the issues are resolved and that this helps. §hep • Talk 22:00, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, Shep, that's definitely an improvement, as I can now actually see the fetus. However, the black-and-white image is much more accurate (e.g. a fetus at 8 weeks from fertilization has separate fingers, and has legs between the feet and body). But please don't delete your image just yet, since it may come in handy. Could one of your talented please whip something up using the black-and white fetus and/or the original color version thereof? Thanks. I'd prefer the original color version, and it seems that Andrew c would too, but there has been some controversy about whether color would be better than black and white.Ferrylodge (talk) 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- And I'll repeat what I said above, please use a different source image, if possible, perhaps drawing from life. File:9-Week_Human_Embryo_from_Ectopic_Pregnancy.jpg would be good, or you could use a combination of sources from the web as references as long as you make sure it is an original work, not a derivative work (if the source files are copyrighted). www.ehd.org has some really amazing images.-Andrew c [talk] 22:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Andrew c, I emphatically disagree. The image that you are suggesting is an embryo, not a fetus. Most induced abortions in this world involve a fetus and not an embryo. If you want us to use a real photo of a fetus, then I suppose we could use this one, but we do not have a precise age for it.
- And I'll repeat what I said above, please use a different source image, if possible, perhaps drawing from life. File:9-Week_Human_Embryo_from_Ectopic_Pregnancy.jpg would be good, or you could use a combination of sources from the web as references as long as you make sure it is an original work, not a derivative work (if the source files are copyrighted). www.ehd.org has some really amazing images.-Andrew c [talk] 22:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, Shep, that's definitely an improvement, as I can now actually see the fetus. However, the black-and-white image is much more accurate (e.g. a fetus at 8 weeks from fertilization has separate fingers, and has legs between the feet and body). But please don't delete your image just yet, since it may come in handy. Could one of your talented please whip something up using the black-and white fetus and/or the original color version thereof? Thanks. I'd prefer the original color version, and it seems that Andrew c would too, but there has been some controversy about whether color would be better than black and white.Ferrylodge (talk) 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Basically a zoom of the SVG you used and converted to raster. I darkened the fetus by about 10% for a bit more contrast (could a graphist help with the crop, I can never get InkScape to do that correctly). I can't do much with creating a new image from scratch, if this isn't what you want/need I'll happily tag it for deletion and I'm sure one of our talented will whip something up. Hope the issues are resolved and that this helps. §hep • Talk 22:00, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Just so others are aware (Andrew c is already aware), when I click on File:Vacuum-aspiration.svg I do not see any fetus. My monitor is a Dell, and seems to work fine for everything else. Even if Andrew c's fetus were visible on all monitors, I still would like an enlargement at the abortion article, and I'm sure that the image I've submitted here must be more detailed than that of Andrew c. So, my request still stands, and I would be grateful for the assistance.Ferrylodge (talk) 21:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Also, we have commons:Category:Anatomical plates and drawings of the pregnancy by User:Miraceti which really could use some jazzing up.-Andrew c [talk] 21:49, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- The image that I have requested goes well with your image, because it would look odd to have a drawing in combination with a photo. Moreover, the image I am requesting has been through the wringer, and has been accepted in multiple Wikipedia articles for years. Its description page provides detailed sources for verification of accuracy.
- Recently, I proposed to you having an image of both an embryo and a fetus, but I do not recall you being agreeable. I could still accept that type of solution (i.e. two different enlargements, one for an embryo and one for a fetus). But I cannot agree to your request to have only an embryo, because it would be misleading to Wikipedia readers.Ferrylodge (talk) 22:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- I wasn't saying for someone to superimpose a photo, I was asking for the graphist to make an SVG (aka digital drawing) using different source material than File:10 weeks pregnant.png. I'm not going to debate when an average abortion takes place with you here. I'd simply like for there to be good, SVG drawings of multiple stages of human development (outside of the context of abortion), and if someone is to do this, I'd recommend drawing from life. -Andrew c [talk] 22:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Look, my request here is specifically for the abortion article. If you would like to make a separate request here at the graphic lab, then please do so. And I already said that drawing from life would be fine with me, if this photo of a fetus is used, instead of a photo of an embryo. Another photo of a fetus (at 8 weeks) is here, and a drawing based on that would be fine too. However, I still think that it would be most efficient for the Graphic Lab to simply use the existing drawing that I provided, which matches up very well with the 8-week photo here.Ferrylodge (talk) 23:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- I wasn't saying for someone to superimpose a photo, I was asking for the graphist to make an SVG (aka digital drawing) using different source material than File:10 weeks pregnant.png. I'm not going to debate when an average abortion takes place with you here. I'd simply like for there to be good, SVG drawings of multiple stages of human development (outside of the context of abortion), and if someone is to do this, I'd recommend drawing from life. -Andrew c [talk] 22:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Recently, I proposed to you having an image of both an embryo and a fetus, but I do not recall you being agreeable. I could still accept that type of solution (i.e. two different enlargements, one for an embryo and one for a fetus). But I cannot agree to your request to have only an embryo, because it would be misleading to Wikipedia readers.Ferrylodge (talk) 22:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Your drawing is not in SVG format. My diagram is. Someone is going to have to convert something into SVG format. All I'm saying is that since someone is going to be converting something into SVG format (because you don't like my embryo), then there is better reference material. I didn't mean to hijack your request. I just figured if I voiced my opinion before an image was created, I'd have less reason to oppose further down the line as I could raise my concerns before hand. I'd be glad to back out of this discussion now. -Andrew c [talk] 23:16, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Whatever the brave folks at the Graphic Lab do, I hope the result will depict a fetus at 8 weeks (because depicting a later fetus could be just as misleading as depicting an embryo).Ferrylodge (talk) 23:22, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Not wanting to get involved in this little "discussion" too much (I don't even understand the problem!), I edited the file shep put up to reduce filesize and complexity. Just clipping doesn't remove the data, it just hides it, and makes it harder to edit, especially if you clip part by part. As long as the clipping path is on top, you can clip it all with one path - just select everything you want to clip and the clipping path, and it is all clipped by the same path. − Inductiveload (talk) 13:27, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Forgot to say - you don't need to clip to the page size - Wikimedia does that automatically. Anything that if off the "artboard" in Inkscape will be off the sides of the image. Inductiveload (talk) 13:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Whatever the brave folks at the Graphic Lab do, I hope the result will depict a fetus at 8 weeks (because depicting a later fetus could be just as misleading as depicting an embryo).Ferrylodge (talk) 23:22, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
(undent)Thanks for the comment, Inductiveload. I'm not sure if the Graphic Lab is still working on this project. Anyway, I made the image at right. If the Graphic Lab is still working on this project, there's no rush. The image at right seems better than both of the images above, for the reasons explained, but maybe the Graphic Lab can make further improvements?Ferrylodge (talk) 00:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Crystal Clear

