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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Wikiolap (talk | contribs) at 23:40, 27 August 2008 (reply.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Good work

That's a great writeup for XMLA. Arcann 01:47, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing list of XMLA Consumers

Here is my reply to User talk:Igorkrupitsky why XMLA Consumers section should be removed:

Few reasons:

  • There are hundreds of XMLA consumers now. It's like having list of ODBC consumers.
  • Wikipedia:NOTLINK#LINK policy - There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia
  • WP:EL policy - which have the following categories to be avoided:
- Links to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services
- Lists of links to manufacturers, suppliers or customers

Wikiolap (talk) 21:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here is my reply to User talk:Wikiolap why XMLA Consumers section should be retained:

  • I agree that the list is not complete but I doubt that there a hundred of XMLA consumers. What are you sources?
  • Most technical products on Wikipedia provide links to commercial product. This is what makes these article valuable. Without the link to sites that provide the technology the articles would be very dry.
  • Yes, I am associated with ReportPortal but link it to its non commercial open source product.

--71.180.62.2 (talk) 21:36, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

> but I doubt that there a hundred of XMLA consumers. What are you sources?
http://www.ssas-info.com/analysis-services-client-tools-frontend and http://www.mosha.com/msolap/util.htm.
Most of the products on this list are just SSAS clients and not XMLA consumers..
All SSAS clients are XMLA consumers, please read Analysis Services for more details. Wikiolap (talk) 23:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
> Most technical products on Wikipedia provide links to commercial product. This is what makes these article valuable.
If there are other non-perfect articles, it doesn't mean this one should follow. The better example is Business Intelligence article which used to have a list of products, and it was removed too. List of products does not make article valuable. This is encyclopedia, not directory. Please reread the policies I cited.
I am not just talking about few articles... Majority of technical articles are written this way.
I really don't want to get into argument about what majority of articles represent. I cited Wikipedia policies and provided sources for my claims. Please keep the discussion about this article. Wikiolap (talk) 23:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
> Yes, I am associated with ReportPortal but link it to its non commercial open source product.
It doesn't matter whether you promote commercial or free product. The conflict of interests is there. (interest doesn't have to be money directly extracted from users).
In this case, who are you? How do I know that you don't represent a conflict of interest by removing this list?

--71.180.62.2 (talk) 22:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tactic of changing subject won't work.

I showed how your edit is in conflict with several WP policies and provided sources for all claims. I am removing the list of XMLA consumers. Should you find new arguments - please discuss them here on this talk page before reverting my edits. Thanks, Wikiolap (talk) 23:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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