User talk:Proscriptus

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Goertz and 507

Contrary to my first impression, I´m now convinced you´re willing to contribute good faith edits. Still, I´d ask you to back your claims up with sources. If Goertz was a count or not is a matter of legal circumstances (I´m not an expert on this); if his middle name was Zeppo is a matter of disputation, apparently; if Standard Catalogs are reliable or not is a matter of dispute; changing a citation-backed date (like the 507`s end of production) without deleting the quote is a sign of sloppy working. Your habit of not citing anything is not a good one, that´s for sure. Your habit of not adding a signature on talk pages is annoying. Altogether, the impression that you leave on regular contributors is that of the typical egotistic loud-mouth know-it-all, although in real life you´re most certainly a very agreeable person. Just think about it, if you please. --- I´ll consult a Gotha next week and try to find out anything on Goertz` middle name. A good day to you, --328cia (talk) 22:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My "habit of not citing" only occurs when the articles I'm writing haven't yet been published, you putz. If I said it without a citation, then it came from a primary source, in this case the owner of a 1960 BMW 507 which I photographed, drove, researched and wrote about, who also owns the single most complete collection of original 507 materials in the world, including BMW. When the article's published--and it's sitting in an editor's hands right now--then I'll cite my own damn work.

There's no dispute among anyone who writes about or researches old cars about the accuracy of Standard Catalogs. They're as full of holes as Ron Paul's economic policy. The rule of thumb is, if it's in there, it's wrong.

I bow my head to you, the modern-day automotive Michelangelo or P.J. O`Rourke. And you´ll damned need an editor, for sure. --- You may drive, photograph and research as much as you like, on WP you are still condemned to back up your claims. What do you think the authors of the 503/507 book I quoted did for research? Reading tea leaves? --- I´m tired of wasting my time with your ilk; your primary sources are, in the final analysis, apparently nothing but hearsay, and your self-aggrandizing stance is utterly disgusting. --- Still waiting for something that backs up your contentions that Goertz was not a Count and that his second name was Zeppo. --- And if you want to have a tasteless show-down: I´ve done 26 car books in the last 10 years. Putz, vulgo --328cia (talk) 00:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]