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Service award

Well, looks like you are the target of harassment. In an effort to brighten your day, I award you this service award. While your edit count qualifies you as a Journeyman editor, you are still just over a month shy of 6 months service, so I hereby give you this Apprentice editor award. There are alternate versions on the service awards page, and you are entitled to put whichever variant you like best on your user page.

Cheers, GlassFET 16:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Caduceus edits

Thanks for your help tidying this up! Owain.davies 12:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I've just changed on of your edits as the article was already referenced as an in-line citation. I've also moved the others down to 'further reading'. When i get a chance i'll go cak and make them all in to inline citations Owain.davies 12:44, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I award you...

a minor barnstar! For excellent work on the repetitive and sometimes tedious business of tidying pages up.

		The Minor Barnstar
		You deserve this for all you hard work on repetitive tasks and rigour in cleaning up articles! Owain.davies 17:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Banned user editing Copt

Hello IPSOS! Thanks for opening the case on the recent sockpuppet activity in Copt. You should know that this is a known banned user. Please see my note [1] on ANI. — Zerida 21:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Wanted to update you that most of the accounts have been blocked. Thanks for keeping that article on your watchlist. Cheers, — Zerida 23:23, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Reply

Hello, and thanks for your concern. I realise that what I'm doing is very annoying, but I'm copying the hieroglyphs table into the simple english wikipedia. To do that, I have to subst the templates since they aren't on simple english wikipedia. I'm reverting it after I'm done to make sure my changes are undone. Again, thanks for your concern, --Isis4563(talk) 17:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I really don't want to copy the templates into the Simple english wikipedia. It doesn't really change the article any, so why not do it in the article? --Isis4563(talk) 17:59, 7 July 2007 (UTC) PS. Thanks for telling me about my sig. I copied it from my account where my name is isis so it linked to the user named isis here. It's fixed now.

There's not really that many articles that need the template, which is why I don't want to copy it. And I wouldn't change the template unless there was a change on this wikipedia, which I don't think will happen. I'm alomst done with it, anyway. --Isis4563(talk) 18:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Alright, guess I have to now. :) --Isis4563(talk) 18:15, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Chicen Itza

Hi. (I don´t speak english.) The articles about the new 7 wonders mention in the first lines that they have been choosed as a new wonder. I think the article Chichen Itzá must have that line too. --200.66.45.193 06:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

My opinion: It shouldn't be mentioned in the first lines of any of them, and the push by some to do so seems more an attempt to popularize the list than to emphasize the status of the sites. Put the mention in a trivia section, and state that the site was chosen as one of New Open World Corporation's list of New Seven Wonders of the World. Not "the" New Seven Wonders - there are other lists.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanyo (talk • contribs)

I pretty much agree with that, except the part about the trivia section. Articles shouldn't have trivia sections, so adding to them should be discouraged. IPSOS (talk) 14:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

It is your opinion that honey is derogatory. Perhaps in America, it might be. But not everyone lives in the 'land of opportuinity'. I am not trying to be rude at all. Only sweet. Nikkul 14:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

And what standards are set by English speaking countries? Who executes these standards? Who makes these standards? Who is going to tell me when i have crossed these standards? There is more than one country in this world that speaks english and where i live, honey is said sweet. please dont tell me what standards to follow especially when i was only trying to be nice. This is a global encyclopedia and words mean different things in different places. Please keep that in mind. Nikkul 14:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Your warning message on my talk page

Further following up your warning on my talk page, can I request you to let me know, when I called Danniella a vandal where as my statement was WP:3RR is vandalism? Let me know if 3RR is not vandalism and moreover I didn't report her on 3RR although I found it earlier (you can check her talk page for that). I think I have made my point clear that I am explaining things here on good faith with you too. I hope the same back and from next time please look into the matter deeper before saying that someone is working on bad faith. Cheers ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 15:05, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism report

