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Patrick Alexander (cartoonist)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Patrick Alexander (cartoonist). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. DollyD 11:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of article Pingfu

If Pingfu can be deleted for blatant advertising, why isnt HTTP-Tunnel, the company deleted for the same reason? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickolas Nickleby (talkcontribs) 19:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is not about the content, it is about the way it is written. HTTP tunnel (software) (which does need some work) is written neutrally and describes why they are used and how they work. PingFu on the other hand, while it did describe the software, described why the software should be used, which is not allowed. Mr.Z-man 21:11, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That still doesnt answer the question. The article HTTP-Tunnel(company) is written with exactly the same problems that you are talking about —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickolas Nickleby (talkcontribs) 18:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No it isn't and its not really possible for it to be. HTTP tunnel (software) is about a "technique by which communications performed using various network protocols are encapsulated using the HTTP protocol" -ie. something that can be done with software. PingFu is software. HTTP tunnel explains what an HTTP tunnel is. PingFu explained what PingFu does and why people should use it. Description=good, suggestion=bad. Feel free to rewrite it neutrally with facts from reliable sources other than the company website. Mr.Z-man 18:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quote - from HTTP Tunnel, a company page (Isnt this talking about why people should use it???? )

These are some common reasons for using HTTP-Tunnel:

   * Need to bypass any firewall
   * Need secure internet browsing
   * Need to use favorite programs with out being monitored by work, school, ISP or government.
   * Extra security for online transactions
   * Encrypt Internet traffic.
   * Need to play online games
   * Visit sites that you were previously blocked from accessing
   * Prevent 3rd party monitoring or regulation of your Internet browsing and downloads
   * Use your favorite applications previously blocked
   * Hide your IP address

Unquote —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickolas Nickleby (talkcontribs) 06:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lost your voice? Nickolas Nickleby 20:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Nickolas[reply]

Sorry, I just now realized you were not referring to HTTP tunnel (software) (which I've been referencing) but rather HTTP-Tunnel. Yes, there is a lot of promotional-looking material in it. I've tagged the page for deletion. If no one contests it, it will be deleted in 5 days. If someone does contest it without improving it, it will be nominated for WP:AFD. Mr.Z-man 20:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for looking into it - glad the confusion has been sorted out no thanks to me Nickolas Nickleby 17:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)Nickolas[reply]

RE: Northside High School Article

The one saying that I am like the moderator of the NHS Page is kind of a little thing to keep vandaliser's away. I do keep a look out for the NHS article because i am an alumni from there. But I am not imposing ownership on it. The reason I revert alot of the edits make to the NHS page lately is because people have been deleting encyclopedic material. Like the last change that was made they said that it was uncyclopedic material and that it was promotional, i undid that revision. Sorry if there was confusion and please message me if you have any more questions. have a great day! Chrismaster1 18:26, 5 September 2007


In addition, I saw the thing about me on the Wiki thing about vandalism. I posted the bitch slappin thing to get people to quit deleting stuff about the band. So that's why I said what I said to get people to stop deleting the band. By the way, If you happen to run into justtoletyouknow6 i think thats his name, tell him to send me a message. Chrismaster1 18:05, 6 September 2007

