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Romeo and Juliet

Article(s): Romeo and Juliet

Request: At the Romeo and Juliet featured article candidature I commented that many of the images needed nice crops, cleaning. I have listed above the ones I thought were most obvious that someone could help with but feel free to look at the article if you think you can help with others. My 'comments' are vague because I am not good at this... but all of the images I paste I think could be cleaned up somewhat to make this a better FAC.

It may be a good idea to upload as different, restored images and then comment on the FAC or change them yourselves rather than overwriting these images. gren グレン 12:45, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I uploaded a new version of the portrait of John Gielgud. The author requested that his work integrity should not be touched. I hope that the black border was not part of the work. What do you think? --pabouk (talk) 11:32, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image of Charlotte Cushman Susan Cushman also done.   ■ MMXXtalk  16:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I straightened out Image:Arthur Brooke Tragicall His.jpg somewhat, feel free to revert if you want the old version back. Tadpole9(talk • contribs) 20:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also retouched the second image, but didn't replace the original this time. Tadpole9(talk • contribs) 22:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is image straight?

Article(s): Quadripoint

Request: I tried to straighten the image from its right-tilted original but I am not convinced that it is entirely straight yet. But it may just be the curve of my monitor distracing me. Can someone with better image software chek it? Rmhermen (talk) 18:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: It was off a tad. But it depends what you wanted to look straight, for instance I used the cross as my vert and horiz measures. Out of curiosity what software did you use? If you feel my edit detracts from the image please revert it! §hep¡Talk to me! 18:16, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The thumbnail isn't updating... Seen this on a few other images but I don't know the cause. :( -----J.S (T/C/WRE) 22:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Iz becuz zhe wiki needs to get sum new image rendering software. (That was fun) §hep¡Talk to me! 22:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm very familiar with these type of conflicts. Due to the angle of the shot, it may never be fixed completely with a "straighting" software.

Herzegovina

Article(s): History of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Duchy of Herzegovina

Request: Bosna Krallığı is Bosnian Kingdom, Hersek Dükalığı is Duchy of Herzegovina, Sırp Despotluğu is Serbian Despotate, Macaristan is Kingdom of Hungary, Venedikliler ise Republic of Venice, Karadağ is Montenegro, Osmanlı Devleti is Ottoman Empire, Eflak is Wallachia, Adriyatik Denizi is Adriatic Sea. SVG ification, and upload Commons, please.Lord Leatherface (talk) 16:04, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I'll try it. James1293 (talk) 00:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, someone else can do it. I need to work on my speed-svg skills... I think i might be tracing too meticulously. James1293 (talk) 01:04, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Tried it more... It's pretty difficult. Does it really need svg? James1293 (talk) 19:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Stale tag removed. §hep¡Talk to me! 22:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


french translation needed

Article(s): Cooking

Request: Please provide an English Version! 118.90.131.160 (talk) 22:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Do these translations look right? §hep¡Talk to me! 22:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Translations:

  • CRU = ???
  • Grillé = Grilled
  • Bouilli = Boiled
  • POURRI = MAY
  • Fermenté = Fermented
  • Vapeur = Steam
  • CUIT = COOKED
  • Fumé = Smoked
  • Rôti = Roast
How's that? §hep¡Talk to me! 22:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • CRU = Raw
  • Grillé = Grilled
  • Bouilli = Boiled
  • POURRI = Rotten
  • Fermenté = Fermented
  • Vapeur = Steamed
  • CUIT = COOKED
  • Fumé = Smoked
  • Rôti = Roasted
I think this is better. Jackaranga (talk) 22:59, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've fixed the translations, I think. Tadpole9(talk • contribs) 01:10, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the second pair of eyes Jackaranga. §hep¡Talk to me! 02:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

National Emblem of the People's Republic of China

Article(s): Various

Request: The current image isn't matching to current laws of China. The legal image of the state emblem is located at http://www.safp.gov.mo/external/chin/apm/files/info/64/china_logo.gif Can the image above be changed to match the image I am linking here? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Three-point field goal diagram(s)

