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Introduction to M-theory

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Needless introduction to M-theory, was a copyvio for four years, could become a fork.

Thanks Morven, article had vanished while the history was being sweeped of the copyvio. Gwen Gale (talk) 11:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete We already have the main article M-theory. I think this one is needless and could become unhelpful. It could fork off accidently into a misleading summary (the solar system analogy is in itself not at all the way to put a rundown of bound particles in quantum states and there are already other creeping worries of missed simplification): A reader could be more lost than ever after reading this. Moreover, why maintain two articles? Conflicts are likely to slip through one day, even shreds of PoV which could turn this one into a fork, maybe. Gwen Gale (talk) 10:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete wierd and more of a tutorial than an article and yet not very helpful. It is more of a superquick, not-entirely correct guide to very-small things in physics. Yes M-theory is hard to understand, but that's because string theory is hard to understand (apparently even by string theorists). If someone needs to be reminded what an atom is then, lets face it, they probably need to start at a less abstract level than m-theory.Nick Connolly (talk) 09:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. An article on this topic would be quite worth-while. The current pseudo-stub not really useful, though. If possible, improve, don't delete, but not much would be lost if it went away completely. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 11:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
By topic do you mean an introductory topic? I ask because we already have the main article M-theory. Gwen Gale (talk) 11:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I mean at maybe the level of a typical SciAm article. Our current article on M-theory is not that hot, either... --Stephan Schulz (talk) 11:47, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Previous related debate concerning Introduction to evolution was here. What I said when closing that debate was "It is clear that WP:AFD is the wrong venue for discussing "introduction to" articles in general. Suggest opening a request for comments on the issue, or continuing at one of the discussion threads pointed out towards the end of this AfD. The issues specific to this article (such as proposals to merge with evolution should be addressed on the talk page for the article". Raising this here in case this applies here as well, with any merge obviously being to M-theory. Carcharoth (talk) 22:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete article is a content fork, great for other projects forking the project, bad for forking pages within the project -Mask? 05:53, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep deletion is not the way to deal with "Introduction to" articles.--Michael C. Price talk 07:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. We do still have Introduction to entropy. The problem there referred to above is related to arguments about the disambiguation page. Delete is not the answer. If there are problems with it, then it should be discussed at Talk:Entropy whether it should be merged back there. The same should holds for this article. Personally I would keep that one and this one. Making the various articles on entropy understandable is not proving easy, and I suspect the same with this one. --Bduke (talk) 07:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • comment it seems to me that aside from the rights-and-wrongs of introduction-to... articles in general, they provide a bit of a puzzle for the AfD process. The central issue in most AfD's is usually notability but this articles actual subject (M-theory) is manifestly notable. However at the same time that doesn't mean a seperate introduction article is neccesarily called for. In this case we have a bad introduction to artcile, but AfD isn't clean up. Perhaps we need a deeper theory of deletion, an M-theory of deletion....Nick Connolly (talk) 09:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe a "no forks" theory of deletion? Or a special "skirt un-needed complexity" hypothesis of forked relativity? Gwen Gale (talk) 09:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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