Article(s): Crystal Clear icon theme
Request: Recreate the image as an SVG. Jacob Hnri 6 (talk) 02:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Graphist opinion: Are any of these used in articles? --gren グレン 03:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- The original source of these actually drew them in SVG and distributes them as PNG. You might be better of asking directly for the originals and if they'd allow us to use them here. − Inductiveload (talk) 13:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Resolved
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

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Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
Article(s): Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
Request: Any chance we can get a good crop and straightening of just the portrait from this scanned page. gren グレン 03:48, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Graphist opinion:
- A very good chance, I'd say. Is that OK? My photoshop skills aren't all that. − Inductiveload (talk) 18:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Very good, thank you... makes using it as his portrait much easier. gren グレン 02:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Fix streak

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A panorama of the island of Asinara
Article(s): Asinara
Request: This should be a quick one. Can you please erase the streak on the left-center side of the image? Thanks, ResMar 21:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Graphist opinion:Done. ■ MMXXtalk 11:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- OK, thank you very much! Currently on GAN and DYK nom. ResMar 01:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Rio de Janeiro 2016 Ferris wheel

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Rio de Janeiro 2016 Ferris wheel
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Rio de Janeiro 2016 Ferris wheel edit
Example:
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Original picture
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Noise edit
Article(s): Rio de Janeiro 2016 Olympic bid
Request: The picture needs noise reduction. Felipe C.S ( talk ) 18:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Graphist opinion: Done. Felipe C.S ( talk ) 23:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Solingen arson attack photo touch-up

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Scanned photo with red glare on one side
Article(s): Solingen arson attack of 1993
Request: Any way the red glare or whatever it is can be removed to create a better-looking photo? Thanks in advance! 79.64.251.192 (talk) 19:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Graphist opinion: Removed the glare and improved the contrast. How is it now? Mononomic (talk) 02:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- (Not requester) That looks really good! Would it be possible to un-blowout the sky? Or is it too far gone? §hep • Talk 02:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- Too far gone - I tried. Sorry. Mononomic (talk) 20:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- It is never too far gone to me:) The only unfortunate thing about my changes is that I had to remove the Antenna from the house, as I used the clone tool to clone the sky from different areas of the image. Let me know if this works for you. ZooFari 01:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Too far gone - I tried. Sorry. Mononomic (talk) 20:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Vancouver SkyTrain (very easy task to do, which can be handled in less than a minute. please just finish this :( )

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A map of the Vancouver SkyTrain.
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A map of the Vancouver SkyTrain with only the SkyTrain stations.
Article(s): SkyTrain (Vancouver), List of Vancouver SkyTrain stations
Request: If you look at the images, you'll see that Main Street-Science World has a transfer station on it. The station is a ordinary station, and is not a transfer station, so should be changed to a ordinary station. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 (spell my name backwards) at 05:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Graphist opinion: What do ordinary stations and transfer stations look like? Is the first map correct in appearance for all the skytrain stations? gringer (talk) 10:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- This section was probably deleted because I didn't realize I unwatched this page. Anyways, I hope I could still reply to this. Both maps have Main Street-Science World Station as a transfer station. It has a transfer station "thing" that looks like all the other terminals + Broadway and Commericial stations. Original stations are those ones that are like Granville, Nanaimo, and others. I just want the Main Street-Science World Station to have the station changed to an original station, like what it's supposed to be. This is for both the images. Thanks if anyone replys... -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 17:58, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Done. − Inductiveload (talk) 18:38, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for this. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 07:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done. − Inductiveload (talk) 18:38, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Is it resolved then? [|Retro00064 | (talk/contribs) |] 09:59, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it is. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 18:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Is it resolved then? [|Retro00064 | (talk/contribs) |] 09:59, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
USMC Insignia

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Tiny PNG insignia
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SVG(s) to work from
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Inner part of USMC logo, converted to white/black.
Article(s): United States Marine Corps, Eagle, Globe, and Anchor
Request: This should be a quick one: just a request for a black + transparent version of the USMC insignia (the "Eagle, Globe, and Anchor") which is currently a small PNG. The SVG logo above (or alternate versions linked from its file description page) should be a good head start. - Gump Stump (talk) 04:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Graphist opinion:
- Took the inner part of the SVG file and converted to white/black. gringer (talk) 05:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Brilliant, thank you. - Gump Stump (talk) 21:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)