User warnings

Thanks for vandal fighting! Please don't skip templates when warning vandals, though. Jumping from 1 to 4 doesn't help anything. In order to be blocked, users must have the 4 warnings, in most all cases, so it's counter-productive to skip any. Regards, LaraLove 03:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They don't have to have all 4 warnings. They just have to have vandalized past a final warning or their vandalism has to be especially bad. I never use the level 1 warnings unless it is clearly a test edit. Replacing a page with something like "YOUZ ALL SUCK NOOBS!!!!BAN ME" is not a test edit. I warn based on how bad the vandalism is. Mr.Z-man 12:52, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, you'd need to use vandal1.
WP:AIV states "The vandal is active now, has received a proper set of warnings, and has vandalized after a recent last warning, except in unusual circumstances."
If vandals haven't been adequately warned, (four warnings from my experience), the admins won't block. It sends a weird message when the warnings go from gentle to harsh and either back to gentle or repetitive because the warnings are skipped. Regards, LaraLove 15:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Proper set of warnings does not necessarily mean 4. There is no policy that says vandals are entitled to 4 warnings. The first level assumes good faith, the second has no faith assumption; if somebody repeatedly vandalizes or puts in exceptionally offensive vandalism (racist, sexist, personal attacks etc) we should not "continue to assume good faith in the presence of evidence to the contrary." From WP:VAND: There are several templates used to warn vandals. They are listed at right in order of severity, but need not be used in succession. also If the vandal is obvious and persistent, list them at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism so that an admin can consider whether to block the vandal. Mr.Z-man 15:10, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen so many reports at AIV get rejected because there weren't four warnings. A couple of mine when I first started vandal fighting, and I've never reported someone that didn't obviously deserve a block. More admins need your pov on the matter. LaraLove 15:14, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Really? I've always thought I was too light on vandals compared to other admins. I've seen a few admins give blocks in places that I decided not to. Usually the only reason reports are turned down is because the vandal has not been active in a while, has not vandalized since getting his last warning, or they were never given a level 4 (or even a level 3) warning. Mr.Z-man 17:15, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps it was the time frame. I recall the first I reported had made some vandal edits the previous month. He already had two warnings from then. Someone skipped the third and gave him the fourth, so I reported to AIV when he made another vandal edit and it was rejected for not having the full set of warnings. Soon after that, I reported someone that had only the third and fourth warning and that one was rejected as well. They had a lot of vandal edits, but only the two warnings. Since then, I only report if they have the full set. Maybe I should just start going for it and see how it goes now. LaraLove 03:41, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hardblock removal

Thanks for removing the block that was keeping me out yesterday, Mr Z-man. Can you tell me why being logged in didn't get me around what I assume was a complete block of all editing originating from that IP?

Also, in case you're interested, your user page has a bunch of section edit links riding over the Finished projects/Other section (when I look at it in Firefox 2; when I looked at it in IE, there were no edit links anywhere on the page). I can post a screenshot here if you like. -Eric (talk) 12:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that the IP was blocked with the "anon. only" setting turned off, which would block the IP and anyone using it. I know the problem with my userpage, I'm still working that one out (its just sort of at the bottom of my to-do list). Mr.Z-man 12:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, that makes sense--I had an aha moment just now at the desk of a colleague who was not logged in; the block displayed with the "anon only" text this time. Thanks again! -Eric (talk) 13:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RFA Thanks

Interesting to read your reply and CZmarlin's reply to this individual's questions. Each of you is saying the other one is responsible for the deletion/reverting back to the stub form of the article. So what is it?

Daniel Morris —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.180.150.55 (talk) 23:52, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I brought it to the stub form as opposed to deleting it as spam. See here. I don't see where CZmarlin claims to have done this, in fact he says "It was another editor (Mr.Z-man) that decided to remove the edits that were at fault on 22:31, 21 August 2007. It was their decision to trim back the article to just the basic facts." Also, as you seem to work for Discount Tire (its where your IP address resolves to), you may want to read Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline before making further edits to the article. Mr.Z-man 01:32, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Touching base

How are things going with Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-05-03 Cults and new religious movements in literature and popular culture? Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Be well! Vassyana 22:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its actually been inactive for a while now. I think one or both parties may no longer be interested in mediation. There has been almost no discussion. I'm debating whether or not to close the case (nothing was really resolved).
No problem. Thanks for the update. :) Vassyana 23:09, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- So a while ago I reported this I.P. for off-topic discussion on article discussion pages. This time he's done it again: [1], [2], and finally here [3] . What do you recommend? Another warning? Take care, ScarianTalk 03:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Warned again. I'm really hesitant to block for this, but it is borderline disruptive. Mr.Z-man 03:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, of course. Thanks for warning again. I guess he is a sufferer of that I.P. bug that can't pick up messages. I suppose all that we can do is just revert his topic posts hoping [long-shot] that he'll notice and pack it in. Thanks again. ScarianTalk 03:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mordred

