Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/August 2007
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This is an archive of discussions from Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals for the month of August 2007. Please move completed August discussions to this page as they occur, add discussion headers to each proposal showing the result, and leave incomplete discussions on the Proposals page. After August, the remainder of the discussions will be moved to this page, whether stub types have been created or not.
Those who create a stub template/cat should be responsible for moving the discussion here and listing the stub type in the archive summary.
Stub proposers please note: Items tagged as "nocreate" or "no consensus" are welcome for re-proposal if and when circumstances are auspicious.
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- {{sfp other}} (for no consensus)
- {{sfp top}} for customized result description (use {{sfp top|result}}).
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Hesperiidae-stub
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Hi, I'm proposing a stub for family Hesperiidae for WikiProject Lepidoptera. We have the following stubs already with us : butterfly (for generic articles), moth, nymphalidae, lycaenidae, pieridae and papilionidae. The only butterfly family left out is Hesperiidae. The hesperiidae articles use butterfly-stub as of now. There are about 446 butterfly stubs of which approx half belong to this family. This is the only family which doesnt have its own stub in butterflies. I already have 79 red-links in List of butterflies of India (Hesperiidae), List of butterflies of India (Hesperiinae) and List of butterflies of India (Pyrginae) lined up with many more to come. But amending later is a pain, so I propose that this stub be created before we start major work on hesperiids. I have made a draft template at {{hesperiidae-stub}}. Requesting a SPEEDY approval. Regards, AshLin 15:20, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- More than 200 articles and more to come? Speedy for both template and category. Valentinian T / C 15:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy, on the basis both of clear and present need, and existing pattern/completism grounds. Alai 17:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
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Upmerged template now used on 60 articles. I suggest speedy but I thought it better to relist this one, given that I accidentally mentioned a nonstandard name last time I brought this one up, see the section for Laos below. The name suggested here matches with the name of the permcat. Valentinian T / C 22:59, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy. Waacstats 23:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
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This template now has over 60 articles and should be deupmerged. Speedy? Waacstats 22:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Impressive. Speedy. Valentinian T / C 22:42, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
US Roads
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The result of the debate was create upmerged templates.
The purpose of creating these would be to place them on the state route articles of the different states. Stubs already exist for the other states, US Highways and Interstate Highways.
- {{Idaho-road-stub}}
- {{Louisiana-road-stub}}
- {{Maine-road-stub}}
- {{Mississippi-road-stub}}
- {{Montana-road-stub}}
{{New-Mexico-road-stub}}{{NewMexico-road-stub}}{{North-Dakota-road-stub}}{{NorthDakota-road-stub}}{{South-Dakota-road-stub}}{{SouthDakota-road-stub}}- {{Tennessee-road-stub}}
--Son 14:45, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Oppose, from what I see, none of these have over 30 articles in which they would be used on and, thus, are unnecessary. I'd also rather see the stubs use "road-stub" than "State-Highway/Route-stub", as using the state highway names restricts how wide-reaching the stub cat can be. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 17:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)I forgot about the possibility of creating only upmerged templates earlier. Must've slipped my mind. In any case, support upmerged templates, oppose separate categories until the minimum threshold is reached. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 01:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC)- Comment. I'm suggesting the creation of these to help organize a task force that would govern the remaining states that don't have state level task forces or WikiProjects. See User:Son/State Route task force (which is an early work in progress). I plan on working state-by-state (and hopefully with the help of others) to create more road articles. --Son 18:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Oppose, I agree with TMF. I would rather see quality articles be written outright rather than go stub-crazy here. master sonT - C 18:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Support to upmerge - Seeing the purpose of them, I can see the templates being created master sonT - C 22:02, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Support as upmerged templates only. There's clearly no need for separate categories as yet, but there's no problem with making the templates now - though they should be in line with the naming conventions (hence I have altered the original proposal slightly - hope you don;'t mind, Son!). Grutness...wha? 01:14, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
deupmerge 2 templates
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Category:Indian film stubs is on the oversize list. 2 upmerged templates with over 60 articles exist
- Category:Kannada-language film stubs fed by {{Kannada-film-stub}}
- Category:Telugu-language film stubs fed by {{Telugu-film-stub}}
also suggest a new upmerged template
Waacstats 22:23, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Suggest speedying the first two. I think the third might be viable in its own right: my count says there's 88 in the corresponding permcat, but a large number seems to be in other languages too, so it's a judgement call as to whether double-stubbing would be appropriate. Alai 23:03, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was create.
