Talk:Systems programming
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I changed a few things, I:
- removed the pseudo-definition of programming, and replaced it by referring to the programming article;
- removed the "for computers" part, because system software is always for computers so there's no ambiguity to resolve;
- removed examples of systems software, because that's the job of the system software article and this article is strictly about _programming_ system software;
- removed the comment about SIC, which was irrelevant;
- removed the comment about logging and monitoring, because those things are in no way specific to systems programming;
- added some characteristics;
- presented the characteristics in list form, and changed the description of programming languages to more accurately reflect the actual criteria;
- made some minor additional changes.
-- Eelis 23:05, 2005 May 21 (UTC)
Proposed merge with System software
- I disagree with the removal of debugging and logging. While it is not specific to system programming, it has somehow different role in system programming from that in application programming. Moreover, I proposed the merger of system programming and system software. The two articles are still fairly short and and I thought it is a kind of awkward to talk about how to do system programming without elucidating what is system software. -- Taku 23:43, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
- I would be in favor of a merger, but can't seem to find your proposal (I'm pretty new around here). Could you provide a link? Thanks. -- Eelis 23:53, 2005 May 21 (UTC)
- Because I forgot to add the tag: {{merge|system softwar}}. I should have not started working before morning coffee :) -- Taku 23:59, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
The merge seems like a poor idea to me. "System software" is something that a computer user or operator might need to know about. Systems programming is something that a programmer or someone interested in programming might want to know about. Yes, one needs to know what System software is before one reads about how to create it, but that doesn't mean the articles should be merged. "System software" is understandable to the casual passer-by; programming isn't. Both articles can be expected to grow with time. -R. S. Shaw 22:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)