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information regarding the DVD release is irrelevant and wrong

The entry about the DVD release is incorrect.

1- Many other tv shows containing excessive music titles have been released on DVD. One of the best examples is the L word which contains almost the same amount of licensed music material as Cold Case do. 2- Producers "always" !!! do include the DVD and alternative broadcasting usage right to the loyalty agreements. So buying them for the dvd release wont be a problem. Let alone, the producers of Cold Case are very experienced in dvd releases. 3- The price information about the CSI series is absolutely incorrect. CSI season box-sets range between $24 and $64. 4- I didnt had the chance to go trough all Dawson Creek episodes but i can confirm that many of the episodes on DVD have the exact same audio/music with the aired episodes, including the series finale and the 01/01 episode.

so stop BSing about the DVD release. there is definately something else about it. 88.240.146.153 01:24, 3 January 2007 (UTC)MG[reply]

I've removed this. We have no evidence this is anything but someone's speculation. Jkelly 01:46, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Music Issues

To the first comment, you know absolutely nothing about the topic at hand. First of all, almost all the music on the Dawson's Creek DVDs have been replaced due to licensing issues. Go to http://dawsonscreekmusic.com/ and, right off the bat, that's the first thing that site will tell you. Second, the fact that you would compare The L Word's music selection to Cold Case's is just laughable. The L Word mainly features obscure music by mostly unknown or underground artists. The music is most likely very cheap to obtain and the artists along with their labels are probably more than happy to receive the exposure. Cold Case on the other hand makes use of very popular and very well known songs by well known artists. That gives the rights owners the option to charge insane amounts of money just to use them once. It's a very sticky, legal situation when using songs by artists such as Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen (who is notoriously protective of his music). The producers of the immensely popular Cheers couldn't even get the permission to use "Da Do Run Run" on their DVDs. And that's just one song. Do you honestly believe it's going to be any easier for Cold Case to get all their music on DVD? Yes, obviously it's the music's legal issues keeping the show from being released on DVD. That's not speculation that just common sense.--AtomicAge 19:37, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Left-wing Bias

Something should definitely be added about the extreme left-wing bias of the writers of "Cold Case": nearly every episode grinds some dreary politically-correct axe of the silly (especially feminist) left, and this needs to be documented as the fact it is. I will add such edits accordingly over the coming days. Carthago delenda est 01:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Such inclusions don't sound necessary, informative or productive. Sounds more like your own opinions based on your own personal biases and I don't see how it will be helpful to the entry or to anyone reading it. --AtomicAge 10:01, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Such inclusions are quite necessary. Those who routinely lie about their culture through propaganda are often quite apt to yearn to rule, eventually, along the lines of Joseph Goebbels. The producers & writers of this show are but little removed from his ideological lineage, albeit with an early 21st Century American-leftist bent. Your "commentary," such as it is, is appreciated: I'm more motivated than ever to make the necessary factual entries I described above. Carthago delenda est 03:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like original research to me. Without proper citations this can't be included.--Fogeltje 07:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't watch Cold Case frequently, but nearly every episode I have seen appears designed to promote a distinct world view and sympathy on issues of race, sex, religion, mores, progress of society, etc. This includes how it selects and portrays its villains and victims (or arguably stereotypes them). The formula is: make A victimize B (each with predictable characteristics) to imply something about the mores and background represented in A and B, in a type of Straw man argument. More solid references could be found, but it's partly summed up here[1] with links to episodes: '...one of the preachiest of the preachy cop shows has to be "Cold Case" on CBS. The show is consumed with such liberal preoccupations as anti-abortion activism, disturbed Vietnam veterans, transgender hero(ines), interracial lesbian love affairs, draft dodgers, McCarthyism and demonizing Christians' (the last lacks a link, but Google '"cold case" christianity'). Reactions from viewers of all persuasions are also at [2]. --File Not Found 06:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Episode notability

Many or all of the existing individual episode pages for this series appear to fail the notability guidelines for television episodes, and have been tagged accordingly. These articles can be improved through the inclusion of real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. Overly long plot summaries should be edited, to a maximum length of approximately ten words per minute of screen time. Trivia should be integrated into the body of the article, or removed if it is not directly relevant. Quotes and images should only be used as part of a critical analysis of the episode. You might also consider merging any notable information onto the show's "List of episodes" or season pages. Otherwise, when these pages come up for review in fourteen days, they may be redirected, merged or deleted. If you want any help or further information, then come to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Episode coverage. Thanks. Gwinva 15:58, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On episode notability - I'm very happy to go through the tagged pages and improve them where possible, inline with the style guide. Also on this point - does Wikipedia need more Cold Case episode pages? I'm very happy to work on them if so. And to go slightly off-topic, should these episode pages be titled (Cold Case), (Cold Case Episode) or nothing at all? Don't want to tread on any toes - just a newbie offering to help out. Cheers. Fadeitup 17:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Victims and end scenes

This section is getting way out of end, existing primarily of lists of end scenes. The 'notable exceptions' slowly turn out into a list of anything that is not listed in the first list. In my eyes, both lists should be deleted, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. A list does not contribute anything to the paragraph. While the starting paragraph is fine, the lists are not. Perhaps ONE or TWO examples can be given for further illustration and perhaps the same when the pattern deviates. I also have a problem with the 'notable unlikeable victims' list as it is heavily POV. My strongest objection is again the list which should also be removed and perhaps replaced with one or two examples. I think I will be bold and go ahead with these changes later.--Fogeltje 17:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]