Talk:CRM 114 (fictional device)

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fictitious or real?

Is this device fictitious or real? --Jtir (talk) 20:56, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

is it "CRM-114" or "CRM114"?

This could be sourced with a screen shot of the device. --Jtir (talk) 22:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The device is fictional, and is properly "C.R.M. 114" as per the film. No need for a screen shot, IMHO. I've made the changes to the article. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ^{(talk / cont)} 04:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking this. --Jtir (talk) 12:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since the device in Red Alert (novel) is called the "CRM 114", I propose renaming the article to match. (replace the hyphen with a space) --Jtir (talk) 17:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

apocryphal instances

Thanks for checking all those alleged sightings of "CRM 114" in Kubrick's films. Since they are not verifiable, they could be removed per WP:V. --Jtir (talk) 12:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

These all make claims about "CRM" and, after looking at them, I can see the need for the "apocryphal instances" note.

Some of these could have been "sourced" from WP, I suppose.

--Jtir (talk) 12:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

why couldn't the crew be recalled?

The lead seems to be incorrect, but I am not sure of a detail from the film — the crew could not be recalled because the CRM 114 was destroyed by an anti-aircraft missile.

Dr. Strangelove is somewhat vague on this point: "Unable to receive the recall code, due to damage to the plane's radio equipment, ..."

--Jtir (talk) 15:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A near-miss explosion of a missle does damage to the aircraft, including setting off the explosive destruction device of the CRM 114. With the device destroyed, the crew cannot receive the recall code. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ^{(talk / cont)} 16:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I forgot about the self-destruct mechanism in the CRM 114. As I recall, the Pentagon(?), in desperation, tries to send a recall message without the authentication code. Major Kong scoffs: "That's just them Russkies trying to trick us" (approximately). (Apparently, their radio receiver is functional.)

Doesn't the CRM 114 also appear earlier when the B-52 crew receives the attack(?) order? (I have watched the film several times, but these details are only now coming back to me.) I'm thinking that the article could be expanded to describe more fully the role of the CRM 114 in the plot. --Jtir (talk) 17:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]