Article(s): Three-point field goal

Request: This article needs, at the very least, a pictorial representation of the NBA three-point line as described in the "Rule specifications" section (including the "closest point" also described in the section) Furthermore, perhaps a comparison of three-point line distances would be nice. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 09:00, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: To whoever does this I found an SVG that might be helpful at Basketball. §hep¡Talk to me! 17:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This one maybe too, there are some others here and here. §hep¡Talk to me! 17:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Too whomever takes this up, it might be helpful to the reader if the colors matched approximately what might be expected to be seen at an actual basketball court. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 19:36, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Efron and other dice

Article(s): Nontransitive dice

Request: Quick vectorizations, not even sure if it's worth the time =) ... I'd do it, but I'm a bit busy. I'll probably just do it later this week if no one else gets to it. James1293 (talk) 18:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Vectorized "transitive dice" -- GateKeeperX (talk) 10:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vectorized "Efron dice", (is the last cube not supposed to have a number on top?) -- GateKeeperX (talk) 11:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Demographics of Iraq

Article(s): Demographics of Iraq, and others

Request: SVG ification, and upload Commons new version, please.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 14:50, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: It's probably earier just to click the "create a new section" link if you need a template. I hope the header wasn't supposed to say Romeo and Juliet. §hep¡Talk to me! 20:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This jpg version doesn't have any sourcing to prove that it meets WP:RS so it couldn't really be used for an FA. I recommend using as our base a map sourced from a reliable place so the SVG will be well sourced as well. gren グレン 12:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I found an alternative map to use as a base if someone wants to take a crack at this. Kmusser (talk) 18:41, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wings of a dragonfly

Article(s):

Request: I would like someone to improve these pictures so that I can submit them to the already well endorsed Dragonfly article. I guess the images need a bit of sharpening and slight colour corrections. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Graphist opinion: I apologize in advance if this seems a little harsh but honestly, these images are not going to be improved with sharpening. There is simply not enough detail there to sharpen. You need to retake the images with better lighting, focus (get the wings to lie along the focal plane) and more depth of field. WP has a lot of very good dragonfly images so you are up against some very steep competition and with all the PP in the world, these are not going to come close. Mfield (talk) 04:41, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Earth images

Test

Article(s): Earth mostly, but each image is used several times.

Request: Is there any chance someone could SVGify these ones? Cheers, Ben (talk) 01:08, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: svged, the image in the middle, the Dipole field. -- GateKeeperX (talk) 06:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

svg'ed, the world map image, please check to make sure I didn't miss anything. -- GateKeeperX (talk) 09:38, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing missed on the world map, but a few nit picks if that is allowed :) Can ..
  • cT patch on Australia and Africa be moved to the left a bit;
  • mE patch that is just east of S. America be moved to the left a bit;
  • mT patch that is just east of S. America be enlarged a bit?
Also, is it possible to get the edges a little fuzzy to give the impression these regions are approximate? Thanks for all your help, Ben (talk) 10:09, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
One big issue, don't use those longitude lines over an equirectangular projection! This requires some redesigning. Tadpole9(talk • contribs) 04:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Tadpole, feel free to redesign/redo the svg, I haven't had much time this week, so if anyone wants to give it a try. --GateKeeper(X) @ 17:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]





India/China border

Request: I made these orthographic maps, and based the national borders on the default borders from the output generator. ([1]) I noticed that the old robinson map for China (Image:Location China.svg) had some unrecognised territories in light green. I tried to do the same thing on China's globe.

Now I've got these messages on Commons:

Thanks for the India projection. But for inclusion on Wikipedia, I'm afraid we would have to neutrally represent the map of India. The version you uploaded equates the Line of Control as the International border. Please could you edit the disputed regions? Nichalp (talk) 14:26, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I suppose we should stick with the previous, established map until this has been sorted out. --Dbachmann (talk) 20:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi.this is a link to the political map of India which shows international boundaries rather than line of actual control. http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/india/india-political-map.htm And this is a an official link http://india.gov.in/maps/indiaindex.php Please change the picture or remove it completely as it is not factually accurate. 125.17.226.3 13:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi sorry, I missed out on your reply: Please see Image:India-locator-map-blank.svg. It explains the scenario very well. Kashmir and Arunachal Pradesh are the disputed areas. Nichalp (talk) 19:55, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Dear Ssolbergj, your map of China colors Arunachal Pradesh in light green (together with Taiwan)which implies it is somehow rather a part of CHina although under Indian administration. Why then doesn't the India map have Aksai Chin (a Chinese administered region claimed by India) be colored light green on the India map? Same goes with Pakistan occupied kashmir. Shouldn't those areas be in light green too? Please maintain neutrality as prescribed under Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. I look forward to you recoloring those maps with a NPOV in mind and not China slanted views. (Reference: [2] vs [3]. Thank you.