I was wondering why you deleted the article I made about the band Mordred. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Orthodox41 (talkcontribs) 05:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article failed the WP:CSD#A7 speedy deletion criteria. All it said was that Mordred was a Thrash metal band from San Francisco. It gave no indication of notability. There was no chart listing, no concert ticket sales info, no album sales info, no reviews. There was nothing that distinguished it from other bands. You said on the talk page that the German Wikipedia had an article for it. I can't read German to tell if their article is better, but it looks about the same. The German Wikipedia is editable by all as well, so it is not a reliable source or an indicator of notability. They most likely have different standards and it is possible that that article fails their standards and no one has yet caught it. If the band is in fact notable, and you can establish that with reliable sources, feel free to recreate the article. Mr.Z-man 16:05, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Echo 429 Productions

Mr.Z-man i would like you to un-delet this wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_429_productions because it is a wiki for a productions company. if you decide to keep it deleted you would have to delet every productions companys wiki to be fair. thank you and good day sir. Superfryman 21:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why that would be fair. Companies such as Paramount Pictures are a lot more notable. Please see WP:CSD#A7, the article you wrote did not assert why it was notable. See also WP:NOT, WP:NFT, WP:CORP, and WP:NFT, which all seem to apply in this case. Persistently recreating it won't help either. Mr.Z-man 22:48, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see were you are coming from but please keep it's wiki up. I am asking you in the kindest way to let it stay up. it is currently in the process of being a offical USA company and then calling it a group would be defunct. also paramont is a studio not a production company (at least i think so) Superfryman 23:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but it fails too many policies for me to undelete it. If you want to continue to try to undelete it, you will have to state your case at deletion review. Mr.Z-man 23:13, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

what policies is it failing? also can I just remake the page? Superfryman 23:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion criterion A7 and most likely What Wikipedia is not. It also fails the notability guideline for companies. If you can be sure it is inline with policies (also including Verifiability, Neutral Point of View, and Reliable sources) you can recreate it. Also, if you worked for the company, you may want to review the conflict of interest guideline as well. Mr.Z-man 23:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

mr.ziman what you said on my talk page sounded like a threat. i am not so shore if you care on whom i am. i can be a good allie and a powerful enemy. i will go through the deletion prosses thingy but be wared if you ever theraten me again you will be very sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superfryman (talkcontribs) 02:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care who you are. If you continue to blatantly violate policy after being warned to stop, I or any other admin would be well within our rights to block you. Mr.Z-man 02:39, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ok, i feel as though it was not given a fair chance though just because you do not know about us does not mean we are not important Superfryman 02:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Echo 429 productions. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Superfryman 19:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC) here is a list of 63 people who say Echo 429 productions does in fact exist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sig1.jpg and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sig2.jpg Superfryman 22:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Though I cannot see what the content of this article was, I think you went a bit quickly to delete it. The "Association amicale des amateurs d'andouillette authentique" is really notorious in France (the corresponding article on :fr gives quite a number of details) and all but a joke.