Proposal is to create a stub for the subject of water supply. Category:Water supply and its sub-categories like Category:Drinking water and Category:Water treatment together have many stub-class articles whose expansion would be helped by being better organized into a common stub type. The following are 70 appropriate articles. This new stub would be recommended to be a child of Category:Health stubs and Category:Urban studies and planning stubs. Please note that Template:Water-stub is already being used for Category:Water transport stubs.
- 1998 Klang Valley water crisis
- Akash Ganga
- Artesian aquifer
- Banks Pumping Plant
- Baoli
- Belmar Spring Water
- Bethany Reservoir
- Big Bend Water District
- Big Well (Kansas)
- Biscayne Aquifer
- Briones Reservoir
- Brisbane Water (utility)
- Cadillac Desert
- California State Water Project
- Clean Water Services
- Coliban water
- Cultural eutrophication
- Desalination in the United Kingdom
- Drinking water quality legislation of the United States
- GE Betz
- Grainger challenge
- Great Recycling and Northern Development Canal
- Hand pump
- Hartlepool Water
- Hippo water roller
- Jardine Water Purification Plant
- Johad
- Kelda Group
- Kwinana Desalination Plant
- Lithia water
- Loudoun County Sanitation Authority
- Meltwater
- Multiple-effect humidification
- Mythe Water Treatment Works
- Nanofiltration
- Nevada Irrigation District
- North West Water
- Northwest Florida Water Management District
- Northumbrian Water
- Oroville Dam
- Overdrafting
- Pennon Group
- Plumbosolvency
- Portsmouth Water
- Purified water
- Reverse osmosis plant
- Rotating biological contactor
- San Antonio Reservoir (Alameda County)
- San Francisco Water Department
- Santa Clara Valley Water District
- Screen filter
- Settling basin
- Solar humidification
- Solar Powered Desalination Unit
- South Bay Pumping Plant
- South West Water
- Southwest Florida Water Management District
- Spring box
- Standpipe (street)
- Sulfur water
- Tap water
- Three Valleys Water
- Treadle pump
- United Water
- Vapaire
- Village Level Operation and Maintenance (pumps)
- Washington Suburban Sanitary Commission
- Water Authority of Western Australia
- Water Sampling Stations
- Yorba Linda Water District
--Kurieeto 15:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Support the stub type - BTW, there are lots of dams and reservoirs in the struct-stubs and geo-stubs which could potentially be double-stubbed with this one, too (keeping the geo/struct type as a second template). I have some concerns about the name, though. You're right that water-stub is already in use, which is the main problem, since it isn't a good name for water transport. But if we moved it, a lot of people would think that water-stub would still be in use for it, so if we gave this water-stub, there'd be considerable mis-sorting. Watersupply-stub would be a little more in keeping with stub naming, I think, since we don't have a supply-stub. Grutness...wha? 00:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- Great, I've gone ahead and created {{watersupply-stub}} and will begin populating it. Kurieeto 00:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Central and South American schools
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The result of the debate was create upmerged templates.
In the school stubs category there are a lot of schools in Central or South America. Therefore I'm proposing a new stub category for Central and South American schools. If there are a lot of these stubs then it might be necessary to split them into 2 stub cats (one for Central, one for South). I've listed them separately for now in case that happens.