3RR violations that are not vandalism need to be reported to WP:AN/3RR (with supporting evidence provided), not at AIV. Daniel Case 16:58, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Upon further investigation, I'd take this to WP:AN/I as well since you seem to suspect that user of being a sockpuppet. Daniel Case 17:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, if it's a content dispute (which it seems to be from the diffs), it isn't vandalism (should be better implied by the template at the top of the page). Daniel Case 17:03, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Edit comments

Talk page usage isn't necessary for obvious violations of WP policy if that can be pointed out in an informative edit comment. Hornplease 20:49, 8 July 2007 (UTC) About Sheila Chandra more precisely, please note that we need self-identification. A generalised reference to spirituality and Nada Brahma is insufficient. (John Tavener could be classified as Hindu according to that.) Hornplease 20:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

hi there! thanks for the tips about external links, I just was so focused in bringing the article Machu Picchu to a better quality, like on the other versions (I forgot the layout). I would like you to assist me with the New Seven Wonders of the world, a User DaniellaWB has reverted my editions with the the argument that a consensus has been reached at the NSW talk page. I have spent more than an hour looking for that consensus, the conversation is long and tedious but I have digested almost all of it, I still don't see any consensus at all about this subject, rather than one user is answering all the questions and determined what is right or wrong, it seems. could you please illuminated me? DanniellaWG seems to be very determined to delete or revert anything that contradicts her position, against this denomination of the seven wonders. While I am listening, viewing and reading it almost in every possible media everywhere. Well, I think you can explain me something over this issue, because I want to know another opinion over this regard. Thanks. No rush. John Manuel-01:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Alright then, thanks I will leave it as is. John Manuel-01:51, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Not sure about the reasoning...

I prodded Sodalitas because there's no sources to be found. If it's not notable (as in it doesn't meet WP:N outside of its HOGD connection, I would posit that maybe it shouldn't have its own article, and should maybe get a few sentences in the main article instead (which is my feeling on a lot of the other rosicrucian splinter groups). MSJapan 23:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

My concern is notability, though, because some of them have only been around for a few years, and many of them are splinters. The Masonic articles have a similar problem, especially with "Internet-only"-type groups. They may exist, but then again, there may only be six people in them, so I don't think existence alone merits an article. MSJapan 02:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Help Request

Hello IPSOS I am hoping you may be able to offer some assistance. I recently created an article that was marked for speedy deletion by an editor citing recreation of deleted material. The article had the same name as an earlier one which had been deleted (albeit admittedly quite rightly in that case) last month by a certain someone that I suspect is not entirely unbiased in their opinions. Perhaps not surprisingly the same editor is involved in instigating the current deletion process. I am seeking help of some sympathetic and non-biased wikipedia content editors to assist me in better understanding the review process and perhaps assist by offering their time to review and comment on the deleted page. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Yogidude 14:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

External Links

Welcome to wikipedia!!

Please visit the websites (twipra.com , tripurasociety.org)and understand that they are informational websites maintained by well known Tripuri organisations. They were added long time back and i dont see any issue in their validity in the article.

Hope you have a nice stay in wikipedia!! Enjoy wiki-ing.

Bdebbarma 09:33, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:New Seven Wonders

Template:New Seven Wonders has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --Joopercoopers 11:12, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Sahaj Marg page

Dear IPSOS,

THANKS for your keen attention to the Sahaj Marg page. My heart began to sank when I saw everything from the stub began to be changed again and I was glad to see your edits.

Please note that the Sahaj Marg stub was meant to describe a meditation practice, and the Shri Ram Chandra Mission page, was meant to describe the two groups. So instead of the disambiguation page, I think this page already exists for that purpose.

(Both are actually called the Shri Ram Chandra Mission, and the Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation is a subset of one. Also, the court case Mr. Pandey refers to has been won in lower courts by the Shri Ram Chandra Mission of Chennai (the one he's against) and the SRCM-Shahjahanpur is appealing that verdict (you'll see we didn't specify that in the article, we just said neutrally that there are court cases).

If possible, I ask that the page be reverted to the July 12th edition, or, just leave your first line stub, which is fine too.

Thanks, Renee --Renee 19:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Dear IPSOS,

Thanks for your note. I guess they could be called:

Shri Ram Chandra Mission - Chennai

and

Shri Ram Chandra Mission - Shahjahanpur

Will you delete the Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation site then?

