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  • Speedy remove copyright tag - The article version in question is here (Revision as of 17:32, 8 July 2008). The 17:32 revision contained three quotes. The first quote (beginning with "Your daughters") was from 1855 and unlikely to be copyrighted anywhere. The percentage of potential copyright problem material was about 21% (= 1,464 characters/6,897 characters). The second quote (beginning with "The Victorians") and the third quote (beginning with "Ferns could be") was from peterboyd.com (Peter Boyd's personal website) and likely not a Wikipedia reliable source. I think using Boyd's web summary of his own writing raises Wikipedia reliable source issues. Information from the second and third quote should have been sourced directly to one of Boyd's many publications, including BOYD, P.D.A. 1993(a). Pteridomania - the Victorian passion for ferns. Antique Collecting 28, 6, 9-12. As I see it, the first quote wasn't copyrighted material, the information from the second and third quote very likely could have been sourced to one of Boyd's many publications, paraphrasing didn't contribute to any copyright problem, an experienced editor was working on the article, and the editor was in the process of addressing the raised copyright issues (not merely reverting). Tagging the article as having copyright problems seems overreactive. If there was a need, the article could have been protected and the discussion continued on the article talk page. In any event, the copyright tag should be removed and the matter handled differently. GregManninLB (talk) 23:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The revision contained three lengthy quotes, combined with semi-reworded parts of the same article. I responded to a copyvio report. I felt the quotes went past the acceptable level. Rather than tag for CSD, I thought the article could be fixed by removing the quotes. HouseOfScandal reverted and asked for specific policies. I pointed him to WP:COPYVIO, WP:COPYRIGHT, and WP:NONFREE and I attempted to discuss. However, he continued putting back the quotes and refused to believe that using so much quoted material was even a possibly copyright violation. As he and could not come to any sort of agreement and communication was impossible, I felt it best to follow the dictated procedure at Wikipedia:Suspected copyright violations‎ to "Send non-blatant copyright infringements" here. If that isn't correct, then the instructions on that page should be appropriately corrected to whatever is correct (though that makes me ask what is the purpose of this page?) -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 03:51, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
  • I could pick that statement apart sentence-by-sentence in comparison of actual events (note: [10] and [11]), but it hardly seems worth the fuss. I hope it suffices to say that the above statement is a ridiculous mischaracterization of actual events by an editor who seems overly anxious for conflict. - House of Scandal (talk) 13:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, you can't, because it is what happened, whether you want to believe it or not. It was clear from the discussion, or attempt thereof, on my talk page, that you and I would not come to a consensus so I followed the next logical step. You are the one who is taking everything so personally just because this article was apparently up for a DYK. -- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 14:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: article creator and main contributer.-- [[::User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] ([[::User talk:Collectonian|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 03:51, 9 July 2008 (UTC)