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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Perelom~enwiki (talk | contribs) at 13:25, 30 October 2007. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

It is obviously hard to define what is GMDH. Since it is a set of algorithms the definition should be a set of its common properties I think.

You are right. Almost all GMDH algorithms sort-out gradually changing models and check them by external criterion. Even OCC algorithm. Perelom 12:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the description of GMDH: "..it simultaneously minimize the models error and find out the optimal model structure.." the phrase "minimize the models error" is not a property of GMDH. This is a property of a criterion of regularity but, there are a lot of other criteria for which this is not truth.

Of course. But the main here that it is done simultaneously in GMDH. From the three classes of criteria (accuracy, balance and information type) usually is used criteria of accuracy. Perelom 12:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I understand, the only principle of GMDH that is really common for all algorithms is the 'search of a model of optimal complexity' this principle makes us to use 'sample dividing' and gives us 'noise resistance'. It is used in combinatorial, multilayered and harmonic algorithms for sure.

Difference of the GMDH algorithms from another algorithms of structural identification and best regression selection algorithms consists of several main peculiarities, which I think must be added to the page:
-usage of external criteria, which are based on data sample dividing and are adequate to problem of forecasting models construction;
-more diversity of structure generators: usage like in regression algorithms of the ways of full or reduced sorting of structure variants and of original multilayered (iteration) procedures;
-better level of automatization: there are needed to enter initial data sample and type of external criterion only;
-automatic adaptation of optimal model complexity and external criteria to level of noises or statistical violations - effect of noiseimmunity cause robustness of the approach;
-implementation of principle of inconclusive decisions in process of gradual models complication. Perelom 13:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The second, inductiveness is a property of only multilayered GMDH i.e. property of GMDH-type NNs. I can't see any inductiveness in the combinatorial algorithm because models are not 'gradually complicated'. Perhaps that is not good but that is the way it works.

No, the Combinatorial is pure 'inductive' sorting GMDH algorithm. By the way, it make full sorting of models with not only increasing, but also decreasing complexity. Perelom 12:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]