Wikipedia talk:Don't violate consensus
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Yes, of course, this has near zero chance of ever being close to real policy. The fact that it is essentially two radical proposals in one, and sadly both involve so much process. Perhaps though, if people make very BOLD changes to this proposal something good might come out of it... What I'm trying to address is that we have an official policy on Consensus, but we fail to deal with tendentious editing that violates that that policy. In short, I think we need a consensus policy with balls. --Merzul 18:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)