I am sorting these stubs into Central and South according to the Wikipedia entry for the country each school is in. Sorry if any of them are wrong. KZF 09:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
{{Central-South-America-Schools-stub}} (43 stubs)
- {{Central-America-school-stub}} (7 stubs)
- Academia Británica Cuscatleca
- American Nicaraguan School
- Colegio Centro América
- List of Schools in Nicaragua
- List of schools in Costa Rica
- Mayatan School
- St. John's College, Belize
- {{South-America-school-stub}} (36 stubs)
- ACCAS
- Academia Cotopaxi
- Anglo-Peruvian School
- Associação Escola Graduada de São Paulo
- Asunción Christian Academy
- Bishops' High School, Guyana
- COTIL
- Cochabamba Cooperative School
- Colegio Bernardo Valdivieso
- Colegio Nacional de Ushuaia
- Colegio Pestalozzi
- Colegio San Agustín
- Colegio San Pedro Claver
- Colégio Bandeirantes de São Paulo
- Colégio Bandeirantes de São Paulo
- Colégio Dom Amando (Santarém, Brazil)
- Colégio Notre Dame (Campinas)
- Colégio Pedro II (Rio de Janeiro)
- Colégio Santa Maria (São Paulo)
- Escuela Secundaria Técnica Química Industrial y Minera
- Instituto Abel
- Instituto Chaminade Marianistas
- International School of Monagas
- List of schools in Argentina
- List of schools in Brazil
- List of schools in Paraguay
- List of schools in Venezuela
- Mackenzie High School (Guyana)
- Martin Zapata High School
- Mission Ribas
- Nicaragua Christian Academy
- Pan American Christian Academy
- Queen's College, Guyana
- Santa Rosa Secondary School
- St Paul's School, Brazil
- Stella Maris College (Montevideo)
- The coding would most likely be
{{CentralAm-school-stub}} and {{SouthAm-school-stub}}, but it looks like we're nowhere near the number of articles needed for CentralAm. Is there a WikiProject for either of these areas? If so, support SouthAm for now. If not, upmerge template for SouthAm. Her Pegship (tis herself) 18:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- We don't generally scope things as South-and-Central-together (or as Latin America, etc), though the reasons for not doing so could stand some examination, in my view. At the very least, an upmerged template for both would seem appropriate. Alai 21:25, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, those shortened versions are much better! What about an overall Americas category, with North and South American schools as subcats (Central when there are enough articles to justify it)? KZF 10:24, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Now that, we have done on occasion. But again, due to numbers, it would be upmerged templates, rather than subcats. Alai 17:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, sorry to be a pain but I've tried to figure out for myself what upmerged templates are and had no luck :$ can someone point me towards a handy explanation? KZF (talk • contribs) 22:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- I went ahead and created the templates; articles tagged with them will currently fall into Category:School stubs, which is what "upmerging" means. Once we get 60+ articles tagged with either template we can create a separate category for them. Cheers, Her Pegship (tis herself) 23:24, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you! KZF (talk • contribs) 12:13, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- I went ahead and created the templates; articles tagged with them will currently fall into Category:School stubs, which is what "upmerging" means. Once we get 60+ articles tagged with either template we can create a separate category for them. Cheers, Her Pegship (tis herself) 23:24, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, sorry to be a pain but I've tried to figure out for myself what upmerged templates are and had no luck :$ can someone point me towards a handy explanation? KZF (talk • contribs) 22:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Now that, we have done on occasion. But again, due to numbers, it would be upmerged templates, rather than subcats. Alai 17:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- We don't group the Americas as one unit in other context, and we don't normally group Central and South America together. No problem with upmerged templates for either region ({{CentralAm-school-stub}} and {{SouthAm-school-stub}} respectively) but oppose the other suggestions. Valentinian T / C 12:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Deupmerging of Czech geos
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User:Darwinek has been busy moving articles to the new upmerged Czech regional geo-stub templates, and at least two are now at the stage where they can be de-upmerged:
- {{CentralBohemia-geo-stub}} - Category:Central Bohemian Region geography stubs (about 80 stubs)
- {{SouthBohemia-geo-stub}} - Category:South Bohemian Region geography stubs (about 80 stubs)
There are still quite a few stubs in the main Czech geo-stub category to sort, and it's possible that several other regions will also reach threshold. The following are getting close:
- {{HradecKrálové-geo-stub}} - 55 stubs (Category:Hradec Králové Region geography stubs)
- {{ÚstíNadLabem-geo-stub}} - 50 stubs
- {{SouthMoravia-geo-stub}} - 48 stubs
- {{Vysočina-geo-stub}} - 47 stubs
- {{Olomouc-geo-stub}} - 46 stubs
We'll need to keep an eye on these as the sorting continues, but for now, I'd suggest speedying the first two, and possibly doing the same for Hradec Králové. Grutness...wha? 00:48, 8 August 2007 (UTC) Template:Sfd bottom
Split of Category:Film director stubs
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The result of the debate was create.
Oversize category, the following should help
- Category:Canadian film director stubs / {{Canada-film-director-stub}}
- Category:French film director stubs / {{France-film-director-stub}}
- Category:Indian film director stubs / {{India-film-director-stub}}
- Category:Japanese film director stubs / {{Japan-film-director-stub}}
- Category:Asian film director stubs / {{Asia-film-director-stub}}
- Category:European film director stubs / {{Europe-film-director-stub}}
- Category:South American film director stubs / {{SouthAm-film-director-stub}} and {{Argentina-film-director-stub}}
Waacstats 21:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Good plan, support. For the continental ones, I suggest as many upmerged by-country templates as people have the patience to create. Alai 17:41, 11 August 2007 (UTC)