User talk:Proscriptus

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Goertz and 507

Contrary to my first impression, I´m now convinced you´re willing to contribute good faith edits. Still, I´d ask you to back your claims up with sources. If Goertz was a count or not is a matter of legal circumstances (I´m not an expert on this); if his middle name was Zeppo is a matter of disputation, apparently; if Standard Catalogs are reliable or not is a matter of dispute; changing a citation-backed date (like the 507`s end of production) without deleting the quote is a sign of sloppy working. Your habit of not citing anything is not a good one, that´s for sure. Your habit of not adding a signature on talk pages is annoying. Altogether, the impression that you leave on regular contributors is that of the typical egotistic loud-mouth know-it-all, although in real life you´re most certainly a very agreeable person. Just think about it, if you please. --- I´ll consult a Gotha next week and try to find out anything on Goertz` middle name. A good day to you, --328cia (talk) 22:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My "habit of not citing" only occurs when the articles I'm writing haven't yet been published, you putz. If I said it without a citation, then it came from a primary source, in this case the owner of a 1960 BMW 507 which I photographed, drove, researched and wrote about, who also owns the single most complete collection of original 507 materials in the world, including BMW. When the article's published--and it's sitting in an editor's hands right now--then I'll cite my own damn work.

There's no dispute among anyone who writes about or researches old cars about the accuracy of Standard Catalogs. They're as full of holes as Ron Paul's economic policy. The rule of thumb is, if it's in there, it's wrong.

I bow my head to you, the modern-day automotive Michelangelo or P.J. O`Rourke. And you´ll damned need an editor, for sure. --- You may drive, photograph and research as much as you like, on WP you are still condemned to back up your claims. What do you think the authors of the 503/507 book I quoted did for research? Reading tea leaves? --- I´m tired of wasting my time with your ilk; your primary sources are, in the final analysis, apparently nothing but hearsay, and your self-aggrandizing stance is utterly disgusting. --- Still waiting for something that backs up your contentions that Goertz was not a Count and that his second name was Zeppo. --- And if you want to have a tasteless show-down: I´ve done 26 car books in the last 10 years. Putz, vulgo --328cia (talk) 00:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I´m very curious as to your reaction to the fact that BMW themselves say that the last 507 was built in Dec, 1959. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 328cia (talk • contribs) 02:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is again, for your convenience:

According to a further source I dug up (Georg Seeliger: BMW 503/507, Motorbuch Verlag, Stuttgart 1993), I can confirm the Waldorf Astoria presentation. The same source lists year-by-year production figures: 1955:3; 1956: 13; 1957: 91; 1958: 98; 1959: 48; 1960: 0 (although four registrations are listed for 1960; on page 138 you can read (my translation): "Production of the BMW 507 ended after a total of 209 Series II cars. 63 of these were built in 1957, 98 in 1958 and 48 in 1959. In the same years, a total of 41 Roadsters were registered in Germany. Later build years (1960 or even 1961) refer exclusively to the date of first registration; not one 507 was built after December, of 1959. Car No. 254, the car with the highest official number, was finished on August 14, 1959. Three more cars, that had been worked upon for months, left the factory at a still later date: No. 70.236 on December 29, 1959 and before that No. 70.242 on November 2 and 70.244 on November 4."

BMW acknowledge in their own archives that the last 507 was built in December 1959. Now, what you`re making of this?? --328cia (talk) 07:31, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ridding your talk page of unwelcome entries is another proof of your bad judgment and certainly not allowed by WP laws. -- A buddy of mine looked up Goertz in several reference works, and wouldn´t you know, he was listed as a Count and as a not-Zeppo. I´ll back that up some time with a quote, and you won´t be able to do anything against it, although for knowledgable eyes, you´ve disqualified yourself long ago. And by the way, threatening to quote your own unsourced work as a source alone disqualifies you for any serious work. -- 328cia (talk) 20:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, you have GOT to relax. You do realize you're talking about a car, right? I'm pretty sure no-one's life is at stake here. And I'm pretty sure that P.J. O'Rourke is the modern-day P.J. O'Rourke. (Proscriptus (talk) 18:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks for the advice (seriously). I sure did relax by backing down and leaving WP, and I´ve been the better for it ever since, that´s for sure. In hindsight, I do apologize for my harsh words, of course. -- Still, I´d beg you not to prefer oral sources to written ones; and if my buddy who looked it up will ever find his notices again, I`ll insert Goertz`s full name in the article. Here`s to you, --328cia (talk) 03:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that. On my part, I'll hold myself to a higher standard--check out my new entry on Kirkland Island.Proscriptus (talk) 13:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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