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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by PowerMacX (talk | contribs) at 06:31, 30 June 2005 (A New Paradigm (yeah, right)). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Kingsley Idehen 12:16, 25 Mar 2005: I contributed additional content to this very important document (unfortunately I forgot to login before making this round of edits). I would advice that differing views on Web 2.0 should be expressed by editing and contributing to the content. Basically, participate in the debate or conversation (constructively) and we will end up with an article with a high knowledge quotient. Simply placing Wiki tags template tags doesn't help such a cause. It costs next to no time to place a tag in an article and significant amount of time to express ones alternative view via content contribution. Wikis are about open conversation and debate (expressed through the contribution of knowledge), simply saying "I disagres everyone!" doesn't really fit into this scheme. Let's encourgage mass participation in this evolutionary process. Nothing is defnitive as all human beings are beasts of bias (our context and individual experiences are inextricably linked), open conversation and debate is how we dilute bias.

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Boris Mann: I removed the "implementation" section pointing to companies -- let's not have this page be a commercial advertisement, but rather an evolving definition of Web 2.0. Link to a longer article on your own site if you want to talk about your opinions.

I also removed WebDAV -- that's a particular technology choice, but is only one among many.

This seems to be a vague article promoting a bunch of the author's favorite technologies and psuedo-tech-blabber. It certainly doesn't match how I've seen the term used. And some of the writing is just absurd -- XML-RPC is a specific format, it cannot be RESTian. If you want to remove the totallydisputed tag you're going to need some cites to back this stuff up.AaronSw 21:12, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup

I'm not qualified to really resolve the debate over the definition, but I am pretty knowledgeable about the Wikipedia, so I changed things to conform better to Wikipedia standards. The text still needs a lot of cleanup to eliminate its present jargon-heavy, promotional tone. A more inclusive approach to the definition would be a vast improvement, i.e. more of a "web 2.0 is like this" than "web 2.0 is this". Future editors should try to think more in terms of explaining Web 2.0 rather than defining Web 2.0. Finally, I added it to the WWW category -- it seemed to call for a more explicit subcategory but there may not be a good one yet. It's something for the time being, at least. --Dhartung | Talk 07:55, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • OK, I just waded in and made some major changes. The text in this article is, frankly, some of the most terrible, impenetrable marketing gobbledygook I've seen outside of spam pages. There's no way that an average person looking at this article could make any sense out of it. Many claims are simply too POV for a neutral Wikipedia entry; this entry does not exist to sell Web 2.0 to people and should make clear when arguable claims are being made. I'm going to continue working through the article. I don't mind it being expanded or corrected, but whoever works on it would really do well to keep readability in mind. We have plenty of space to explain concepts; we don't need $50 words to make points. --Dhartung | Talk 21:47, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A New Paradigm (yeah, right)

This "article" is a joke. Not up to Wikipedia standards. - Just my 2c

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