Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Hierarchy

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(WR means Wikipedia Release versions, and GA means Good Article lists)

Move WR "Theatre, film and television" from "Language and literature" to "Arts"
Move WR "Geology, geophysics and minerology" from "Geography" to "Natural science"
Rename "Geography" as "Geography and places", and split WR into "Geography" and "Places"
Rename "History" as "History and warfare"
Rename "Chemistry" as "Chemistry and materials science"
Rename "Architecture" as "Architecture and architects"
Move GA "Film" from "Social sciences and society" to "Arts"
Move GA "Agriculture etc." from "Natural sciences" to "Everyday life"
Split GA "Geography" into "Geography" and "Places"

Last edit: Geometry guy 22:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion of changes and other issues

Listing "Theatre, film and television" under "Arts" (1 and 7)

Support Walkerma 05:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support as discussed at Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team. Geometry guy 13:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Listing "Geology, geophysics and minerology" under "Natural science" (2)

Neutral Walkerma 05:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unsure, but in my view Geology/geophysics and Meteorology/atmospheric science should be listed together, either under a broadly based "Natural science" section, or under a broadly based "Geography and geosciences" section. At GA, they are currently listed under "Natural science", so this choice requires less work. However, the range of articles listed here suggests that the geography and geosciences approach may be more natural. Geometry guy 13:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting "Geography" into "Geography" and "Places" subtopics (3 and 9)

How would this work at WR? Geography without places would be a very small section. Do you mean "Geography and Places" at the top level and then have "Geography" and "Places" as subtopics of that? Walkerma 05:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is exactly what I mean, and have clarified this The geography subtopic would be relatively small, but that is partly why I think it is a good idea to separate it, so that the geography doesn't get lost among the long lists of places. Geometry guy 13:12, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Naming of history section: "History and warfare"? (4)

Weak support: This may seem like an odd combination in theory, but in practice it works well - much of human history seems to be about warfare... Walkerma 05:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At Wikipedia:Version_0.5#History, the title is "History and war". A third alternative would be "History and conflict". The case for a name like this is: (a) this seems to be the best place to put all the articles on military history and tactics; (b) the name of the topic should reflect the content; (c) it is awkward to have a subtopic with the same name as the name of the topic. It is a sad observation, though, that much of human history is about conflict! Geometry guy 13:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming "Chemistry" as "Chemistry and materials science" (5)

Weak support: I don't like lengthening, but this would be a helpful case Walkerma 05:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should "Architecture" be renamed as "Architecture and architects"? (6)

Oppose: I think it's implied. We don't have "Arts and Artists" and "Science and Scientists"; it should be understood that you'll find an architect listed under his/her profession.

Listing "Agriculture etc." under "Everyday life" (8)

Support Walkerma 05:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but not yet sure exactly how to merge it with the other stuff under Everyday life. Geometry guy 13:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]