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Ok, this is ridiculous. I've heard the term "multi-string" used to mean "extended range" many times before, but it has always been totally stupid. All guitars have multiple strings (well, I know that there are 1-string guitars), so every non-1-string guitar, from tenors to Strats to harp guitars, is a multi-string guitar. Why not "extended range guitar"?Conical Johnson (talk) 04:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I really think this page title should be changed. Am I the only one who feels this way? "Multi-string guitar" is totally ridiculous. Conical Johnson (talk) 01:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wanted to add the precedent that exists at Extended-range bass. Conical Johnson (talk) 02:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm inclined to support this, but have a look at Wikipedia:naming conventions. We need to make a case in terms of this policy. I hope and believe we can, but to argue that this type of guitar should be called something is promotion of this way of speaking and not relevant under current policy. (This particular policy takes many people by surprise, but there are good reasons for it and this is not the place to argue them.)
Worse, attempts to argue that a particular name should be used can even count as (weak) evidence that it's not the current usage, and so count (weakly) against such proposals. Caution advised. Andrewa (talk) 16:53, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, there is no indication as to what the current usage is, since the prefix "multi" doesn't seem to appear in any of the article's sources. When I read "multi-string guitar" I honestly was expecting to find a contrast with some obscure one-string guitar. Alternately, I would assume that it meant a guitar where each "traditional" guitar string was replaced by two strings close together, fretted as one (as for a 12-string guitar, but not a 7-string guitar). Ultimately the best title might be 'Classical guitars with more than six strings, cumbersome as that may be -- or perhaps it should simply be merged into classical guitar.
Finally the definition in the first sentence seems incomplete; some musical instruments have move than six strings but are not "multi-string classical guitars," e.g., electrics, acoustics, sitars, harps, etc. Blackworm (talk) 21:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A quick Google brought up about the same number of results for "extended-range guitar" as "multi-string guitar", and many of the results for the latter refer to a "multi-string guitar pick" - a plectrum that plucks multiple strings at a time, which has nothing to do with guitars with more than 6 strings.
Further, there is a website that purports to be a localized source for many-stringed guitars, located at http://www.extendedrangeguitar.com/. There is no website at the URL http://multistringguitar.com/. I tried to find the relevent naming conventions for this sort of article, but couldn't really find anything that seemed to apply. Although guitars with more than 6 strings are not new, the concept of such guitars as a group, like an entire class of their own, is relatively new, and as such, I don't believe either term is overwhelmingly more popular. Since there doesn't seem to be a popular name to go by, I think the most accurate and concise name should be used. I'm not sure why none of the editors of this article have any thoughts on this. Conical Johnson (talk) 01:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]