Its label is often seen on menus in French restaurants with no special explanations : for a Frenchman (at least a reasonably affluent one visiting upper-range restaurants) the label is well-known (a random example on this page - as you can note, no explanation was deemed as necessary by the advertisment writer). This article should not have been deleted, and certainly should not have been speedy deleted, and I come to your Talk page to beg for its reinstalment. Thanks for your attention. French Tourist 22:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I could tell it was not a joke and I was aware of the French article. However, different Wikipedias have different policies and an article on one does not guarantee an article on every other. The French one is quite well developed. However, the article here provided 2 sentences of content. One saying what AAAAA stood for and then "This is a society of lovers of authentic andouillettes, a sausage made from pig stomach or intestine.[4]" It then provided a link to a forum about tripe sausage. This is not enough for an article here. If you want to rewrite the article so it fits en.Wikipedia's notability guideline and has some reliable sources, feel free to do so. (but please give it a title of "Association amicale des amateurs d'andouillette authentique", not "AAAAA".) A translation of the French article may be adequate. Mr.Z-man 23:06, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks I discovered the subtleties of "A7" speedy deletion rules... I don't intend to ask for a review of your wise conclusion (and not to write an article either, my English is not good enough and I am not especially interested in andouillettes - I had happened to discover this speedy deletion by a visit at RfD. Best regards. French Tourist 23:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I too would also like to know for what specific reasons did our page not meet the guidelines. I'm part of echo429 and was there when we managed to get those 60 signatures in one lunch period, that's not small accomplishment at our school. I agree with staerblader that if you are to delete our production's wiki, you might as well be fair to delete all the others. does that seem like a good idea? sincerely viper1213

Hi Zman, You recently protected the above mentioned, template due to some edit war going on in the template, the conflict was based on the national flag of Sri Lanka that was on the template. The user who requested the protection, made the request after the template was altered to their desired look (which is without the flag). The national flag of Sri Lanka had been on the template since the day it was created, I can attest to this as the creator of the template. There was never consensus to remove the image and I don't see any effort put towards fair and meaningful consensus building, the participation was only by four users, two opposing the image and two endorsing it. The Sri Lankan conflict template is a very important template that covers many articles which are highly contentious. I kindly request you to reconsider the protection of the template or restore the image as it was until consensus is built. Thanks in advance NëŧΜǒńğerPeace Talks 08:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Changing it now would be continuing the edit war as a proxy. Admins protect in whatever the current version is when they get there, which is always the Wrong version for someone. From what you say, there is no consensus to have no image, but it also sounds like there is no longer consensus to restore the image either. Mr.Z-man 12:53, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question...

I saw that you removed the page "Avalia". Would there be a way for me to view the page before it was deleted? I know some people in the band, and I know who created the page, so I have in interest in the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fallaway6554 (talkcontribs) 15:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you specify and authenticate an email address in your preferences, I can email you a copy of the text. Note that if you know people in the band, you may have a conflict of interest and the article needs to assert (and preferably prove) notability if it to be recreated. Mr.Z-man 16:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fallaway6554 (talkcontribs) 20:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

For taking care of that Seattle reign history move so quickly! I gave the editor a few days to post it, but I also didn't want to wait too long, so I hope I was not hasty in reporting it. I've spoken to the editor, who realizes the mistake and has promised he'll remember for the future. Thanks again! ArielGold 13:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, easy ones like that are no problem, just report as you find them. Mr.Z-man 13:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protecting Llama

Hello, thank you for placing the semi-protect tag on the Llama article. It is a favorite among anon-IPs and kids to vandalize. BTW - I tried to use your "leave a comment" button and I probably created a wierd looking comment or article within WP. This comment was made by editing this page. --BlindEagletalk~contribs 15:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you warned User:86.31.144.104 for vandalism for that supposed malicious undo that they did, however, I couldn't help but notice that they might have tried to redo to this edit, instead of having malicious desires to redo a vandalized version of the page. Please think about this, being a former anon myself, I hate to see an anon's good intentions (if they were good) go to waste. --əˈnongahy ♫Look What I've Done!♫ 19:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its possible, but as they already had one warning for vandalism on the same page, I assumed it was vandalism. Mr.Z-man 19:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bald Eagle

I did not vandalise Bald Eagle. My edit was perfectly in order. Please check before making accusations. Thanks. 86.31.144.104 19:43, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please check the page and the diff to make sure what you are reverting to is good. This is not good and is considered vandalism. If you were trying to be helpful, please be more careful in the future when reverting. Mr.Z-man 19:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Someone else had added the rubbish between my edits and reverts, so it got carried forward. Hopefully it's getting sorted out. The problem stems from another anon reverting my original, and perfectly valid, uncontentious edit. 86.31.144.104 19:58, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Again...

