Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oracle Fusion Middleware

Oracle Fusion Middleware

Delete Poorly written article on a subject of questionable notability. Tags were placed on this article last October and December, but very little improvement since. Basically the article is written like an ad, has no references, and is therefore original research. Bardcom (talk) 18:24, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete- non notable, advert. AndreNatas (talk) 18:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Being poorly written is no reason for deletion. The various components are in some cases very widely used, and have been the subject of several text books written and published independent of Oracle. I disagree that it's written like an ad.--Michig (talk) 18:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plus, there are plenty of news articles([1]).--Michig (talk) 18:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a ref. to a Gartner paper that discusses amongst other things the revenue Oracle receive from OFM, which I think makes it clear that the subject is notable. By all means slap a {{refimprove}} tag on the article, but there's no way it should be deleted.--Michig (talk) 19:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Seems to be notable by news coverage. If the nominator has problems with the way the article is written, he/she should be WP:BOLD and fix it rather than throw it at AfD. Celarnor ^{Talk to me} 19:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Celarnor, if the article is notable, it should have references and stand on it's own two feet. Numerous tags were added to the article, and the article remained poorly written. I nominated the article because of this. Perhaps if you have a problem with articles being "thrown" at AfD, you can be WP:Bold and fix it yourself. I wouldn't know where to start with it. Bardcom (talk) 20:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Searching Google and Google News is always a good start in determining notability, although lack of hits on either would not necessarily indicate a lack of notability. In what way is the article poorly written? I don't want to spend too much time on this article but if you have specific concerns I'll have a go at addressing them.--Michig (talk) 20:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]