Talk:Masonic Child Identification Programs

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Links to the various programs

I normally do not huge lists of links to every possible website that relates to an article topic... especially when it comes to articles on organizations and their programs ... but in this case I think we should. In part this article is a Public Service article... a place where people can go to find more information on a needed public service and where they can find out where the program will be run near their communities. Thus, I think we should list each and every jurisdiction that runs a CHIP program. That said... we can probably do so in an abreviated way... connecting the web site links to the name of the State... like this:

"Masonic Child ID Programs are currently running in New York, Missouri, California, Massachusetts,... etc. etc."

We should also probably include links to any similar programs even if they are not run by the Masons. Especially if a non-Masonic program is up and running in a state the Masons don't cover. The idea is to help families and save kids, after all, and not to pump Masonry. Blueboar 18:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A useful model would be articles for other charitable concerns, say, Oxfam. I don't see any problem with having both this (Masonic CHIP programs look a notable entity to me) and a broader article describing in less individual detail the general field of child recovery programs (AMBER Alert, Code Adam, etc).

Going with the Oxfam comparison, I don't think this article should list alternatives for states where there's no Masonic program. It'd be akin to listing alternative hunger charities in Oxfam#Oxfam Regional Websites for countries that don't have an Oxfam branch. It's not Wikipedia's job to be a public service directory (WP:NOT#DIR, and anyhow such information would be findable by going up a level to the more general child recovery article. Tearlach 18:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Valid point Blueboar 19:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kids ID

I thought this was a franchise, though MasoniChip claims it was started by Masons in CA, MN, and so forth. However, as CA now has a CHIP program that's not "Kids ID", I'm going to venture a guess that it was a franchise, and it was used until CHIP was developed, and thus I'm not going to use MasoniChip's information regarding it, because it may no longer be an officially used program. I have had no luck on the brochure as of yet. MSJapan 17:21, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For everyone?

I've read conspiracy theories that talk about expanding the chip to everyone on earth, a bit like vaccines. I'd bet there are plenty of criticisms and controversies already available for this. 69.157.229.153 (talk) 17:50, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That would make sense if this had something to do with computer chip implants, but it doesn't. Maybe if you had actually taken 30 seconds to read the article you would know what was actually involved in the process instead of just coming to a conclusion based on an acronym. MSJapan (talk) 19:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That has to be the most amusing post I have read in a while... chips for everyone! HA! Actually, the Grand Lodges should have known the tinfoil hat types would misinterpret this one when they created the acronym. Makes you wonder what other programs we could come up with that would spell out buzz words for the paranoid, or would make fun of people who see conspiracies where ever they look. Blueboar (talk) 23:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviation

Shouldn't it be ChIP? It's odd to uppercase a letter that doesn't begin a word... eh well. Tyciol (talk) 16:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No. Every CHIP program uses the same abbreviation, and it is CHIP in all caps. MSJapan (talk) 16:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regularity

Would I be correct to presume this is a program run by Regular Masonic jurisdictions of the England-descended variety rather than France's? I wouldn't guess they'd work together even on something good like this so it would be good to specify whose project it is. Tyciol (talk) 16:55, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that it's a US-based program, and in the US French descended Freemasonry is very minimal, I don't see a need for a clarification to be made at this point. Additionally, as the CHIP websites are part of Grand Lodge websites, it should be fairly obvious on further inquiry as to who is doing what. MSJapan (talk) 17:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]