Can someone please sort this out and draw the right borders? I'm lost. :( - SSJ  14:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:

Cloud Computing

Article(s): Cloud computing

Currently use for talk page explanation only.

Request: Remove blurry shadow. General shaping to make the shape more smooth. Ramu50 (talk) 02:40, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks --Ramu50 (talk) 02:40, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Two points:

  1. PNG or better, SVG is preferred for this type of image (see [4])
  2. The first image is missing licensing (the biggest issue here), as well as a description. Plus, both are uncategorized.

Tadpole9(talk • contribs) 06:36, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In fact the "blurry shadow" is caused by storing the images in JPEG format. If you have the original images stored losslessly uploading them will certainly help (if someone is not going to redraw them completely to SVG). --pabouk (talk) 09:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

incomplete image chart, help needed

Types of string thongs
Back Sides
Strap Tie
T-back Underwear - string back
G-string Underwear - triangle back
V-string Underwear - V back


Request: This amazing chart features at the article on Thong (clothing). But, alas, it's incomplete. There are more significant variants remains to be added. I can't darw, and I can't get the original sketchmaster to work on the project. Can the graphic workshop help? Aditya(talkcontribs) 07:23, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I created a C-String illustration, could you be more specific about which additional variants should be created? (Also I would recommend the others be converted from .png to .svg format) -- GateKeeper(X) @ 18:35, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A cheeky may be very useful. Commons has an image of a regular thong (the commonest type), but it doesn't fit the graphic scheme here. I completely agree to the .svg idea. But, I don't have a software to do that, and already I had to come to this page for the conversion. Thank you very much. And, did I tell you that C-string came just fabulous? Looking forward to seeing the magic of Wikipedia at work. Thanks again. Aditya(talkcontribs) 02:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

Income tax

Resolved
 – Request was completed. §hep¡Talk to me! 08:33, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Income tax

Request: This image renders correctly in firefox's svg render and did render well in the wikipedia one, but it seems to have broken. What can I do to correct this? GameKeeper (talk) 14:45, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: This should probably go to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical), I don't remember the software Wikimedia uses, (something Wizard?) but if it worked before and not now it's most likely a software issue. §hep¡Talk to me! 17:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should be fixed now. --pbroks13talk? 20:28, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately you did not say what did you change. Did you convert the text to image? --pabouk (talk) 22:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hah, sorry. Yeah, I converted the all of the text to paths. --pbroks13talk? 02:15, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ImageMagick ? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 00:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Are you asking me what I used? If you are, I used Inkscape. --pbroks13talk? 00:59, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A question: What's with the astericks and shouldn't it be "Slovakia" ? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 00:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms of Palau

Resolved

Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:42, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Palau, politics template so dozens of articles

Request: color to match Image:Execseal.png-- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: There isn't a .gif but a PNG does exist, did you mean that one? §hep¡Talk to me! 01:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that the first image has license problems. /Lokal_Profil 02:10, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed both, I think. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 11:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 15:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Right here. Still need help? What can I do for'ya? Mononomic (talk) 16:55, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please color Image:Palau seal.gif to match Image:Execseal.png, svgify both if you can. Note both have name change tags on them. Thank you for responding, Mononomic! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have colored the image and it is now located at Image:Coat of arms of Palau.png per the name change request. Is the image OK? In general, it's very hard to do work on such small images. The Image:Execseal.png will be very difficult to improve or vectorize. The coat of arms might be slightly easier, but I don't have those extreme skills to do it. Let me know what you think. Mononomic (talk) 18:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Brilliant, thank you! Can you give 2 and 3 a plain white center, instead of the paint-colored white? Thank you so much! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:34, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
White or transparent? I was thinking transparent might be better for later use. Mononomic (talk) 22:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Transparent sounds great, please, for both! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:18, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, like I said above, I can do little with Image:Execseal.png. I can put most of it on the transparent background (like around the seal) but the seal itself will still have that different background color. The coat of arms I can put on a transparent background entirely. Sorry to make this so difficult! What do you want to do? Mononomic (talk) 18:53, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha. Okay, then transparent background for Execseal.png, coat of arms put on a transparent background entirely. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:03, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. How now, brown cow? Mononomic (talk) 00:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect, thank you! I have tagged both of them to be moved to Commons. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:42, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Karesi, Kara İzi