Thanks again for your work on this.

Renee --Renee 19:37, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

p.s. Also, please note that a proposed stub for the Shri Ram Chandra Mission page is under discussion that will replace the text on this page. --Renee 19:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits

You have blanked the page, and no reason is given on talk page, kindly explain the reason for your recent edits, which section did you noticed to out of wiki scope ? --Shashwat pandey 19:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

i do not belong to any group, and there cannot be two page's as court order is not passed yet, once court gives its verdict one of the group will cease to exist. Kindly remove the new page that you have created. Renee has been doing this for quite some time, influenceing admin's. kindly go through her contrib's. Kindly note a mediation process is underway regarding the same page. lets not decide, and simply put that information what is available. --Shashwat pandey 20:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

There is no such entity as SRCM Channai ? it is california.

You got influnce by Renee's manipulative approach, kindly go through her crontribs you will notice same pattern of influncing admins.

pls refer [2] This site is owned and operated by Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM) a California non-profit corporation. you have created a page by name channei, there is no group registerd in channei, there is only one group in india that is UP another one is in USA. pls remove that page. and do not decide in haste--Shashwat pandey 20:09, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

• Please note that this SRCM-Chennai has it's headquarters in Chennai, India, and hence that's where even all of the mail goes to. We acknowledge in the article that it was registered in California (and actually, the court case disputes whether it is SRCM-Chennai or SRCM-Shahjahanpur who registered in 1945 in Shahjahanpur, but because that's under dispute it has been left out). The world headquarters of SRCM-Chennai is in Chennai, hence the appropriate name. Renee 20:19, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

e.g., please see the address at the bottom of the letterhead on this pamphlet:

http://www.srcm.org/members/meditation.pdf

Message

Dear IPSOS,

I saw your message on my page -- please let me know which page lost the wikilinks and I'll go back and fix it. Sorry! Renee --Renee 20:13, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Your Org ??

I do not understand your request where you have asked me to edit that page which organization i belong to ?? i do not belong to any group, i am simple researcher and am not involved in any of those group. why should i not edit any page on wiki, be it SRCM or any other topic, i am not aware of any such restriction, kindly point out any policy of wiki which allowe's only bonafied member's of a group can edit a wiki article. is there any such policy ? --Shashwat pandey 20:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

California

It is not channai but california, it is a non-profit organization based in USA, from where does channai comes into picture? can you provide any source which say's it is based or registered in India ? it has to be California and not channai if there is any need in the first place.

--Shashwat pandey 20:17, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

reason for your recent edit's on Sahaj Marg

You have not yet given any reason for your changes on the sahaj marg page, pls use article talk page for discussion and not any user page, it will help all editor's to see what's going on, kindly point out any ambigity you have noticed or any variation on wiki policy on any of the edits that you have changed, if there are none, then i would humbly request you to kindly revert your edit.

Thanks in advance.--Shashwat pandey 20:22, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

It is corporation based in california and not in india, kindly see the link i have provided, that edit was done by Renee, and she has history of POV abuse, in addition to influencing admin's. Kindly check such claims like registration details from primary source. The group is registered in USA and not in India, to give a wrong and false information this manipulation of being indian is used by the group member's. kindly refer to secondary source's as well (as in case of TM dispute) there also no-where Channai is mentioned but califonia is mentioned. pls remove that page.--Shashwat pandey 20:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Sahaj Marg

Both the group teach Sahaj Marg only, and their flavor is different, if you have to create different page, then you can create two pages for Sahaj Marg, as both claim to teach Sahaj Marg but their approach is absolutly different, i would suggest, let SRCM page be one, it can easily incorporate both the group's as of now, more-over in near future there will be only one SRCM, so in any case one of the page will have to be delated ultimatly.

Kindly create two Sahaj Marg page, one Sahaj Marg (California) and one Sahaj Marg (Shahjahanpur) that will solve the dispute altogather, both faction's can then add their teaching freely.--Shashwat pandey 20:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)