[5] - Non-article improvement related discussion from him again. Just thought I'd give you the heads up. Sorry to disturb you. ScarianTalk 01:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merci pour le message de bienvenue!

Hello my friend! Thank you very much for the message of welcomes! I am really happy with this greeting! I promise to do great editions here in the wiki! Thank you!Abumerhy msg 09:55pm sep,25. 2007 (UTC)

Oklahoma City Crosstown

I am creating a wikipage on the Oklahoma City Crosstown for a class project. I noticed that you have locked it for editing. If you have any comments or suggestions I would appreciate them.

Gouldie64 03:53, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oklahoma City Crosstown

I see LOTS of typos, grammatical errors, etc... I would appreciate the opportunity to correct these. I'll check back in the morning and see if you are still editing.

-Gouldie

68.227.103.67 03:58, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock?

You sure about the unblock of Shawnpoo (talk · contribs)? The rationale for unblocking was extremely weak, and from the username to contributions I fail to see what this editor adds to Wikipedia... Deiz talk 06:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Except that all of their contribs before Sept. 27 did not appear to be vandalism; it was not a vandalism only account and it fit with their reason for unblocking. If that really is the reason there was vandalism from that account, it would be impossible to give a better reason without lying. His talk page is on my watchlist and I will reblock if there is any more vandalism. Mr.Z-man 14:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My humps

I'm sorry sir, but the including of the My Farts parody from YouTube is not considered vandalism. Do not remove it from the article. If the Oops! I did it again article could have a similar parody, I don't see why this can't be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The fifth burning bush (talkcontribs) 10:20, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It can't be included because it is just a YouTube video. There are probably hundreds of similar videos. Its not vandalism, but it does not belong in the article. There's a huge difference between parodies on television or by real music artists and videos on the internet. Just because it is in one article does not mean it should be in another, it means it should be kept out of both. Mr.Z-man 14:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tales of Phantasia

On August 4th, you protected "Tales of Phantasia" due to one user's multiple vandalism of it over the course of the previous day. The user has since moved on, and the 'edit war' was simply other users reverting the page. I don't feel it needs to remain protected. --Unnatural20 12:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unprotected. But the edit war I was referring to was not the vandalism reversion, but rather edits like this. Mr.Z-man 14:35, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Shawnpoo

Hello!

I wouldn't be surprised that User:Lordofwar. It is okay to give Shawnpoo a chance, since Lordofwar is the main responsible of the problems. I've blocked Lordofwar indefinitely for his troubles since he may be the one who did this edit under the Shawnpoo account in the Hong Kong article (not to mention the creation of this now salted article and since he uploaded thisJForget 16:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I saw that image (unfortunately) and deleted it. Mr.Z-man 16:58, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the free use image available is from 2005 and is far to dated, there is not real reason to keep removing these images, they have all been released for public use by the band, and there is no reason they should not be in the article. Why would there be an option on wikipedia to upload images if they didn't want people to, by being one of the many wikipedians that constantly go through articles removing images your ultimately just adding to how bad wikipedia is coming through over obsessed users, i am sorry that this isn't exactly a nice way to put it but i think it is stupid how the guidelines for images have always been the same but users keep changing there interpretation of it. I know ultimately i will loose this argument but still. (LemonLemonLemons 15:03, 28 September 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Allright, sorry.