Article(s): Karesi

Request: This is flag of Karesi. Can you SVG ification, and upload Commons new version, please?--Lord Leatherface (talk) 11:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Vectorized to Image:Flag_of_Karesi.svg. How's that? Mononomic (talk) 16:15, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Marvelous!--Lord Leatherface (talk) 23:55, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Karelo-Finnish SSR Coat of Arms

Resolved
 – Thanks! --Pudeo 19:45, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Karelo-Finnish Soviet Socialist Republic

Request: I tried making a transparent background png version from the jpg, and it doesn't look bad in the article, but if you look more closely or paste it to a black background you see the cropping of the white background has failed somewhat. My skills just aren't enough because of the COA's details in the middle. It just bothers me that articles are using somewhat faulty version because of me. :) So if someone's up for it, just replace the the current png, thanks. Pudeo 19:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I cleaned up as much of the white as I could. Tadpole9(talk • contribs)

The stripes just under the hammer & sicke appear to be a bit buggy, but it's a lot better than mine. Thanks! --Pudeo 19:45, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Portal

Resolved

Article(s): Portal (video game)

Request: Could you please add some color on the floor and walls of the image so that they would be visible on black background as well? Maybe some sort of very light grey. Also if there is anything else that you think would make the image look good, please don't hesitate to do it. Diego_pmc Talk 07:15, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: How's that? --pbroks13talk? 07:31, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That was fast. It's good, but could you make the grey even lighter? The walls in the game are almost all white, and I'd like it is the image looks kinda the same. Diego_pmc Talk 07:44, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There you go; how about that? --pbroks13talk? 07:57, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Diego_pmc Talk 07:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cholera in Zimbabwe

Article(s): Zimbabwe, 2008 Zimbabwean cholera outbreak

Request: I would like someone to make a map of the Cholera outbreak in Zimbabwe based on the one on the BBC website. While I have created a blank map of the municipalities of Zimbabwe and one of the provinces, I don't have one of the districts and the yellow/red one I have included in the gallery may come in helpful but isn't wholly correct (see the map on the BBC website). I hope the other two blank maps I have added will help. Thanks a lot. Mangwanani (talk) 13:23, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: WHO Zimbabwe report may come in handy. But what bugs me the most is that you can't find a detailed description of the situation on WHO website. How come BBC knows more? --Ahnode (talk) 19:55, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No idea. But the map is quite nifty... Mangwanani (talk) 20:33, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've managed do make a version of my own. Feel free to tweak. Mangwanani (talk) 17:42, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of the Zimbabwe Defence Forces

Resolved
 – 17:28, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Article(s): Zimbabwe, Military of Zimbabwe, List of Zimbabwean flags

Request: Remove blank border around flag. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 14:56, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Done--23230 talk 17:27, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a million. Mangwanani (talk) 19:13, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tugs Flag

Resolved
 – 17:18, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Request: hi, i was wondering if anyone here would be interested in creating a simple SVG image. I'm terrible at making them. After not really getting any help by leaving messages to users on Wikipedia, i ended up here.

So the image i'm looking for is very simple. I'm looking to get a black flag, with a white circle in the middle of it. It doesn't really get any more than that - its supposed to be similar to Image:TUGS Flag.svg. The image is shown in the top of this image, as well as the far left of here and middle right of here. I understand its hard to see but if anyone could help me even the tiniest bit that would be amazing :D

I figured it should be around the scale of normal flags, i think its 4.5:3? that may not be true. The image is to be used on Template:TUGS as well as a userbox along the same lines as that, which i've not yet made.

