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Eleland issues persist

Aatomic1

Grandmaster

Arbcom cases: Armenia-Azerbaijan and *Armenia-Azerbaijan 2' .

Only days after his AA1 1RR limitation expired and even after promising that he would stick to 1RR, Grandmaster is back at edit warring. He has been re-adding the Azeri language template to the Nakhchivan khanate article that doesn't belong there since April 6th. The template doesn't belong there because that language didn't exist at the time. The only appropriate template would be the Persian/Arabic script that was used at the time. Since his first revert on April 6th he has reverted the article 5 times the last two came yesterday. He first reverted an IP address claiming him to be a banned user[15]. Then reverted me claiming that the first revert was to a banned user[16].

I would like to note that he is yet to provide the sources I requested almost a month ago[17], instead his gaming the system and edit warring. VartanM (talk) 07:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another frivolous report by VartanM. As I was explained by the arbitration clerk, reverting edits by banned users is not counted toward any parole limitation: [18] The first rv was fixing an obvious vandalism, it deleted info from the article and attacked the admin who reverted previous deletion of info: [19] The IP 149.68.165.134 (talk · contribs) is very similar to the IPs 149.68.165.88 (talk · contribs) and 149.68.31.146 (talk · contribs), which are proven socks of banned User:Azad chai, and it made the reverts identical to those by the banned user. Basically that vandal goes around and deletes Azerbaijani spellings from region related articles for no apparent reason. I believe anyone can compare those IPs and make his own judgment as to whether or not it is the same person. Once the vandalism by the banned user was reverted, VartanM continued edit war started by the banned user, failing to explain why the Azerbaijani spelling needed to be deleted from the article. VartanM has not demonstrated any wiki rule that does not allow inclusion of Azerbaijani spellings into the articles. So I only made 1 rv of deletion of info by VartanM in support of the banned user. This is not is not violation of my parole, which is not in force anymore but which I agreed to observe voluntarily. I don’t think reporting for reverting obvious vandalism by banned user is anything other than an attempt to get rid of an opponent. Grandmaster (talk) 07:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, please note that VartanM himself reverted the article in question 3 times during the same period (i.e. since 7 April, when anon vandals started attacking this article), but unlike me he was not reverting the banned user. And I did not make 5 rvs like VartanM claims, just 4, of which 2 were vandalism by the banned user, so I stayed perfectly within my former revert limit and in fact made less reverts than the person who reports me. In addition, I discussed the issue in much detail on talk, but VartanM failed to provide any valid reason for deletion of Azerbaijani spelling, and chose instead to join the banned user in edit warring. Also note that since beginning of April a number of articles got semi-protected because of activity of the same anon vandals, among them Caucasian Albania, Erivan khanate, Shusha, Yerevan, Kirovabad pogrom, and others, but anons keep on edit warring, and some established users help them. Grandmaster (talk) 09:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that deserves the attention is coordinated activity of VartanM and the banned user Azad chai, who hides behind multiple anon IPs. Those 2 revert in support of each other, and it appears to be an attempt to bait other users and then report them. I would be glad to be wrong on this, but facts speak for themselves. See how many times IPs in that range and VartanM reverted in support of each other on various articles, is it just a coincidence, considering the above report? And who is really gaming the system? Grandmaster (talk) 08:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In the meantime the sock activity on Nakhchivan khanate continues: [20] An admin just blocked another IP in 149.68... range for block evasion: [21] Grandmaster (talk) 15:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It seems as though VartanM has a green light to harass people - [22] and [23], falsely associate identities for intimidation [24] and even accuse the reporter of fundamental WP:HARASS violation of "forum shopping" with support of obviously non-neutral administrator, edit war (see AA ArbCom 2), waste time in WP:AE endlessly, coordinate with socks, respond to every single report on every single board in attempt to yield it unreadable, and yet remain unrestricted for all these violations. One wonders why would VartanM seek to report someone on AE, which he himself has pretty much proved to be ineffective if not useless. Atabek (talk) 16:08, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And here is how disregard to behavior such as that of VartanM, Fedayee against myself, User:Ehud Lesar and User:AdilBaguirov impact the community [25]. Perhaps, it's time to pay attention and explain disruptive nationalist POV pushing editors, that they should concentrate on topics rather than on identity of editors. Atabek (talk) 17:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User: VegitaU and User: Aude

Martinphi

Tachyonbursts

Arbcom case: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/September 11 conspiracy theories

GDD1000

ScienceApologist on an IP?

Eupator

Arbcom case: AA 1 or 2, or maybe just general sanctions.

Community ban of MarkBA for repeated sockpuppetry

"Probation" violations?

Eyrian on an IPs?

Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/JohnEMcClure confirmed that Eyrian, who participated aggresively in AfDs and last edited in October 2007 and who was subsequently blocked per Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eyrian, made "numerous IP edits". Notice this IP's edit history that follows seems to focus on certain kinds of articles. Now today, notice this edit in which the IP writes, "It's been awhile since I've seen an ipc article nominated", but if you look again at the edit history of the IP, there are NO previous edits to any IPC articles, which thus makes that statement odd and as if it is from someone who either edits using different IPs or who is an old user. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 18:37, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • There are many editors who are AFD regulars (this IP certainly is if it is a stable IP) and care about IPC, fancruft, trivia, episodes, and the like. Any specific reason you think this is Eyrian as opposed to someone else? And do you really think the closing admins are going to pay any attention to IP comments that don't make new arguments? I don't think the admins will. GRBerry 18:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think Eyrian, because the IP's edits start around the time that Eyrian stopped editing from his Eyrian account (in October 2007) and started using different accounts and IPs. I suppose one of the arbitration committee checkusers could check the IP to see (I'm not sure if they could go back far enough to check if it's Eyrian, but if it is someone also using additional current accounts or IPs, those might show up). Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 18:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Two possibilities. 1) This isn't Eyrian - obviously, we shouldn't do anything then, but it would be helpful to point out to the editor that commenting in an AFD using an IP results in minimal weight and the user might consider using an account. 2) This is Eyrian - then he can readily evade by going to a different IP (proxy, resetting a router, going to a different coffee shop, et cetera...). Either way, I don't see much to gain by blocking an IP. So far as I can see, since the case close identified or even suspected any puppets or IP addresses of Eyrian that were still in use at the time suspected, so I don't know what would happen if we tagged as a suspected puppet. Definitely try the user's talk page for a discussion. Consider tagging with {{sockpuppet}} and watching; if the IP editor vanishes then that will be confirmation of a sort, but indicate that an unending game of whack-a-mole is forthcoming. GRBerry 19:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The IPs are unlikely to be related. They all originate from home internet providers. Two originate from the same provider, but different regions. The other originates from a different provider. Vassyana (talk) 06:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC) I am not a checkuser.[reply]

Is it possible for a checkuser to see who the one IP is that claims to have not seen an IPC AfD in a while and yet the IP has no edits to IPC AfDs? Do the checkusers still have the information on Eyrian to see if it's likely or if in fact it is actually a current user possibly using IPs as socks? Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 01:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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