Okay. I will only use proper english from now on. But I am just a kid so I may not know how to spell some words. --Mr. Comedian 16:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message. I have no personal stake in the article, and have no opinion one way or the other on this individual. I only happened to notice the changes when I was looking at the Recent changes page, and decided to take a look. All I am saying is that I have no personal or ideological axe to grind. I just want to see the article improved---which is to say, I want to see it turned into a real article with properly-cited information. Thanks for taking on the issue. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 19:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am becoming increasingly uncomfortable working on this article . Additions are still being made that reference personal websites/blogs, and actually unless some of this material is translated by a good translator, and or if the books have not been read and referenced somewhere there is no way of telling if allegations are true. Is there a troll at work here? I do not consider myself to be a particularly experienced editor in terms of this kind of thing, so I am not really going to be able to much with this article. Just thought I'd mention concerns.(olive 23:46, 1 October 2007 (UTC))[reply]
The best solution would be to bring it up on the talk page for discussion. Mr.Z-man 23:54, 1 October 2007(UTC)
Thanks very much for reply - A good and obvious solution somewhat complicated by editors who don't sign, whose English is probably a second language, and so difficult to know who they are addressing. At any rate have to move on .... just got involved to edit syntax but very busy.Best wishes.(olive 14:19, 2 October 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Can I make a suggestion? Do you think move protecting the same pages that this editor is notorius for moving (i.e. World Wrestling Entertainment, World Wrestling Entertainment roster, Playstation 3, etc.) are worth it if it drives him away from page moving? I honestly don't think any conflicts can arise from doing so and most of the pages he is moving are long established under the name they are currently under. — Moe ε 03:15, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It could help. I'll put a few weeks of move protection on some. Hopefully it will be a deterrent and he won't just go to other articles. Since there is no conceivable reason why they should be moved, it won't hurt. Mr.Z-man 03:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good deal. I'll let you know if there are some repeat targets if he starts moving again. — Moe ε 03:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've done Rubeus Hagrid, PlayStation 2, World Wrestling Entertainment, and Hermione Granger. PlayStation 3 and World War II were move protected by other admins. Mr.Z-man 03:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've complied a list of page moves he performed at User:Moe Epsilon/Grawp. I believe protecting World Wrestling Entertainment roster‎ (moved 5 times), Anarchism (moved 5 times) and 2006 FIFA World Cup‎ (moved 4 times) would be beneficial as these are the most suspect targets for him. — Moe ε 04:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, didn't realize World Wrestling Entertainment roster‎ was already move protected as well. Thanks for all you're help. — Moe ε 04:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, those three are now move protected, I'll look over the rest of the list a little more later; my internet connection is acting up now. I know at least one admin is watching the move logs now after the last incident and it the page moves made an alert on the vandalism IRC channel as well. I also plan to look at the user creation logs; to move pages accounts have to be 4 days old. Mr.Z-man 04:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Contents

I edited my user page, how do I add contents to it? Agtaz 19:11, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean a table of contents, either create a few more section headers or add __FORCETOC__ to the top of the page. Mr.Z-man 20:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Agtax *Callin' pin* | *Contributions* 20:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

128.112.139.195

Hi. Could you take a look at User talk:128.112.139.195? looks like a range block with some collateral damage. Sandstein 22:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocked the range. Mr.Z-man 22:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ney article

I don't really have an interest in the Ney article, I found it while on anti-vandal patrol and noticed quite a few violations of WP:BLP which needed to be removed immediately. And wow, I didn't realize we could override WP:3RR and institute a 1RR rule for an entire article. That's pretty cool! As you pointed out, I didn't think the limited edit warring warranted either protection or a block - but your solution to limit the article to 1RR sounds good to me. I attempted to locate an editor who spoke French to take a look at the article because all the references were in that language. In any case, I'll leave the article in your capable hands, but let me know if I can be of any assistance! Dreadstar 05:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Grawp moving

The following articles probably need to be protected from Grawp moves: 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake (3), United Kingdom‎ (2) and Lord Voldemort‎ (2). Most of the articles he's ever moved so far are now protected from moving except ones he hit sporadically. — Moe ε 21:20, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Crapware.jpg

How is this image not fair use? It is low-res, it illustrates the subject in question (Crapware), and no free alternatives exist.SteveSims 01:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My Block Log