Again, if anyone could help me, that would be amazing. I'll keep an eye on the page, I've got my talk page as well if anyone feels the need :) --SteelersFanUK06 ReplyOnMine! 23:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Here you go! By the way, if you want a logo for your wiki project, I have a few ideas. This is one of the few shows I vaguely remember from my childhood.--23230 talk 17:19, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms and flag of Tripolitania

Resolved
 – "Yes, it's better than old version. Thank you, very much." -Lord Leatherface. Tagged by Mononomic (talk) 14:52, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Tripolitania

Request: SVG please and Can you upload Commons, please. --Lord Leatherface (talk) 10:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:An svg version of the flag is available now. I am a bit reluctant of converting the second picture to svg as well as neither is used in any article. The quality of the coat of arms is not the best either. bamse (talk) 01:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also I use these svg images in Turkish Wikipedia and Latvian Wikipedia. Can you make Crescent in Image:Coat of arms of Vilayet-i Trablusgarp.jpg like Crescent in Image:Flag of Vilayet-i Trablusgarp.svg, please.? Do you understand me?--Lord Leatherface (talk) 12:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Like this? A word of warning: I don't know anything about Heraldry, so I am not sure if the outline of the coat of arms is correct. Also i don't know what the colours should be like. I used 0/102/0 (RGB) for the green and 238/238/236 (RGB) for the crescent based on Image:Flag of Vilayet-i Trablusgarp.gif.bamse (talk) 13:29, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me. I can speak a bit English. Can you thin Crescents in coat of arms, please?--Lord Leatherface (talk) 15:17, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about your English. It is perfectly understandable. Is the new version better? bamse (talk) 16:46, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's better than old version. Thank you, very much.--Lord Leatherface (talk) 18:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

handprints of Van Johnson

Resolved
 – "Very good, thank you!" Mononomic (talk) 16:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Van Johnson

Request: fix perspective, trim to encyclopedic... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 23:53, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: File:Handprints of Van Johnson.jpg How's that? Mononomic (talk) 15:04, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Very good, thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bacon's Castle

 Done as per Much improved. Thanks of Rmhermen

Article(s): Bacon's Castle

Request: Can something be done to correct the apparent lean of the outside walls? And maybe a better crop? Rmhermen (talk) 15:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Cropped and adjusted the perspective. If the changes don't look good feel free to revert. Tadpole9(talk • contribs) 18:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC) I did a more complete correction, color balance adjustment and sharpen. I uploaded it over again so check the version history and see which you prefer. Mfield (talk) 04:06, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Much improved. Thanks. Rmhermen (talk) 15:07, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms of Ireland

 Done

Article(s): Coat of arms of Ireland

Request: The Coat of arms of Ireland seems to be an odd shape. Could somebody change it to the standard shape (see image 2), and add a black border (which also seems to be standard)? Thank you! Cameron* 21:20, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I don't think there is a "standard" shape for coats of arms. I think, (but I am not sure) that this shape is ment to match the historical shape. It seems to match up with the only other source for it that i could find. -----J.S (T/C/WRE) 21:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fair enough. Feel free to remove this proposal. I merely mention it because it has been bugging me for a while. Especially when it is listed with other coat of arms. :) Best, --Cameron* 21:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Naw, lets leave it up. I could be wrong... If someone with more direct knowledge of coats of arms could speak up it could clear up the issue. -----J.S (T/C/WRE) 21:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I almost forgot...the question of the black border still remains. If you look closely at the image to which you linked, you can see a black border, which our version lacks. --Cameron* 15:23, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are various shapes of shield (see Escutcheon (heraldry), but on most it doesn’t matter. The only government link seems to be here (the Irish embassy in Argentina of all places!) and that shows the same shape. Unless it is evidence of a specific shape, then usually the creator of the image has free reign. As for the black line, I really don’t think it matters. Unless it is defined in the blazon (formal description) of the arms, it is the opinion of the once again the graphic's creator as to whether to add a boarder or not. The representation of a coat of arms is really up to interpretation of the blazon, for example all of these show three yellow lions on a red field (the arms of England), but all do it differently.

Therefore it is probably best to stick to the status quo. By the way, apologies for the lesson. You asked for someone with knowledge, but I can get rather longwinded on the subject!-23230 talk 17:56, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]