Hi Z-man, Could you kindly leave a comment on my block log saying it was a mistake as per WP:BP#Recording_in_the_block_log, I know you have apologized in my talk page and it is recorded in the ANI discussion as well, but just in case, could you also leave a comment. Thanks NëŧΜǒńğerPeace Talks 07:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry to trouble you with this, what are the implications of a dummy block? if thats normally done I don't mind as long as it records the event. NëŧΜǒńğerPeace Talks 13:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks mate, please go ahead and do it. NëŧΜǒńğerPeace Talks 00:28, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks NëŧΜǒńğerPeace Talks 01:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not make edits like [6]. The article was deleted because it consisted of nothing but an infobox, not because it's not a worthy subject. --NE2 06:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The page I deleted was a redirect to a page that did not exist. If people checked why the target to every broken redirect was deleted and then checked every backlink to make sure it was not appropriate, it would take days to delete all the hundreds of broken redirects. If an article can be written on the subject, feel free to re add the link. Mr.Z-man 15:46, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you shouldn't remove backlinks if you're not sure if they should exist. --NE2 00:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I adjusted my settings for Twinkle not to remove links for R1. Mr.Z-man 01:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. --NE2 02:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thanks for catching the image vandalism on my talk page, I was busy reverting all the other instances, lol. I appreciate your quick response! ArielGold 18:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

adopt me

can you adopt me

Dillio411 00:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki interface

Z-man, sorry to bother you, but you seem smart on the MediaWiki interface...where would I go to suggest that the Wikipedia upload wizard automatically include a blank {{Information}} template in the upload wizard, the way that the Commons upload wizard does? I think this will cut down on some of our image copyright problems. Thanks for any guidance you can point to! Videmus Omnia Talk 17:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is accomplished using commons:MediaWiki:Upload.js. I'm told (and found through testing) that one would need to do more than just copy it to a MediaWiki page of the same name here. You'd need someone more familiar with JavaScript and our upload system (preferably the commons upload system too). You might want to ask on WP:VPT and perhaps somewhere on commons too. Mr.Z-man 20:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Lowering standards

Regarding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fictional elements, materials, isotopes and atomic particles, you hit the nail right on the head. I had just finished posting a smiliar comment when yours came across. Glad to know I'm not off in left field here. Thanks. /Blaxthos 16:56, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hidden Barnstar Page to hard or to easy

Can you find my Hidden Barnstar Page??--Dillio411 18:04, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please take a look at the comments by this user regarding my block at Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Netmonger/UserBoxes/Terrorism, your comments there is much appreciated. NëŧΜǒńğerPeace Talks 06:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Z-man, I was asked to intervene and noticed your previous involvement in the matter and thought you might be best to know what's going on and how to handle it. Let me know if you need my assistance, though...I'm always happy to give a shot at mediation.... Dreadstar 07:15, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'd rather not stay involved in this. Mr.Z-man 14:33, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I totally and completely understand.... Dreadstar 16:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you're interested, [7]. Dreadstar 19:26, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ack! Never mind!. Nice rant..one I can agree with..;) Dreadstar 19:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How long did you protect WP:NOR? It has been nearly two weeks, which is an unusually long time for a dispute protection. Dhaluza 12:20, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is the dispute resolved? As it has quite an extensive protection log for disputes (especially recently) I did not set an expiration time. Mr.Z-man 14:34, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Deletion of article Keyhole (band)

The article was about Tampa-based band Keyhole. The reason for deletion was certifying the importance of the band? This is a newer Central Fl based band but already one of the more well-known industrial acts in Central FL, opening for such national acts as Marazene and Sister Kill Cycle & receiving radio airplay. The article didn't express opinions and was just a statements of facts. Why was it deleted? Much lesser-known bands have wikis with no contesting or deletions. Badmunchkin 00:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)Badmunchkin[reply]

Neither Marazene nor Sister Kill Cycle have articles here, so that does not help your case. Please see Wikipedia:Notability (music) for the notability criteria for bands as well as Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Many radio stations have local music programs, so just saying "radio play" is not good enough either. If other articles for less notable bands exist, please point me to them so I can delete them as well. Mr.Z-man 00:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About the sexual harassment incident

Mr. Z-man, thanks for setting me straight. Bwjs 14:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC)