User:Vector Potential/HelpDesk(temp)

June 13

Intersect to categories

Is it possible to show the intersect of two categories? I am interested in Category:American_economists n Category:Nobel_laureates_in_Economics. Jann

Yes, with a customized Google search like this one. akuyume^T_C 09:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

• There's a tool called CatScan in one of the menus on my userpage that is made especially for this purpose. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Problems in Jeff Lawrence (unionist)

For some reason, this article doesn't show the reference list, the stub classification or the categories but when I go to edit it, the information is there. Can anyone help me as to what the problem it is? Capitalistroadster 11:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I have closed a ref.[1] PrimeHunter 11:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

member search

Is it possible to search members in Wikipedia by their usernames?

Yes: Go to Special:Listusers. Viridae^Talk 11:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

A PAGE ABOUT MY LIFE WAS DELETED- I DO NOT UNDERSTAND

Hello,

I'm very confused. About 4 months ago someone created a Wikipedia page about me and I was honored.

I checked it out. The Scary Guy is my legal name and that was the name used for this page about me.

I then signed up to make a few changes to make sure it was telling an accurate story.

It was deleted.

Everything on the page was real and is real about my life and who I am.

Help?

Will someone please explain to me why this action was taken?

thank you, Scary11:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)11:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)11:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)~

• Is this a hoax? Someone verify this. If you are serious, I don't know. But maybe, it seemed like a hoax to someone.

Not a hoax, it was deleted as a self promotion article. Viridae^Talk 12:11, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

How could it be a self promotion article if it was completely factual about me and my life??? Thank you, ScaryThescary1 12:17, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it was the language of the article archived here. It reads like "This guy is great. I love this guy. You should love this guy too." Then, read something like Brad Pitt. It reads "He was born. He did some things. He isn't dead yet." I didn't delete it, but maybe the person who did felt that the tone make it self promotion. --Kainaw ^(talk) 12:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for that information. I will pass it on to the the people that created the page. Thank you, ScaryThescary1 12:30, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

The Scary Guy was deleted today [2] by User:KrakatoaKatie with edit summary "Speedy deleted per (CSD g11), was blatant advertising, used only to promote someone or something." You can discuss with the deleter at User talk:KrakatoaKatie and see Wikipedia:Deletion policy. Maybe The Scary Guy satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (people), but the deleted article sounded very promotional for Wikipedia. Note that the official deletion argument did not claim it was self promotion. PrimeHunter 12:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello. I did not create the page. I did however edit it a bit. It was not created nor edited to promote me or my cause. Who I am and what I do is real and everything on the page was accurate. I can understand that it may not have been put together properly and a suggestion of help to create the page to look or read like BRAD PITT as suggested above might have been very helpful. As I and the others that did create the page are new to Wikipedia . . . a few sugestions of help would have been very well received. Thank you, Scary GuyThescary1 13:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Found this page that should help: Help:Starting a new page StephenBuxton 13:07, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what is required to recreate a deleted article in order to rewrite it in an encyclopedic tone. That appears to be what the next step should be. --Kainaw ^(talk) 13:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, maybe the person that deleted it, could re-instate the article and then the people that created it could fix it with help. it is factual and it was not self promotion. i do understand that my name is very different, so is my Mission to help people around the world. "The total elimination of hate, violence and prejudice worldwide. Maybe the Tattoo's and the look and the Name are or where not believable. I have experienced this before. I have been banned from 2 cities in the U.S.A, 4 restaurants in the United Kingdom and 3 Primary Schools in the United Kingdom (That I Know Of), just because of the way I look. Since it was such a quick delete, with no help from the administration of any kind ? ? ? What is the message here??? Scary24.31.250.3 14:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

If by administration, you mean administrators, they are the only ones that have the power to delete articles. According to the speedy deletion policies, administrators can delete articles they feel meet the criteria for speedy deletion on sight. Now the article had two problems- one, it was blatantly self-promotional. It doesn't matter if you created it or not. What mattered is that it portrayed you in a POV manner and promoted your mission. The other thing is, the article didn't make a big assertion of notability, another big problem. I don't see a reason to recreate the article, there wasn't much content. Normally I'd encourage you to try to recreate the article, but if you are indeed this Scary Guy as you claim, then conflicts of interest come into play, in which case I would discourage you from recreating it. The fact is, if the subject is notable enough for its own article, then someone will eventually create it. DoomsDay349 14:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Some problems I see with the cached article:

• It contains some undefined cant; for example, the word energy appears several times, but from the context, the article does not appear to be using the standard definition of the word. An important part of encyclopedic writing is linguistic precision - it must be possible for anyone of reasonable intelligence and language fluency to determine what the article is trying to say. This requires a style of writing unlike the normal patterns of speech for most people. Most people get away with speaking imprecisely because most people spend most of their time talking to people similar to themselves (with much shared background, prejudices, assumptions, values, etc.).
• The article contains no links to other articles on Wikipedia, aside from the two category links at the bottom. Another important part of encyclopedic writing is to fit the various claims and assertions in an article into the overall structure of human knowledge; on Wikipedia we call this building the Web. When an article contains no links to related Wikipedia articles, that is like a red flag to deletionists, who justifiably conclude the article was written by people who haven't made much effort to understand what Wikipedia is about. (Presumably, before The Scary Guy enters a school, he has some idea of why the school exists, and the proper way to behave while in a school, because he spent years in school as a child. An adult who had been raised in a culture that had no schools would probably not know how to behave in one. Wikipedia is more complicated than a school, and yet thousands of new users approach Wikipedia as if they already understand it.) Personally, I would rather see people try to repair an article's problems than delete it, but deletionists have an inherent advantage, because the number of articles with problems is vastly greater than the number of volunteers who have spent the time to learn the skills necessary to fix the problems. Consider that there might only be around 10,000 people who have much understanding of Wikipedia's policies, and there are 6,992,876 articles on the English Wikipedia, and something like 4,000 new article appearing every day. Wikipedia appears to be inundated with new articles, many created by relatively new users who chose to start writing before reading much.

• Why would such links matter? For starters, they might help define some of the article's cant, such as what the article might mean by the word "energy," and the behaviors the writers seem to view as "negative." Links to other articles are important for avoiding undue weight and maintaining a neutral point of view. For example, the article vaguely describes The Scary Guy's motivations and actions, but it does not place those things into the larger context of the study of, and debate about, the vast history of social reform movements. (Shortly after humans invented society, humans embarked on an endless treadmill to reform society.) Imagine if the articles about social reformers such as Mother Teresa, Billy Graham, or Adolf Hitler merely outlined the actions of those people without giving any clues about where they got their ideas, not to mention what some of the opposing schools of thought have to say about them. The Scary Guy did not invent every aspect of his current personal philosophy; his original contributions are likely to be minor (because almost everyone's original contributions are minor), and thus his philosophy should be classifiable in some way. Does it have a history? Does it have a name? Has anyone articulated it coherently? Has anyone criticized it? There should be articles describing that philosophy, as well as opposing philosophies, and The Scary Guy's article should link to them.

• From a content perspective, the article seems to imply a value judgement about criticism in general - namely, that criticizing people is bad and we shouldn't do it. This immediately raises a number of Elephant in the room questions, such as: what about professional critics? What about critical thinking? What about free speech? (We don't need Constitutional guarantees to safeguard speech that everyone is comfortable with.) Does a coach win the Super Bowl, the World Cup, etc., without criticizing anyone? The most famous and successful people (e.g., Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, etc.) come in for some of the most vicious criticism - might that mean that knowing how to accept and benefit from criticism is an essential ingredient to success? How about teaching children to handle criticism by facing facts, rather than fall apart when someone points out that they can improve?

To its credit, the article does link to some sources. However, that wasn't enough to sway the people who decided to delete it. What to do now? First, The Scary Guy should learn that Wikipedia is one of the most selective wikis. There are many other wikis with different policies, many of which are practically begging for content. I suggest searching WikiIndex for: education and writing an article about The Scary Guy on a wiki that is more interested in adding content than deleting it. If the article evolves into encyclopedic shape on that other wiki, then perhaps someone can try again with it on Wikipedia. --Teratornis 16:17, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Here is a copy of the original invitation, by email, from neantbrice - contributor at Wikipedia, inviting Scary to do exactly what he did... include further information to 'enhance' , as neantbrice phrased it, what The Scary Guy is all about. Scary did not submit the original entry. Or intend to self promote. He has added factual information. He is Real. He is notable. The initial entry was posted by somebody out there who thought so. The entry was brought to our attention by one of your contributors! So now - do you simply delete contributions if users do not 'get it right first time'?. You say: ""When an article contains no links to related Wikipedia articles, that is like a red flag to deletionists, who justifiably conclude the article was written by people who haven't made much effort to understand what Wikipedia is about...and yet thousands of new users approach Wikipedia as if they already understand it"" The situation you describe here that you are experiencing would suggest to me that offering guidance to people who have submitted information in error of the Wikipedia guidelines RATHER than deleting them would be logical. Whatevernext 16:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Here is the email - it didn't copy first time rm email, copyvio

Whatevernext 18:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

See this page: deletionists. The infobox in the upper right corner links to m:Conflicting Wikipedia philosophies, which describes the ongoing debate about what Wikipedia should be and how it should operate. Wikipedia is the world's largest collaborative project. Wikipedia is not a single unified intelligent entity. It is instead a community, with many aspects of a battleground and an ecosystem. Check out an ecosystem some time. From a distance, it looks quiet and peaceful, with birds chirping and animals grazing. But the more you study what is really going on, the more you see that an ecosystem is an endless war of everything against everything. Everything is trying to eat something else, or avoid being eaten by something else, while fighting for scarce resources of food, water, sunlight, territory, etc. What is "logical" for lions to do (eat the zebras) is the opposite of what is logical for the zebras to do (run from the lions). However, Wikipedia is not a truly wild ecosystem; it is more like a managed game park, with a hierarchy of wardens presided over by the Great Leader. But within this game park, there are wardens running around in splinter cells, shooting other wardens and some of the visitors, particularly visitors who arrive with preconceived plans to start rearranging things without first taking the time to learn how the game park "works."

I agree that the people who exert the most influence on Wikipedia should try to be informative about their motives and actions - and they have been. Wikipedia is one of the most extensively documented complex systems you will find anywhere. Almost everything you could need to know to function productively here has been written down. All you have to do is read it. Granted, for many people reading is hard work. Most people prefer the personal attention of expert human intelligence - someone to digest the complex rules and interpret them for each person's specific case. Unfortunately, expert human intelligence is scarce and expensive (only the super-rich can afford to hire consultants and attorneys and advisors to relieve them of the need to think and study on their own), and as you may have noticed, Wikipedia is almost entirely a volunteer project. In a volunteer project, everyone is expected to pull their own weight. The way you pull your own weight on Wikipedia is by reading the friendly manuals, rather than expecting someone else to read them for you. It's OK for beginners to ask a few questions, but for the most part, every participant has to read and study a lot of material on their own, because in the long run that is the only method efficient enough for an organization which does not pay its volunteers. Every participant should strive to gain enough expertise so he or she is answering more questions than he or she still needs to ask.

We do have a guideline called: WP:BITE, but the fact that we had to write that guideline should give some clue about how difficult it is to follow in all cases. Wikipedia is fantastically complicated; it has to be, because it is so huge. The massive complexity of Wikipedia, and the dire shortage of knowledgeable volunteers to hold the hands of the massive number of new users makes Wikipedia inherently hostile to new users who don't like to read instructions. However, for people who enjoy reading instructions, and helping to improve the instructions, Wikipedia is a paradise.

We also have a guideline called: WP:SOFIXIT, which is to say that if you see something you don't like about Wikipedia (for example, its hostility to a large fraction new users who don't like to read instructions), the only way that problem will be fixed is if someone does the heavy lifting necessary to fix it. So who will be that person? Would you like to help us fix that problem? Lots of people have complained about it. We don't need more complainers, we need doers. We need someone to solve the problem. That fact that all the smart people already here haven't been able to solve the problem suggests the problem is really hard to solve.

I tried to do my small part by starting the section: WP:WWMPD#If all else fails, try another wiki, to address the daily flood of questions such as this on the Help desk. Wikipedia's Articles for deletion machinery currently does what I consider to be a poor job of informing the people who contributed to articles that get deleted. I'm reminded of the opening section of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in which, if I recall correctly, the Vogon constructor fleet arrived to demolition the planet Earth to make way for an interstellar bypass. The Earthlings protested, claiming they had not been informed, whereupon the Vogons replied that the demolition had been scheduled for years and the plans were duly on file at the Alpha Centauri field office, and yet no humans had objected. The story was set in the present day, so humans lacked interstellar travel and therefore had no awareness of these plans being made for them by space aliens. In much the same way, many users who are new to Wikipedia and discover how easy it is to create new articles usually have no idea of Wikipedia's equivalent of the Vogons and what they do to thousands of new articles per day. --Teratornis 17:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

""...the article seems to imply a value judgement about criticism in general - namely, that criticizing people is bad and we shouldn't do it."" Teratornis, These are your words and you have made a surface level interpretation. If you were to read the information fully and find out about the content you would see that the article describes how NOT to live in exactly that space of sweeping statements, generalisation, stereotyping, judging, closed minds. (Whatevernext 17:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC))

I see two things you can do: 1-Talk to the deleting admin and ask him for his reasons. 2-Nominate it for undeletion at WP:DRV. Corvus cornix 18:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of open and closed minds, those are two basic ways to approach Wikipedia. The closed-minded approach is to assume one already knows how Wikipedia operates (that is, by making sweeping generalizations about what the manuals say without actually reading the manuals), which usually amounts to stereotyping Wikipedia as being something other than what it is. The open-minded approach is to try to empty one's head of assumptions and instead read the friendly manuals to find out how Wikipedia really works, before proceeding. Most people take the closed-minded approach to most things simply because there isn't time to learn everything properly, and this frequently brings people to grief when they stereotype incorrectly. Wikipedia is especially hard to stereotype correctly, because Wikipedia is unlike anything else most people have experienced before.

Another Elephant in the room problem that the deleted article ignores is the unavoidable logical contradictions in its underlying philosophy of political correctness. Nobody can be equally accepting of everyone and everything. Those who claim to be "against" prejudice in the abstract are invariably prejudiced against something when we get down to specifics. For example, they may end up exercising prejudice against people they label as "prejudiced" (which might be, for example, everyone who argues with them about something). Every social movement invariably creates its own outgroups. That's because virtually all humans have some sort of value system, and they unavoidably classify other humans according to how other humans stack up against their values. For example, many people believe murder is wrong, so they tend to have less respect for habitual murderers than for people who share their disapproval of murder.

If Wikipedia didn't have any standards for its articles, the site would quickly turn into a complete mess. That fact that it is difficult to write articles here that stick is a big part of why Wikipedia is now one of the world's most popular Web sites. Unlike a random Web page controlled by a single author, on Wikipedia we know that everything is subject to merciless review.

We are digressing from the subject at hand, which is why the article got deleted. Article deletions are fully understandable (and debatable) in terms of Wikipedia's documented policies. The correct way to object to an article deletion is to examine the arguments for its deletion and show how they did not accurately reflect the Wikipedia policies they claimed to reflect. Read WP:WWMPD and keep reading it until you understand. The practical strategy, as I already stated above, is to try another wiki. --Teratornis 18:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to all of you for your feedback.

I know understand why the information about me was deleted.

And yes, this is in fact The Scary Guy. I was just reading what someone else created about me and found it was deleted. And I simply asked . . . WHY. It is clear now.

Thanks again. Scary

HELLO TERATORNIS RE Your Comment above ""Speaking of open and closed minds"" I referred only to your actual words, which were: """...the article seems to imply a value judgement about criticism in general - namely, that criticizing people is bad and we shouldn't do it."""

And I say to you again that this is not implicit in Scary's work. There are no references to ""criticism being bad and people shouldn't do it"" at any stage in his work. In fact - just the opposite - although I won't discuss that here, as that really would be digressing!!! I said to you ...If this is what you perceived (as you wrote the words, I take them to be a reflection of what you perceived) from your look at the article, then, you, in what you wrote, have made a surface level interpretation of what Scary actually says. And you are not accurate. I make no reference to Wikipedia, and no assumptions as to how it works. I am in the process of discovering about Wikipedia and how it works.

I would ask you again, why you (Wikipedia) would not reinstate the article? For example at the point at which it was in a basic form. For example, when neantbrice (a Wikipedia contributor) emailed us and invited us to add information.

Here is his email again:

rm email, again

Until we received neantbrice's email we didn't even know we were on Wikipedia! But we were really pleased when we heard. We had no intention of Self Promotion. Now we know more of the guidleines. We're happy for others / or us to make any changes so that it meets the guidelines. Whatevernext 217.44.52.14 19:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

• It's been restored and is now listed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Scary Guy. - KrakatoaKatie 19:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Question about positive and negative numbers

I've noticed when looking at "My Watchlist" page, all the articles are followed by either a positive green number or a negative red number, sometimes in bold, sometimes normal font, and all of varying values. Could someone please explain what the numbers mean? Thanks StephenBuxton 12:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

• It's the netto amount bits/bytes added or substracted to track text dumps and blankings (see WP:VFAQ). - Mgm|^(talk) 12:11, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I must be going blind, as I can't see the question covered on the VFAQ page, but your explanation makes perfect sense. StephenBuxton 12:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Citation help

I've been adding citations wherever possible, but I'm not certain if I've been using the right format. I've had a look at the page that helps you with citations, but other than telling me I'm supposed to use a certain format, I'm still none the wiser. Could someone help me, please? StephenBuxton 12:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

• Have you tried Wikipedia:Citation templates? If you use them, you can't easily go wrong with the formatting. Can you give a few examples of citations you added so we can take a look at them? - Mgm|^(talk) 12:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I haven't used those templates, guess I'll have to try. As for a couple of recent citations Deus ex machina (mine is the only citation at the moment, regarding Doctor Who). Also on the topic of The Doctor, I added Blink (Doctor Who), reference number 10. Since then, I have found the need for using that reference earlier in the article. I understand there is a way of using "Name" to double up on references, but not sure how. StephenBuxton 12:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Had a go with Blink (Doctor Who) - Hope that's better. Now all I need to do is understand the multi-use of a reference... StephenBuxton 12:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Footnotes#Citing a footnote more than once is the page you need. Happy editing, mattbr 17:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I revised reference number 10 in Blink (Doctor Who) to a format I typically use. (e.g., Author last, first. (date) Publication. Title. Issue x; page xx.) to complete the footnote, you still need to add the name of the news article to reference number 10. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

WANTED JOHN LENNON REMCO DOLL 1975 GUITAR

I have the Beatles dolls made by Remco in 1975....John is missing his guitar. Please where can I find one?

You could try ebay, the website, not the article--VectorPotential^Talk 13:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

This help desk is where Wikipedia answers questions about Wikipedia. Wikipedia's reference desk is where Wikipedia answer questions not related to Wikipedia itself. reference desk probably is where you want to post your question. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

how do you change the color of your text?

how do you change the color of your text? i mean the color of your writing not your signature.

signeddarkness

I use <font color='#123456'>some text</font>. Change 123456 to the color you want. --Kainaw ^(talk) 14:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Colours. PrimeHunter 14:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

BOT Edits

I have been working on the page Hill City, South Dakota and have noticed a couple of bot edits. They added the following lines at the bottom of the edit page

"lmo:Hill City, South Dakota"

"vo:Hill City"

both were inclosed in double brackets. I was just curious as to what "lmo" and "vo" mean. Thanks Lmielke359 14:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Those are interwiki links -- links to Wikipedia in other languages. If you look at the article, you'll see, on the left-hand side, a list that provides links to the article in other languages. "lmo" and "vo" are the codes for the languages, just as "en" is the code for English. Check that article and you'll find that Volapuk (which I can't spell correctly for lack of diacritics) is now one of the languages in the list; "vo" refers to Volapuk. --Tkynerd 14:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Interlanguage links and Help:Interwiki linking for more. PrimeHunter 14:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

And "lmo" stands for Lombard. --Brand спойт 14:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I learn something new about Wikipedia everyday! Lmielke359 15:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

ERC Help

Sorry to be so dumb -- but I'm a communications consultant to the Ethics Resource Center -- a non-profit that promotes organziational ethics. I am drafting an original entry (at present, there is no Wikipedia entry about ERC). I understand your basic rules about content, and have the content almost ready. But I CANNOT tell, from any of your instructions or FAQ pages, how to turn the raw content into a page that fits the style of others I have NO training in Web page design and probably do not know most of the technical terms. Do I need to engage someone with that skill, or are there templates where I can plug in the raw copy and have it formatted to fit Wikipedia's style?

This is a great tool and we're eager to post information about ERC as a resource on ethical issues. But I'm totally befuddled by your system!  :-)

First, ensure you read WP:COI to ensure you aren't involved in a conflict of interest. Second, there isn't a single "Ethics Resource Center". So, any article titled "Ethics Resource Center" must cover the Ethics Resource Centers in Washington DC, the AMA, Santa Clara University, Dubai... -or- the article should simply be a description of what an ethics resource center is as this is an encyclopedia, not an advertisement board for organizations.

As for editing the article, click on ethics resource center and click the "create article" link. Paste in your text and click "Save page". --Kainaw ^(talk) 15:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi - I have created a sandbox for you off your userpage, you can find it here. Post your content there and then people from here (who are so inclined) can help you format it. Also please sign your posts with --~~~~ this is so people know who said what. --Fredrick day 15:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi and congradulations on Ethics Resource Center's 85th year in building a stronger, ethical washington. There are so many Wikipedia reliable sources on Ethics Resource Center that Ethics Resource Center meets Wikipedia notablilty and there should be a Wikipedia article on the Ethics Resource Center. The article should be built from Wikipedia reliable sources. Unfortunately, the Ethics Resource Center website is not a Wikipedia reliable source since it is not independent from the Ethics Resource Center topic itself. Your best bet is to approach the Ethics Resource Center's media department and ask them for copies of the newspaper articles that discuss the Ethics Resource Center. You may build the article from those Wikipedia reliable sources and any other that you find. As for making it look like a Wikipedia article, the best way to do that is to look at Wikipedia articles your competitors or others who do similar work and use their piecies of their formats that best fit the article. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:34, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

How can an article in German Wikipedia be put into the English one?

How can an artcle in the German wikipedia be put into the Englih one?

Assuming that the article covers a topic that is notable and cites reliable sources, it can be translated by someone bilingual in both languages. Marco polo 15:34, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Try posting a request at Wikipedia:Translation/*/Translation Requests. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

And please do not just copy the content from German Wikipedia without translating it. That kinda article is speediable with {{Db-foreign}} --Shinhan 20:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation tangle

The article Mark Brandenburg covers a baseball player who played for two seasons professionally. However, it is also a common name for the Margraviate of Brandenburg in Germany and is also sometimes used for the Province of Brandenburg or the state of Brandenburg in modern Germany. Of the articles that link to this page, only 6 refer to the baseball player, and 16 refer to the German region. Is there a more efficient solution than the following?

1. Move the current "Mark Brandenburg" to "Mark Brandenburg (baseball player)"
2. Create a new headword for "Mark Brandenburg" that redirects to a disambiguation page.
3. Create a disambiguation page pointing to "Mark Brandenburg (baseball player)" and "Margraviate of Brandenburg".
4. Change each existing link to "Mark Brandenburg" to a link to one of these two articles.

Thanks for any tips that would make this easier. Marco polo 15:34, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

(note: I reformatted your numbers so they are easier to read)

I would go for a disambiguation page that just asks which article the person wants, having (baseball player) added to the player's page - just as you suggest. --Kainaw ^(talk) 15:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Note that it is against Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Page naming conventions to let Mark Brandenburg redirect to Mark Brandenburg (disambiguation). When there is no primary topic at Mark Brandenburg, the disambiguation should be placed there. PrimeHunter 21:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

abstract algebra

prove that Z/143Z is cyclic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.177.147.188 (talk • contribs)

No. You prove it. It is your homework. --Kainaw ^(talk) 15:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Please use the Reference desk for these types of questions, but: Do your own homework. The reference desk won't give you answers for your homework, although we will try to help you out if there's a specific part of your homework you don't understand. Make an effort to show that you've tried solving it first. Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 15:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Did I create this category correctly? Server Appliance?

Did I create this category correctly? Server Appliance?

Also {{help}} does not seem to be functioning properly today.

--Akc9000 16:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I changed your call to {{help}} to merely display the template name (by using Template:Tl) rather than transcluding the template. Otherwise, your question became difficult to read. Category:Server Appliance appears to violate WP:TITLE, since you do not capitalize the word "appliance" when it appears within a sentence. The category name should probably be: Category:Server appliance. --Teratornis 16:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I see that both Category:Server appliance and Category:Server Appliance exist, but the latter category's title appears to violate WP:TITLE, and we should be using Category:Server appliance instead. Someone who knows how to move categories should chime in here. --Teratornis 16:42, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Question about logging in

I just created an account. The web page said that I was successful. I received an email and clicked the link. I am attempting to login with the user name and password that I registered. I know that I am typing the confirmation words correctly, but it is not recognizing my password or the confirmation words. I cannot login. Can you help? Is there something obvious that I am missing?

user name: bastedo {{help me}}

Does the user name need to be capitalized? I didnot capitalize it when I registered, but it looks like it is being capitalized by my browser or your site for automatic login.

Problem loggin in

I just created my account. The web page said that I was successful. I received an email response. I clicked the web link in the email. I just tried to login and it won't recognize my password or the conformation words. I have carefully checked as I type. Nothing is working. Can anyone help?

user name: Bastedo

There does not appear to be a user with the name Bastedo. See User:Bastedo and special. The logs show that such a user name was never created. Try creating the Bastedo user name again. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Jreferee, but I did try that yesterday and it did deny that I could create the account, that the account already existed. I do also have the email acknowledging that this account was formed. I just tried again to make a new account. The error message says that the name is already in use. I am not sure what gives. Can you look into this further?

Computer Assembeling/ RAM not support MB driver.

Hi dear, This is jon, I face problem when I assembled a desktop PC of Intel D102 MB with 512MB DDRII 533MHZ speed RAM. At first Windows XP SP2 instaled properly but when I came to install driver CD it got hanged the machine. But when I used a 256MB 333MHZ DDRII RAM, its worked properly. Even I take 2 of 256MB DDRII RAM, it gives same problem. What is the best solution of that. Send me on this ID. <email removed> Bye.

This help desk is where Wikipedia answers questions about Wikipedia. Wikipedia's reference desk is where Wikipedia answer questions not related to Wikipedia itself. reference desk probably is where you want to post your question. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Or more exactly the Computing reference desk for questions about computers. Shinhan 20:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Kelly Services Page

Hi, Im representing Kelly Services Corp. temporary employment agency. When you go to the Information that wikipedia provides on Kelly Services it says that the article doesnot refrence any sources and another box saying this article was writtenlike an article or advertisement. Is there any way that we can give you sources and get these messages off our Wikipedia page? Thanks,

Yes. Though this is a wiki and you can edit any page, it would be a conflict of interest to edit your own page. What you should do is suggest the edits on the article's discussion page. If it is written like an advertisement, then you may consider rewriting it in a more encyclopedic tone, and asking for someone to read, verify, and update the text to the actual article. tiZom_(2¢) 19:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia reliable sources typically are newspaper articles and information from book and they are best presented as in-line citations (e.g., footnotes). Adding references is not something the help desk does. However, there is nothing wrong with you including the cites in the article. You may get guidance on how to do this by looking at the Wal-Mart article. However, it may be better to work with another editor on this. Terraxos seems to have an interest in the Kelly Services article. You may want to post a note on Terraxos's talk page and request such assistance. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 20:06, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Please note that it is not "your" Wikipedia page. It is a Wikipedia page about your company. And Tomtheman5 is totally correct, discussion on the article's discussion page is the best place for your concerns. Corvus cornix 20:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Ownership of articles and Help:Talk page for more explanation of the above concepts. Also see some featured articles about corporations to get more ideas of what Wikipedia wants your article to become, for example: Microsoft, Acorn Computers, Bank of China (Hong Kong). --Teratornis 15:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Listing my name

Hi, I just registered at Wikipedia. Is it allowed to add my name (I am a sculptress) at the sculptor list? (Photos, Biography etc.) Thank you in advance <email removed>

Hi Thesculptress. I'm not sure what list you are referring. However, you may be interested in joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts and Wikipedia:WikiProject Sculpture. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

If you're talking about adding an article for yourself, then the answer is generally no. Because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it only covers topics that are noteworthy. See Wikipedia:Notability (people), under the "Creative professionals" sub-heading. If you think you meet these guidelines of notability, it's still not within our policy to write your own article, as it would constitute a conflict of interest. If you are in fact notable, someone else should really be writing an article for you based on reliable outside sources. tiZom_(2¢) 19:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Still cannot login properly

And my last question is gone

I'm connecting from an Ip that is banned! Does that have anything to do with it? It is a school and I am not the vandal etc.

Once more - I can login but as I load another page I am logged out and so cannot create new pages etc.

Don't connect at an IP that is banned. That's the only thing I can tell you. -- Kesh 01:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

If you can login but are logged out immediately, one possibility is that your browser doesn't have cookies turned on (if you're at school, unfortunately you might not be able to turn them on); if the cookies are on, try the 'remember me' checkbox or the secure server, both of which can help solve login problems for some people. --ais523 08:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

How do I CREATE a userpage ?

Hi,

I'm a (completely, obviously) new User, and can't find out how to create a userpage. I followed various links after creating my ID, but in spite of all the info that IS on the "Userpage" page (which tells me in great detail what's allowed and not allowed), there doesn't appear to be anything to tell me HOW to CREATE it.

Help. Lorwood 20:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

See the red link in your signature? Click it, put something on the page, and hit "save page". Friday (talk) 20:19, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Also see: Wikipedia:User page. Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 20:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Trading Spaces is a project where others will help you create your users' pages. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 21:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Movie Gallery

I work at movie gallery and I read your article. Some of the things in there are wrong.

1. Rentals are for 7 days- not 5 days 2. If you want to exchange a rental you have to bring it back within 5 days of renting it. 3. Rentals have to be in the store before they close to be checked in on time and avoid late fees- the article says customers can return them by midnight. If they do, they will have late fees. 4. Each store is different. Customers have to return the rentals to the store they rented it from. 5. If the rental goes past the due date, the computer automatically checks it out for another week of renting and then the people have to pay for it again. Ex. Person checks out 4 movies (12.99) on a friday and they bring them back the next saturday, that person's extended viewing fee is (12.99) even for one day late.

Please feel free to edit the article, make sure you cite the source for the info. Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 20:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

But please make sure that the source is a reliable source. Personal knowledge is not acceptable, that would fall under original research. Corvus cornix 20:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Arbcom

How do I request an arbcom? The direction son the page are not clear.Hajji Piruz 21:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

You don't - at least not yet. You need to proceed through other steps in the dispute resolution process first. Ask for a third opinion or mediation to start with, or if it's urgent, notify the administrators. Also leave a message for whoever you're arguing with so that you all can reach a peaceful resolution. YechielMan 22:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

What is the reason that you would like to request an arbcom? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

It appears to be an ongoing dispute with another user, according to Hajji Piruz's Talk page. Looks like they're going through AN/I right now. -- Kesh 01:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

You should be familiar with the general procedure for an arbitration case, having been a party to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan. With regard to the specifics of filing a case, you edit Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration by copying the hidden template at the top of the edit window, inserting the required information, and posting it as a new section at the top of the page. As noted above, however, you do this only after after exhausting other dispute resolution methods first. Please ask me or one of the other Arbitration Committee clerks if you have any further questions. Newyorkbrad 01:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the responses. I've never requested an arbcom myself. As per the steps, we have tried several of them already, and I even made a peace proposal to the other user, who didnt accept, and continues his behavior. Anyway, the problem is that I dont see the edit template when I click edit.Hajji Piruz 02:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

The edit "template" is the text at the top of the page when you click Edit. Look where it says Current Requests and BEGIN TEMPLATE. Copy & paste that into Notepad or another text editor, write up your request, then paste it at the end of the page, just above the Archives. -- Kesh 02:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't see a reason for the ArbCom involvement, as User:Hajji Piruz/User:Azerbaijani is simply wasting community's time. It's clear that the disputes are not of personal but those of content nature, which should be properly discussed on talk pages and agreed upon, something that User:Hajji Piruz/User:Azerbaijani, who has been through ArbCom already [3], and placed on revert parole for warring, cannot practice. Instead the user files failed RfC [4], targets me and others along national lines [5] and even goes as far as editing my user page without permission or discussion [6]. As you can clearly see, this type of behavior is nothing close to encyclopedic. He is wasting my valuable time, while I edit many other articles, trying to intimidate me. Atabek 06:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Protection Reasons

Is there a way to find out why a page is semi/fully protected, who protected it, how long protection is due to remain in place and where can protection be appealed? If replies could be posted on my talk page it would be appreciated. Xarr☎ 22:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Click on the history tab, then View logs for this page, assuming the protecting admin used a block summary, that should tell you why a page is protected--VectorPotential^Talk 22:34, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Cheers for that, I knew there must be a way. What is the procedure for getting an article unprotected? Is there a guideline on how long an article should remain protected? Xarr☎ 22:42, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Generally you can request unprotection of an article at WP:RFPP, specifically this section--VectorPotential^Talk 22:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

June 14

Addition the "Baseball Cap" history

Wonderful website, please keep the great information comming, your references are terriffic!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_cap#External_links

Your history of the most popular hat worn needs updating. Our company www.zerino.com has invented the most superior luxury designer capwear on earth. Suggested updating to the site:

Luxury designer capwear invented by Robert J. Potochnik starting in 1998 and perfecting in 2007.

Luxury designer capwear a name coined by Robert J. Potochnik is comprised of premium fabrics made from high grade Silk, Wool or Select Cottons.

Features of designer capwear are:

Premier fabrics, "Voletes" top buttons made of 22k gold, sterling silver or diamonds, detailed micro embroidery on seam covers and headbands, high stitch count logos (clear crisp lines), additional stitching per cm as in a hand made designer suit, higher quality threading, offset headband and crown seams (reduces overlapping bulge in aft of cap) liners of 100% silk or micro-fiber mesh, interior logo covers (covering stitching on inside of capwear), elimination of heat trapping materials such as interior plastic sweatband lining, plastic crown forming strip, addition of composite brim insert (indestructible for washing).

Other innoavations/accessory options for designer capwear include:

Handmade luxury wood display cases (mahogany, cocobolo, etc), protective silken cap pouches, shape holders (former which cap sits on to hold shape when not in use), extra fabric top buttons included with cap.

Currently Zerino is adorned by over 75 celebrities such as Nicollette Sheridan, Deidra Hall, Christian Slater, Drew Lachy. Other available on www.zerino.com

For a product so universally worn to not have a mid to high end fashion form is unthinkable, Zerino International LLC is the original luxury designer capwear specialist. The world's one and only! For now at least!

Zerino designer capwear has been on sale at Brooks Brothers inc. since 2005 in the USA, Japan, Italy, Korea, (2007) Hong Kong and at various other locations worldwide.

Have a wonderful day!

Take care,

Robert Potochnik - CEO Zerino International LLC

cc. Zerino legal

• Hi Mr. Potochnik. Wikipedia's has policy on external links that does not permit advertising or promoting sites. See External link advertising and conflicts of interest. A link to www.zerino.com in the Baseball cap falls under external link advertising or promoting sites. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

How To Delete an Image?

HOW do I delete an image I uploaded?

Type {{db-author}} anywhere in the image's description and save. Make sure you've removed all instances of the image in the article namespace. tiZom_(2¢) 00:31, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

still don't understand!Abdalla 00:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

We can't really delete things, so we have to request it to be done. To do that, just go to the image page. Go to the edit screen for that image by selecting the edit tab. Put {{db-author}} at the top of the page, and save your edit. This will add a tag to the article, and an administrator will come around and delete it for you.

If you still need help, just let me know which image it is, and I'll take care of it for you. tiZom_(2¢) 00:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

See WP:DELETE if you want details on how deletion works on Wikipedia. Only administrators can delete things like pages and images here. The vast majority of ordinary users do not have this power, so we have to follow procedures to ask administrators to delete things for us. --Teratornis 14:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Crackhaven

On Google Earth, I clicked on my neighborhood, and your report said "locals refer to it as Crackhaven." I have lived here 14 years in "Crackhaven". 17 years in Florida. I have a nice home here, Hillsboro Lighthouse is less than 3 miles from here. South Florida is always under construction. We have had our roads, sewer, water, sidewalks added, new storm pumps, everything, new mall, new beach front.(woopps, power is "old school", generator is a must here) This is a city, and the walks of life is from all over the word. I would hate that my 14 year old son would see that we live in "Crackhaven".

Mike Cresthaven Pompano Beach Florida

I did not find any reference to "crack" or "crackhaven" in the Pompano Beach, Florida article. I believe that you are referring to the Collier Manor-Cresthaven, Florida article. I removed the unreferenced material from the Collier Manor-Cresthaven, Florida article. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Music page error

A name is spelt wrong in the credits of a music album. How do I change it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JolyonVaughanThomas (talk • contribs)

The same way you wrote your message here. Click edit this page, make the changes, and click save page.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Only make the change if you have a published reliable source. I see you have changed two names to "Jolyon Vaughan Thomas" which has zero Google hits. If this is you or somebody you know and the middle name "Vaughan" has not been published by a reliable source, then Wikipedia policies does not allow you to add it. You cannot use private knowledge to add content. Correcting "Jolydon" to "Jolyon" is OK since there are sources. PrimeHunter 02:03, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

five region of asia

non-sense— Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.217.17.45 (talk • contribs) 02:18, June 14, 2007 (UTC)

Yes, this post was nonsense. Do you have a question about Wikipedia? -- Kesh 02:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

This link lists "five major regions" of Asia: Russian Asia, Southwest Asia, South Asia, Southeast Asia, and East Asia. PrimeHunter 02:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

deletion

I am a fan of the work of Steve Oliver, and posted a short biography. I intended to keep adding to it as I found out more, but have had no response from his people regarding information. I was lead to understand that anyone could add to wikipedia, so if you can have articles about murderers and the like, why not music hosts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Podmaster2 (talk • contribs)

See our notability guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (people) and Wikipedia:Notability (music). By "notability" we don't mean that people have done good things, but that they have done things which have been sufficiently noticed by published sources. I don't know whether Steve Oliver is the same as the deleted Steve oliver. PrimeHunter 02:47, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit to Adolescence

[7] Should record of this edit be deleted due to its content? Please advise if this should be posted in a different location. davewho2 06:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

The edits have since been reverted by another editor. E ^talk 07:18, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I think the questioner is wondering whether or not they warrant oversight. I don't know the answer, and I don't know if this is the best place to seek it. Anchoress 07:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

When I encountered a similar problem, I asked here and got this reply:

Oversight is what allows this to happen. To request action to be taken, you'll want to follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requests for oversight. -- Natalya 14:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I followed the instructions, and the edit was deleted. Skittle 12:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Black-Eyed Susan

How do you obtain permission to post the following info from [8]?

The site in question has a copyright policy stating that unless otherwise specified, all materials appearing on the site is the property of the owner and its subsidiaries and are protected by U.S. and international copyright laws, therefore you cannot use it. E ^talk 07:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

You cannot post copyrighted information verbatim, but the basic principle behind an encyclopedia is that we rewrite content which has already been published elsewhere in reliable sources. Therefore, lots of copyrighted information has been the basis for Wikipedia editors' rewrites. See WP:CITE and WP:CITET to learn how you can cite sources from which you rewrite information here. Hint: try a Google Search and a trip to your local library to obtain multiple sources for the same information. If you rewrite information from several unique sources, you are less likely to violate copyright by sticking too closely to any one original. --Teratornis 14:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

How to ask for permission to use the copyright material of others might assist you. What info from Black-Eyed Susan Day do you want to post? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

How do I search a event???!!!

HOW DO I SEARCH A EVENT?

Wikipedia is not a directory of events. Try searching Google for a local events guide near your location. E ^talk 07:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

If an event is or was notable enough to warrant coverage in Wikipedia, you can look it up here. Wikipedia documents lots of events, for example World War II which was a pretty big one. See Help:Search to learn about searching for things on Wikipedia. --Teratornis 14:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is fantastic!

I didn't want to ask a question, I just wanted to say thank you because your site is fantastic!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.61.99 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for the compliments as they are always welcome. E ^talk 07:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Check out some of the awards won by Wikipedia. I'm guessing not many of those awards came from new users who asked Why was my article deleted?. Wikipedia is often fantastic for people who merely read it. For the smaller percentage of people who attempt to edit articles, Wikipedia can sometimes be downright vexing, as we have a large number of (often) initially unintuitive policies and guidelines to trip up new users, not to mention wikistress and edit warring etc. Wikipedia is something like sausage: those who like it might not want to see it being made. But I have to say, as fantastic as Wikipedia already is, perhaps the most fantastic thing about it is that you can help to make it a little bit more fantastic. For example, see WP:BACKLOG, WP:WIKI, and WP:WIKIFY for some needs you can address. --Teratornis 14:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I want to delete my account

I want to know how to delete my account.

Accounts with contributions cannot be deleted since this would allow another user to create the account, and claim authorship of those edits. It is not possible for your edits to be removed entirely; for this reason, removing the account would potentially violate copyrights by allowing for such authorship claims. You also have the right to vanish and request your user and talk page to be deleted, as explained at Wikipedia:User page. E ^talk 07:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

See How do I delete my user and user talk pages? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

make this website to be my homepage?

I want to make this website to be my homepage? how can I?

Use your browsers settings option to set the homepage. You should set it to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page. E ^talk 07:59, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

You haven't stated what web browser you are using. All of them (that I know of) allow you to to choose your homepage. For example, if you are using interent explorer, go to tools--> internet options--> general tab--> type in the wikipedia URL you'd like to set (I suggest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random) and click save changes. Most browsers have similar procedures.--Fuhghettaboutit 08:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

HELP ME ON THIS PROBLEM PLEASE!

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

"SORRY BUT WIKIPEDIA DOES NOT HAVE A PAGE CALLED "WIKIPEDIA:SANDBOX"

YOU CAN CREATE IT BY PUTTING YOUR ******** ****** BELOW!"  ?

I SAW IT ON THE WIKIPEDIA HOME PAGE!THANKS!ALSO CAN I KNOW WHAT IS YOUR yhmstmystm?[[ ]]][[[][] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.96.241.86 (talk • contribs)

You can see the sandbox at Wikipedia:Sandbox. E ^talk 08:45, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Glucose Use in Gatorade

Does Wikipedia have information on the use of glucose in Gatorade and whether diabetics can safely drink Gatorade?

Try looking through the Gatorade article. E ^talk 08:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Note that Wikipedia does not give medical advice. PrimeHunter 13:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

This article states "Gatorade is listed as having "Glucose-fructose syrup," which is not synonymous with HFCS." This Google search may have links of interest. Your best bet is to contact Gatorade directly. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

connecting Excel as backend with VB

Hi, please help me .... I want to connect VB as front end and Excel as a back end tool. Actually I have some data in Excel with that I have to generate a report in VB.

This is a question for the reference desk, not the helpdesk. E ^talk 09:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

mars

i need diagram of mars and the planets and the sun. where do i find that?

Have a look at Geography of Mars. See also Image:Marskern.jpg or Image:Terrestrial planet size comparisons.jpg. --Brand спойт 12:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Conditional template variables && Links to external documents

Hi, i am working on a corporate intranet Wiki and need to solve templating issues:

1. I have a contact box template that includes a little box with some info. But if a variable is empty i don't want the surrounding <span></span> tags to show because it creates an empty space. I have the extended Parsing functionality and wonder if maybe that can help me? Can i evaluate the variables that come in? or do i need another extension for this?
   
   
2. Second problem is about linking to documents outside the wiki. Those documents reside on the same computer in different drives and need to be accessed. This is vital for the Wiki to be effective for our corporation.

--Wmasterj 11:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

For question 1: use something along the lines of {{#if:{{{variable|}}}|<span>{{{variable}}}</span>}} to hide the formatting when not in use. Notice that the pipe defaults the variable handled by the #if ParserFunction defaults it to blank, to hide the content, while the content inside will remain the same as displayed normally as long as the {{{variable|       }}} field is not empty. ParserFunctions, however, will cause problems with wiki-format tables, so you may want to use HTML format tables if necessary for your template. I'm afraid I'm not familiar enough with linking compatibility in MediaWiki to answer your second question. Nihiltres^(t.c.s) 11:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. It worked really nicely wouldnt have figured that out without alot of hassle. Ty --Wmasterj 12:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Second question still remains. ;)

See m:Manual:$wgUrlProtocols. Also see w:MOS:BOLD#Boldface. And note that "wiki" is not a proper noun so you should not capitalize it, unless you refer to the original WikiWikiWeb. --Teratornis 13:58, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Reference to translation of article

The biography section of this article João Garcia was literally translated from the portuguesese version João Garcia
I ask for a reference to that on the english article. --85.243.24.246 12:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

You can simply put the appropriate notice of translation at the bottom. Otherwise contact the contributors (click "history" on the top). --Brand спойт 12:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I don´t know how to do that. Could you do that for me, pls? Thanks. --85.243.24.246 15:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

At the bottom of the article, it reads [[pt:João Garcia]], which means it was a portuguese to English translation. See Category:Translators_pt-en. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Not necessarily translation, just an article in a different language about the same subject. (Often these are translations, but they don't have to be.) --ais523 17:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Adding javascript

Hi, i work on a corporate intranet Wiki based on MediaWiki and cant use Javascript inside the Wikitext or even add links. How can i solve these problems. They are crucial for the Wiki's success. And this is a big company ;) --Wmasterj 12:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Your question is a bit vague, and since we can't see your corporate wiki and we aren't mind readers, you may need to illustrate your problems with examples to get help this way. You might edit a user subpage (e.g., User:Wmasterj/Sandbox) that illustrates what you want to do with JavaScript. As far as linking goes, I've never had any problems adding links in MediaWiki, so it's hard for me to guess what sort of links you are trying to add that don't work. Again, an example would help. Other items:

• This Help desk is for questions about editing on Wikipedia, although some volunteers will try to answer just about any question. The proper venue for MediaWiki support is mw:Project:Support desk.
• You can find lots of useful MediaWiki administration information by searching on Meta-Wiki and mediawiki.org with these links:
  • http://www.google.com/custom?domains=meta.wikimedia.org&sitesearch=meta.wikimedia.org
  • http://www.google.com/custom?domains=www.mediawiki.org&sitesearch=www.mediawiki.org
• The words wiki and wikitext are not proper nouns, so don't capitalize them in mid-sentence. Linguistic precision is also crucial for a wiki's success. Why? Because most of your corporate wiki users are probably new to wikis, and they will therefore edit pages in random ways. Your wiki needs at least one person who can go around and clean up the random garblings of your wiki novices, so they can all learn the proper way (or at least one way) to do things.

--Teratornis 14:18, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

submitting a listing?

[[Media:Example.ogg]]

What is your question? --Kainaw ^(talk) 13:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

register

I could not form an account nor was the administrator option effective? 75.39.132.98 14:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

See WP:ACC for a request to create an account in such circumstances, or if you've already been there, it will tell you why your request was declined. --ais523 16:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Main page archive / link from "Did you know?" talk page reference?

Are there archived main pages available for viewing? This seems like it would be terrible obvious, but I didn't find links on the main page or in the FAQ. I'm interested specifically because it was mentioned on Talk:Protoplanetary_nebula that there was an entry on the main page on June 11th, 2007 under "Did you know..." for this article, and I'd like to be able to see what that entry is, but there is no link to the entry and no apparent way to see the main page from that date. Thanks, Keflavich 14:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

There is no archive for the main page as a whole as it is generated through the transclusion of numerous templates, but there are archives for each section linked to in the bottom right-hand corner of each section (except 'In the news'). The DYK archive is at Wikipedia:Recent additions. Hope that helps, mattbr 15:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Protoplanetary nebula actually says it was January 11th 2007. "...that a protoplanetary nebula is a short-lived phase of stellar evolution?" was added here and removed here. PrimeHunter 16:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Apparently I had the month of June on my mind, and I didn't know that I needed to look in the Template:Did you know history. That answers my question. --Keflavich 16:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Not that you asked, but ... Wikipedia is divided into hundreds of departments, six of which are classified as Main Page departments. The Main Page departments include (i) Did you know (dept.), (ii) In the news (dept.), (iii) Picture of the day (dept.), (iv) Selected anniversaries (dept.), (v) Today's featured article (dept.), and (vi) Main Page design discussions/Main Page Redesign Project (closed). The first five departments control the changeable sections on the main page (e.g., "content") and the sixth department controls the fixed design surrounding the changeable sections (e.g., "design"). Each department archives its own part of the Main Page. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

creating a definetion for mochacity on wikipedia

hi .. i would like to know how i would go about uploading information on mochacity which is a community portal on wikipedia. the reason i want to do this is to give a definetion of what we embody as an african american site.

do you have the capacity for us to create a definition for mochacity? and if so how do i go about it. if you could let me know it would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mochacity (talk • contribs)

Please see our guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (web) and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. It is uncertain whether Mochacity is a suitable topic for Wikipedia and it is strongly discouraged to add it when you represent it. PrimeHunter 15:45, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

There does not appear to be enought Wikipedia reliable sources from which to create a definition or article on either mochacity.com or Mocha Entertainment Group. However, there is a listing at MochaCity.com since mochacity.com may be a site that mirrors and forks Wikipedia. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 18:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Template formatting ideosynchracies

I have noticed that {{Professional Baseball}} formats oddly in Firefox 2.0.0.4 on Virginia League and Coastal Plain League (Class D). However, on all other pages it seems to format normally. What gives? TonyTheTiger 15:47, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

• This: <TABLE><TR><TD> ... </TABLE></TR></TD> should be <TABLE><TR><TD> ... </TD></TR></TABLE> . HTML table tags are nestled. I've changed them to Wikipedia's table format. See HELP:TABLE. --h2g2bob (talk) 20:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

• • Great catch. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 22:03, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Oil and Gas Industry (Gulf of Mexico)

I am looking for some information on some equipment we use in the Gulf of Mexico. Cannot find on internet. Pressure-Vacuum Safety Valve (Vareo)

Please try the reference desk for these types of questions. Regards Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 16:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Dalek X

Hi, I'm Dalek X. I just regestered a few days ago. If I forgot my Password, how would I retreive it?

Thanks

Did you register an email address with the account? If not, please create another. Regards Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 16:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

What if I forget the password? may help you also. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 18:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

how do I show a "pipe" within a table?

I am trying to place a "|" signal within a table, but it keeps getting interpreted as a column wall. How can I delimit the pipe to literally print it?

Where abouts is the table? And also see: Help:Table. Regards Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 16:13, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Enter &#124;, which returns |. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

&#124; worked - thanks!

Sparknotes a reliable source?

Hi! I'm kinda new here, so I still have to learn the various ways Wikipedia works. I'm currently working on the Romeo and Juliet article, and I have some Sparknotes info handy. Would Sparknotes be considered a reliable source?--Romeo in love 16:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Regards Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 16:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but that really doesn't help. Is there a list of sources that are considered reliable, or at least a list of sources that are banned from use here?--Romeo in love 16:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

No, there is not. WP:RS is the guideline that outlines what counts as a reliable source. Or, perhaps more clearly, what is not (ie. blogs, MySpace, forums, etc.). This is mostly based on verifiability, which might make it more clear. We can't cite a source that is, realistically, just someone saying "Take my word for it." A reader would have to reasonably assume the source employed fact-checking on the subject in question, such as a newspaper, peer-reviewed journal, online magazine, and so forth.-- Kesh 17:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I suggest asking people at the Talk:Romeo and Juliet page their view. Corvus cornix 18:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

It may depend on what facts you are trying to add to the article. Sparknotes are well known and would be a Wikipedia reliable source for some facts but perhaps not for other facts. Romeo and Juliet is a well referenced article that is attended by several good editors. I would just add the information and footnote it with a cite to sparknotes. (See Be Bold.) If someone disagrees or has a better reference, they may change it. If not, it will stay in. Others have used sparknotes. See Search. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 18:16, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you--Romeo in love 19:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Sparknotes is not a reliable source for Romeo and Juliet (it is not a reliable source for anything); it is not peer reviewed and it is not written and published by experts in the field. The guideline on reliable sources (also at WP:ATT) outlines that works published by university presses and other major publishing companies (such as Viking) are the most reliable. For Romeo and Juliet, you will want to use academic scholarship for the bulk of the article since literary critics are the experts on the play (as you can tell from the notes already contained in the article, previous editors have done this - you might look there for sources). I suggest beginning with The Cambridge Companion to Shakespeare. It has introductory essays and will guide you to the most important scholarship on the play. There is so much that you need some guidance (the amount could probably fill several houses - it's crazy). Awadewit | talk 23:18, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I will make some huge assumptions based on your user name and the other comments: you feel that you have something to add, but you do not have a PhD in English literature. Great! Pick the interesting fact from Sparknotes, and then try to defend it by finding a "good" reference: I suspect that a lot of older "academic" research is available in some form on the web. Now, add your fact and cite the academic work you found. -Arch dude 00:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Searching for articles by a particular uthor

How may I search for articles by a particular author, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmartin33 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia is written by volunteers not by paid authors, but if you can remember the name of the wikipedian (a wikipedia volunteer) i may be able to help you! Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 16:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Most Wikipedia articles have many contributors. You can see them by clicking on the "history" tab for the article. You can see other contributions by those editors by clicking on "contribs" next to their editor name. Are you specifically interested in articles which were originally created by a given editor? PrimeHunter 16:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Use Special:Contributions to look for pages edited by a given user, and Special:Newpages to look for pages created recently by a given user. --ais523 16:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Highways

How do you create highway pages?

See Wikipedia:Notability (highways) first, and then pop over to Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways who may be able to help! Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 17:59, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

And if you don't feel you have the expertise to create the page, drop by Wikipedia:Articles for creation. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 21:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

How does one connect an article page to a Category Page?

While I was searching for articles on a particular WWII aircraft, I found a category called "World War II American aircraft" which included a large # of aircraft--but nothing for American fighter aircraft. Once I located this area, I was able to pull up articles on individual aircraft whose "numbers" I knew (like P-40 and F4U) but none of these articles/planes were listed under either WWII aircraft or WWII American Aircraft. There was no category for WWII American fighter aircraft. And I would think that there needs to be one. But I'm new to wikipedia and have no clue how to make these links...(Nor do I know that many of the aircraft names/numbers.) The articles are lovely... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magysty (talk • contribs)

I believe you're looking for Category:World War II American aircraft or Category:U.S. military aircraft. :) The Evil Spartan 18:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't read closely enough. Well, you simply create a category called that Category:WWII American fighter aircraft, and you add the appropriate supercategories as categories. I'll even do it for you. The Evil Spartan 18:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

created. The Evil Spartan 18:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Category:U.S. fighter aircraft is subcategorized by decade. See the existing categories Category:U.S. fighter aircraft 1930-1939 and Category:U.S. fighter aircraft 1940-1949. Do we really need Category:WWII American fighter aircraft? PrimeHunter 18:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I was adding Category:WWII American fighter aircraft to some articles and saw Category:U.S. fighter aircraft 1940-1949. There might be an overlap. And as I type this, I see PrimeHunter's post. I'm going to undo my additions to Category:WWII American fighter aircraft. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 18:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

WWII lasted from 1939 to 1945, which does not fit the 1930-1939 and 1940-1949 U.S. fighter aircraft scheme. This probably is an issue best handled by Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history. I would suggest posting your category proposal at the WikiProject Military history talk page. Also, you may want to check out List of U.S. World War II Aircraft. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 18:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

cancel account

how can I delete/cancel my account?

Unfortunately you cannot as it does not comply with the GNUFDL. The Sunshine Man 19:29, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

See How do I delete my user and user talk pages? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Also consider seeing m:right to vanish. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 21:56, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

User warn templates

Are there templates for user talk pages about not adding copyrighted material to an article and no original research? I can't find them at Wikipedia:Template_messages/User_talk_namespace for some reason. --Pascal666 19:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this one Template:Uw-copyright? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is. For the other one, use Template:uw-unsor1, uw-unsor2, and so forth. YechielMan 19:45, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I must be going blind or something. --Pascal666 19:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia address

Hello,how can I get rid of the wikipedia address when ever I type the letter w

This is a windows problem, not a wikipedia problem. Smartyshoe 19:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

If the Wikipedia URL address appears every time you type the letter W, then it may have something to do with Autocomplete setting (one of the Windows Internet Options). However, this help desk is where Wikipedia answers questions about Wikipedia. Wikipedia's reference desk is where Wikipedia answer questions not related to Wikipedia itself. reference desk probably is where you want to post your question. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Multiple Dimension conversion

Are there Category:Conversion templates for two or three dimensional conversions such as sculpture measurements. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Some of the recent posters at Category talk:Conversion templates may know more about this. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 20:13, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

That talk page has had one post since April 5th. I will post there, but suspect I will need help from elsewhere. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 22:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

You may want to contact the posters at Category talk:Conversion templates directly on their talk page. For example, from that talk page, it seems that Rursus is very intersted in conversion templates. Omegatron also seems to have an interest in the templates. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:03, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

To my surprise, I received prompt reply at Category talk:Conversion templates. Thanks. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 16:37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Completely Re-writing an Article

I understand I am not supposed to delete material in a body from Wikipedia. What if an article seems to me to need a complete re-write? Can I do that?

You can, but it'd probably be a good idea to discuss your plans on the talk page before you do so if it's a long article which lots of people have worked on. - Zeibura ^Talk 20:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles are not necessarily written in the sense that people generally understand that term. Wikipedia articles typically are built/edited from information contained in Wikipedia reliable sources. Re-writing an article from your personal knowledge may be using original research, which does not meet the No original research policy. However, we are the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, so please feel free to begin your efforts as it is the best way to learn what you can and can't do. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 20:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I recently did a complete rewrite on the Itanium article. The re-write included the merge of three older articles. I first declared my intention on the talk page and asked for comments and help. I then created the re-written article in my user space and asked for comments on the old article's talk page. Finally, after a decent interval, I replaced the contents of the old article with the new article. Because my re-write was also a merge, I followed the merge guidelines: wait for two weeks for consensus to emerge on the talk page, or wait for four week if there are no comments at all. I also tried very, very hard to ensure that all adequately-sourced facts from the old article(s) were included in the new article. I don't know that this is the best way to do it, but it did not cause any grumbling. I have since gotten the article to WP:GA status. I am now working on WP:FA. -Arch dude 23:59, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Please update Israel page

The new president is Shimon Peres instead of Moshe Katsav

Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zivberkovich (talk • contribs)

In Israel, Shimon Peres is listed as "Shimon Peres (elect)" in the "Infobox Country or territory" and is mentioned in the article as well. If the information is not correct, you may want to suggest changing it at Talk:Israel. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 20:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

He won the election but he is not scheduled to be sworn in until July 15 [9] as President of Israel says. I have reverted another editor who declared him current president in Israel. PrimeHunter 20:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I figured that the request proably was along the lines of over eagerness. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 20:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Permantly deleting an article

Notice you ear marked my article for deletion. Actually I've been trying to get it deleted since I wrote it as an attempt to figure out how this system functions. How do I get it deleted permanently? I would like it off but can't get through all the convoluted directions to accomplish that. The article is entitled Stephen E. Henthorne

I would prefer you answer my enquiry via (E-Mail removed for security purposes)

Thank you, Stephen E. Henthorne

Email removed for security purposes! Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 20:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I listed the page for speedy deletion as the report may be notable, but Stephen Henthorne is not. Mr. Henthorne. Please don't blank the page as you did. Please let the process complete. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 20:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, Mr. Henthorne, Stephen Henthorne now is deleted. I think you also may want to review How do I delete my user and user talk pages? In addition, I do not believe that your name appears in any other Wikipedia articles. See Search. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 20:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Monobook script

Hello. If someone that's knowledgeable in the use of javascript in the monobook.js on Wikipedia I'd be very glad if you could help me.

I would like to replace some of the links in the navigation bar (you know, the box on the side that says 'main page' and 'contents', etc.), or possible even remove the whole box itself. Then, I would like to add a few links of my own in the toolbox. Can this be done? Thanks for your time. *Cremepuff222* 20:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

addOnloadHook(function() {
    document.getElementById( "p-interaction" ).getElementsByTagName( "ul" )[0].appendChild(document.getElementById( "n-randompage" ).cloneNode(true))
    document.getElementById( "column-one" ).removeChild(document.getElementById( "p-navigation" ));
});

This should remove the "navigation" toolbox place and add the "Random article" button to the "interaction" box. For adding your own custom links, use the addPortletLink function (in wikibits.js) Gracenotes^T § 20:56, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Question about editing a page.

Is there something of an approval process that allows us to put things on a page. For instance, I am a Public Relations Agent in NYC, specializing in Pop/Rock. I attempted to add the CD Cover and name of a Rock Pianist I work for on the Piano Rock Page.

Immediately the cd cover picture was available, but in less than 5 minutes, it was deleted. Am I missing something, or did I do something wrong on the editing, or did a 3rd. party deleted my addition?

I would like to know just so I understand the process. I attempted to find an explaination prior to this message, but was unsuccessful. Thank you for your time!

Jessica — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yourprgirl (talk • contribs)

Clicking the "history" tab at Piano rock shows the article history [10]. Your edits were reverted by Rrburke who judged them inappropriate. One of the edit summaries said "Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising". See also Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. People should not use Wikipedia to promote somebody they work for. PrimeHunter 22:58, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Jessica. While Lenny Revell may be an important rocker, Wikipedia permits use of information about Lenny Revell if that information comes from Wikipedia reliable sources such as newspaper articles and books. Unfortunately, I could not find any Wikipedia reliable sources from which I could add information about Lenny Revell to any Wikipedia article. As a Public Relations Agent, you probably are aware of all the Wikipedia reliable sources that contains information about Lenny Revell. You may add that information, using an in-line citation (e.g. footnote) that references the source of the information. If you know of such information and would like help adding it to a Wikipedia article, please let me know. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:58, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Jessica. As PrimeHunter mentioned, I am the editor who reverted your contributions. I did so because I felt that, as his agent, your close connection with Mr. Revell put you in a conflict of interest that made it inappropriate that you should include material about him in an article. It appeared to me that you were making these additions for the purpose of promoting Mr. Revell, which is contrary to Wikipedia policy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a vehicle for promotion. Please consider reviewing the following Wikipedia policies and guidelines if you are interested to understand in greater detail why I removed your contributions:

• Wikipedia: Conflict of interest
• Wikipedia: Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising
• Wikipedia: Neutral point of view
• Wikipedia: Reliable sources
• Wikipedia:Notability (music)

--Rrburke^(talk) 04:35, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyright infringement

The page I created got deleted by Wikipedia because of a "copyright infringement." The biography I used is also being used by another website, but with my permission. How can I fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.159.76.84 (talk • contribs)

You need to demonstrate that you are the original author of the text, and that you are willing to release that text under the GFDL or another compatible license (note that this means that anyone, anywhere, will be able to take that text and do whatever they like with it within reason, depending on the specific license chosen). Confusing Manifestation 22:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. PrimeHunter 22:45, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

How to ask for permission to use the copyright material of others might assist you. However, even if they grant you permission, the actual text may not meet Wikipedia reliable source requirements and may be deleted anyway. The usual Wikipedia approach is to develop the article from a variety of Wikipedia reliable sources. Wikipedia did incorporate the Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition, but that was from a 1911 publication (public domain material) and was from an Encyclopedia. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:48, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

You can include a GFDL notice in the original website.--Nopetro 16:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Changing the Title of an Article

Hi,

I was wondering if you could give me some assistance on this article... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Avalon

The radio station has now changed name to Worthy FM, would it be possible to change the title of the article to reflect this but divert Radio Avalon so people still find the page with that search string also.

Thanks Steve

Done. If you have an account that is older than about 4 days, you can do this yourself by moving the page - it automatically creates a redirect at the old article. Confusing Manifestation 22:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Hebrew Alphabet

What is the 12th letter in the Hebrew alaphabet?

See Hebrew alphabet, maybe? Confusing Manifestation 22:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Lamed. ל YechielMan 23:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Novice User

Hello, I am new to using this very special resource. I do want to respect is mission.

Question 1, if I use a talk page through a link in an article, does that text talk get associated and viewed on that article page?

Question 2, is there a place I can go to get special guidance and assistance in becoming a good citizen of Wikipedia? In fact I would be happy to pay.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jefferyds (talk • contribs)

Wow, I don't think I've ever had anyone offer to pay! You've come to the right place. As to your first question, if you write something on an article talk page, it doesn't directly effect the article (though discussion pages serve as forums to discuss improvements or problems in an article). As to the second question, Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance) and WP:HELP are good places to go. You can always add the {{helpme}} template to your talk page if you're confused about something. If anything else, just drop someone a line on their talk page. Mine is User talk:Chaser or that T at the end of my signature. Cheers!--Chaser - T 23:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

(after edit conflict) I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the first question. Almost every page on Wikipedia, including this page, has an associated talk page. When you are on any particular page, to reach the talk page you click on the "discussion" link at the top of the page. Each page's talk page is discrete. You can know which talk page you are on by its name: it will be the name of a page, but have talk added to the title (so this page's talk page, for instance, is called "Wikipedia talk:Help desk"). There is nothing special about how you reach a talk page that changes the way text is linked and it never appears in the associated main page; each page is discrete and the talk page is separate from the article page, but user's who work on the article will often monitor its talk page (and see changes to it listed in their watchlist if they have chosen to "watch" that page) so an article's talk page is usually the best place discuss issues regarding that article.

As to your second question, for passive special guidance, take a look at Wikipedia:Introduction and then you might find a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial useful. For active guidance, you might place your name as an adoptee on Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User. No payment required, though I, personally, do accept cookies as tips. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Your comments on talk pages don't become visible in the article, but other editors may make visible edits after reading your comments. Using Wikipedia is free but you can make a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation who runs the servers and has other costs. Donations do not give you any special privileges in Wikipedia. PrimeHunter 23:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

As for paying, Wikipedia:Reward board and Wikipedia:Bounty_board seem to have some sort of monetary set up. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

And ψikiMoney! The bank closed, though, because there wasn't enough interest (no pun intended). Although, I believe that Jefferyds was talking about paying money for a good answer. No need; this is a volunteer project, and people answer only because they want to. Gracenotes^T § 01:18, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I never heard of ψikiMoney. Thanks! -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 23:03, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

You could put the {{helpme}} tag on your Talk page if you need help with a particular issue, or you could ask to be adopted by following the procedures at the Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User page. Corvus cornix 18:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Image displacement

Images in articles appear slightly displaced on both of my computers (one runs LINUX and Firefox, the other Windows XP and Firefox). I can drag the images down and then they appear in their "rightful" spot, but it is annoying that every time I look at a page, all of the images appear slightly above where they are supposed to be, often covering text. Any advice? Awadewit | talk 23:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure....I run Firefox and XP, and I haven't see any such things. Perhaps it's your monitor size? In any case, the best way to fix it, I think, would be to go on IRC, and on to #wikipedia-en-help. Someone there could give you real time help. - G1ggy ^Talk/_Contribs 23:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi. This help desk is where Wikipedia answers questions about Wikipedia. Wikipedia's reference desk is where Wikipedia answer questions not related to Wikipedia itself. reference desk probably is where you want to post your question. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I realize that, but this only happens when I am viewing wikipedia, so the problem is obviously connected to wikipedia somehow. I was wondering if I needed to change a setting or preference somewhere in my user preferences to fix this problem. Awadewit | talk 00:55, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

how to find a prisoner

My father in law was moved from a federal correctional institute to the immigration office, how do I find out about his status

Hi. This help desk is where Wikipedia answers questions about Wikipedia. Wikipedia's reference desk is where Wikipedia answer questions not related to Wikipedia itself. reference desk probably is where you want to post your question. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

June 15

Use of Div Class = "NavFrame"

Hi I like the NavFrame div class - it lets me create articles where the reader can interactively decide when to see more information without leaving the article they are reading, and without creating articles which are not inherently notable... ie, Coaches of the Australian Rules Football League may be notable... but the list of coaches might not.

My problem is I don't understand how it works. I can use it by a cook-book / cut-and-paste method. But if you look at my sandbox, I have one near the top. By default, the hide/show says "Hide". But the information is already "hidden". When you first click "Hide" the label becomes "Show" and the information stays "hidden". You have to click it a second time to actually show the information.

Also: I want to know how to set it up to use the same formatting as the table you see when you finally get the table to appear.

Can anyone point me to a good reference for how to use this NavFrame thing?

(I don't really want to be spoon fed the answers, I want to be able to fish for myself) Thanks.Garrie 00:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

The script assumes that the NavFrame is shown by default, so clicking on the hide button once will "change" the display of the NavFrame to none, essentially not doing anything. A common workaround to this is creating a table with a defined width (usually "width=100%"), a transparent background if the table is not in article namespace, and the classes mentioned at WP:NAVFRAME#Collapsible tables. Gracenotes^T § 00:23, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer to the workaround. WP:NAVFRAME was really what I was after, you have pointed me to the specific section I needed which is even better.

Gee I never ceased to be amazed how quick I can get a response around here.Garrie 00:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

PS. The script you pointed to is all greek to me... I'm a sysadmin not a programmer. I do much more simple scripting than that!Garrie 00:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, can you sort out my "Basic navframe" at my sandbox, I can't work out why what I want to show up as two rows is showing up as two columns. I went from being confused by navframes to being confused by tables.Garrie 00:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

If you don't mind, I have fixed it. A |- means a new row. Help:Table is not bad for a basic table tutorial. Gracenotes^T § 01:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, it was the |- bit to signify a new row. I was still thinking about div class NavFram where "there are no rows", it's just text... Thanks, your examples on my sandbox are great.Garrie 01:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

help me

hello, I want to use the suitable template for leaving wiki for vacation in realword. plz acquaint to me.--Gordafarid 13:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

There is no real need to use a template (simply stating the fact on your user page is more than enough), but if you want, the templates are available at Wikipedia:Wikibreak. Also, please do not use the {{helpme}} tag on any pages other than your own user talk page. Cheers, Tangotango (talk) 14:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

my confirmation code is kaputs.

I checked the fax...yes my confirmatin code is not working. Now what? ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.184.238.231 (talk • contribs)

Fax? Confirmation code? What are you talking about? Also, the ~ is normally in the top left (above the tab, next to the 1). It is not the minus sign. Youth in Asia 01:19, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Background Images and Wiki

I was wondering if Wikipedia allows background images through style= tags, and if so where/how the images could be called. For instance, something like div style="background-image:url(Image:example.png); background-repeat: repeat-x; David Fuchs 01:35, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the url(image) notation is not supported, for the same reason the <img/> tag doesn't work (not even on Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons images; no reason why not, but perhaps the developers have not gotten to it). However, you can see a CSS workaround at User:Ed g2s—a truly ugly hack, but it works. Gracenotes^T § 01:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

You can add a class (with url(image) syntax) to your own monobook.css, however this will not make the background-image show up for others. Adding such a class (or asking an admin to add it) to the official wikipedia monobook.css will ofcourse make it work for all visitors, but I suppose that in such a case there has to be a very good reason to have it added. Freestyle 17:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC) p.s. they did such a thing for the Main page of the Italian Wikipedia (gradients) Freestyle 17:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Image cpyright

Hi I just uploaded Image:Ralph Chetwynd.gif today and realized afterwards that it may be copyrighted. I used {{PD-Canada}} and was thinking fifty years, but I forgot that it is fifty years before 1999, not from now. Anyway, should I replace it with a fair use tag? Or does the fact the photographer is unknown make it public domain in Canada, as it is more than fifty years old otherwise?CindyBo 01:57, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Why before 1999? Is that when the creator died? --saxsux 18:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

What I mean is explained here at the Canadian Public Domain Photos Category. [11] Which also has a link to this which is the bottom of the page at Vancouver archives explainig the law further.

The revisions to the Copyright Act (Bill C-32 An Act to Amend the Copyright Act) came into effect January 1, 1999.

Under the old law, photographs were protected for 50 years from the time the photograph was taken. The new law is the life of the creator plus 50 years. Photographs already in the public domain prior to January 1, 1999 will remain in the public domain ( i.e. photographs taken up to December 31, 1948).

I'd forgotten that the Canadian Public Domain pictures had to be 50 years old before 1999 (not 2007). This photo (taken in 1954) although 53 years old, was only 45 years old in 1999 and therefore falls under the new law. Which is death of the creator plus fifty years. But we don't know the creator. [12] I suppose for the sake of being on the safe side that I should just put a fair use tag on it.CindyBo 19:59, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

There I went and did that. I think it'll be fine. If anyone knows if it truly is public domain in Canada we can change it back, I guess.CindyBo 20:31, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Signature

How Do I customize my signature? User:Abdalla A

WP:SIGNATURE#Customizing_your_signature LaraLove^T/_C 03:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

There is a person who I think deserves an article...

I was recently browsing a few websites and noticed the same person over and over again. Well I finally decided to check this person out and found out that they're really trying to make themselves known in this world. They write stories, draw, and have an online publishing company under the works. I have a direct connection to this person and have been wondering if I could possibly create an article about them...seeing as i could recieve straight from the source facts. Can I? Or do they need to be famous? P.S. I checked out the sites recomended here to check but most of us aren't einstein and can't understand half of what wiki is implying....could someone explain what they mean by the notability stuff? ..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aronkiakama (talk • contribs)

Check out WP:NOTABILITY to see if this person meets the criteria. LaraLove^T/_C 03:02, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Also check out WP:V which will help you evaluate the usability of source material. Anchoress 03:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, WP:OR. You cannot use information only available to you. As Anchoress pointed out, it needs to be verifiable to us through other sources. -- Kesh 03:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

okay. I think I get it now. But now for an even bigger question...Say I wanted to do an article about some characters she's writing about and the information I want to use is from an account on a website that can be viewed by anyone. Can I do that? Or do I need more sites and more info and an actual publishing date?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aronkiakama (talk • contribs) 03:21, June 15, 2007 (UTC)

No, you couldn't use those. They are not reliable sources. Further, if she's still in the process of writing, the character's won't be notable themselves, so they can't have an article. -- Kesh 03:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Uh, I hate to be so rude and continue this but I'm still a bit confused. She's not really in the process of writing considering the fact that it's a continued series of short stories based on her crazed worklife and how she deals with it. And once again apologizing for my rudeness how are they not reliable sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aronkiakama (talk • contribs)

Please sign your posts using four "~"s. :o) Also check out WP:RS. That should help you understand what is appropriate for sources. LaraLove^T/_C 03:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

oh sorry bout the sig thing, new here. Please Forgive. And also forgive me on the fact that I can't understand those sort of pages because I can't understand the words...they're just too big. Kuesai 03:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, to give you a summary of what WP:RS is about, it's basically saying that you need sources that hold up to criticism, particular criticism that suggests that the author is likely to not represent the situation well. For example, the author's web site is not a reliable source for their works, since they're trying to advertise them and likely to inflate their importance. A blog or a post on a forum is not a reliable source, since anyone can start a blog and say just about anything they like (I'm not counting things like blogs attached to newspapers and written by journalists, although you still have to be careful to consider whether it has to go through an editor or otherwise). A newspaper is a reliable source, since there is a firm editorial process involved designed to check the details - not to mention if a newspaper article contains seriously incorrect facts they may be liable for legal trouble, so they like to keep things accurate (and yes, I know about, for example, Category:Journalistic hoaxes, but in the grand scope of things it's a drop in the ocean compared to internet hoaxes). A peer reviewed journal is a reliable source because the articles are subject to scrutiny by people who are generally knowledgeable in the relevant field. A Wikipedia article is not a reliable source, again because anyone could have written it. In general, to determine whether a source is reliable or not, ask yourself - "Who wrote this? Why should I trust them? What would they stand to gain, or lose, by lying about things? Did anyone else read this, and have a chance to correct it, before it was published? Was it reviewed by people who know something relevant, or just a general editor?" - and the more confidently you can answer those questions, the more reliable (theoretically, at least) the source. Confusing Manifestation 04:30, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Aronkiakama. If you post the name of the person and perhaps a link to one of their pages, I'll see if I can find any Wikipedia reliable sources for the propose article. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 23:08, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Doing a paper and need help please!!

I am doing a paper for Florida Virtual School and i need to cite this as one of my sources i need to know who the author of this cite is first and last name. The date of publication. I hope this is not to much trouble thank you much. Please email me the answer.

Thanks, Christine email removed

What article are you citing? LaraLove^T/_C 03:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Read Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Anchoress 03:03, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

In addition, there is also a "cite this page" link on the toolbox on the left. It automatically cites the page you are on in a standardized format. --_Hdt83 ^Chat 05:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia search box on another (non-Wiki) webpage?

I have a webpage and I would like to add a search box that allows my visitors to search for articles on Wikipedia.org directly from my webpage. Is it possible to receive the .html for this?

One easy way is to add a Google Search form to your Web page; see these instructions. To restrict your Google Search form to Wikipedia, you want to specify en.wikipedia.org for the sitesearch value in the instructions. You can use similar methods with other search engines, and you can find instructions for them by searching the Web, for example like this: Google:google search form on my web page. --Teratornis 06:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Total number of edits

I believe there is a way to find out how many total edits you have and I am wondering what that way is.----La Parka Your Car 05:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

You are correct. Check out this page (and possibly bookmark it for future reference). Your edit count is here, under "total"; your number of article edits is next to "Mainspace". Gracenotes^T § 05:21, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.----La Parka Your Car 05:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

More information is at Wikipedia:Tools#Edit counters and User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Edi. --Teratornis 05:57, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Why is my account deleted?

Hi, I had my account (Cppgx) and used to edit some articles about astronomy, etc.. Today when I was trying to translate an article, I found my account deleted. Now I created it again. I'm sure there was no mistake about upper or lower letters. I am case sensitive. But why?

Thank you in advance.

Hi, there is no record of there ever having been any account named "Cppgx" before you created it to edit this help desk page. Furthermore, accounts on Wikipedia cannot be "deleted" because of potential licensing issues. Do you remember the exact names of any articles you edited? You may be able to trace the name of your previous account from the "history" tab of those articles. Cheers, Tangotango (talk) 08:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'm afraid I've made a mistake. It seems that my old account is for zh.wikipedia.org. Now I opened two browsers, one for en.wikipedia and the other for zh.wikipedia and all is Ok. Does this mean I must relogin on switching languages by choosing another item from the lower left table ("In other languages")?

Yes. m:Unified login is still (?) being implemented, so until then, you have to log in separately to all language Wikipedias. x42bn6 Talk Mess 12:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

hi

what do you mean by hospital nurse? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.69.200.70 (talk)

A nurse working at a hospital? PrimeHunter 16:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Changing Article Title

I am trying to change an article (bio) title from "Abeyesundere" to "Abeyesundere, Hon. Justice A.W.H." but unable to do so as I can't find the "move" option on my edit screen. I checked the settings for edit too.

This article refers to a legal luminary of Sri Lanka, now deceased.

Please help.

(E-Mail removed for security purposes)

I have made the move: Abeyesundere, Hon. Justice A.W.H. - G1ggy ^Talk/_Contribs 10:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Email removed! Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 16:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure Abeyesundere" would not be a better name? Wikipedia naming convention (WP:COMMONNAME) says that articles should be named after the most commonly known name for people. Do people really refer to him as "Abeyesundere, Hon. Justice A.W.H." in everyday conversation? Also, seeing as this article has no citations or links to verify any of the information in it, I'm a bit concerned as to whether this person is really notable enough for a Wikipedia article; see WP:NOTE. --saxsux 18:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

information

what is the main function of using sap netweaver?

See NetWeaver. Also, this is a help desk for Wikipedia, not SAP products. --Kainaw ^(talk) 12:21, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

join to ure instuite

hi this is amit ku singh i m asking abt the whts a rule n regulation of joining the ure ins. plz sugess me bcoz i m join the mba course n i m very serioues .

Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, not a University or College. x42bn6 Talk Mess 12:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Um, we don't have a university, to the best of my knowledge. ~Crowstar~ 16:53, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Although not mba course, you may want to try Wikipedia Virtual classroom or Wikiversity. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 23:48, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

human rights

"human rights is a concep that has been constantly evolving throught the human history tied to the laws, custonms, and religious throught the ages." analyze the above statement with special reference to eastern philosophies,thoughts and religious norms in order t ofind whether the contemporary human rights law is a pure product of western thoughts.

We're not here to do your homework. You'll have to figure that one out yourself. Human rights may help you. --Tkynerd 11:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

You may also want to ask the teacher to define what he or she means by the phrase: "a pure product of western thoughts." I'd guess "western" is a synonym for "European", and Europeans have had their thoughts influenced by all the peoples they have had much contact with, which given the European history of exploration would be lots of people. For example, the concept of zero may have originated in India. Since western peoples probably cannot have very many thoughts about human rights before they start thinking of numbers, specifically the Hindu-Arabic numerals, it's hard to imagine what thoughts they might have which would be purely western. --Teratornis 16:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

This help desk is where Wikipedia answers questions about Wikipedia. Wikipedia's reference desk is where Wikipedia answer questions not related to Wikipedia itself. The reference desk probably is where you want to post your question. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 23:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

New page

How do i make my own page of the w ebsite —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rhys lewis93 (talk • contribs).

See Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article. x42bn6 Talk Mess 12:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Adding a new entry...

How do you add a new listing or entry to the Wiki?

(once again) See Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article. --Kainaw ^(talk) 13:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Translation from English to Portuguese

Hi there! I am interested in translating articles from English to Portuguese. As this would be a new thing to me, I wonder if someone would be kind enough to inform:

Am I allowed to translate articles? How can I start translating articles? (need to know step by step)

Awaiting your reply.

Best Regards, Adriana Monteiro

I don't know the full answer. Try Wikipedia:Translation and Wikipedia:Babel. YechielMan 14:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

More information is under the "Translations:" entry a few lines below this: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Tra. --Teratornis 16:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

7 For All Mankind Factual Errors

Hello. I work for and represent the premium denim manufacturer Seven For All Mankind, LLC. (7 For All Mankind) We have noticed that a section of the entry for our company has severe factual errors and has be co-opted by a competing company for their own marketing purposes. Essentially, the problem is that the "Brand" section of the 7 For All Mankind entry has almost nothing to do with the topic of the entry and tries to present a competitor as the inspiration for our products. Under our entry, the "Brand" section was updated last November to include the information about our competitor, "Seven7", by IP address 213.16.178.200. You will find that this is the IP address for www.seven7europe.com - the competitor in question.

We suggest that the "Brand" section as it stands be removed in its entirety and replaced with the text below:

BRAND

The 7 For All Mankind brand has strong recognition worldwide and is particularly well known among celebrities and fashion-conscious denim consumers. The 7 For All Mankind logo consists of a large, brushstroke-style numeral 7 with the words "for all mankind" written across it in a smaller, stylized script. This logo has traditionally been found on the inside back waistband of 7 For All Mankind's denim products as well as sewn on to the back pocket. The 7 For All Mankind logo appears in various locations on other products such as footwear and handbags. In some European markets, the logo features a stylized pair of jeans as the background element rather than the numeral 7.

7 For All Mankind is sometimes mis-associated with the European-based denim brand "Seven7." Seven7 entered the U.S. fashion denim market shortly after 7 For All Mankind, who subsequently challenged Seven7's trademark in court. The case was eventually settled under confidential terms.

We at 7 For All Mankind understand that the integrity of Wikipedia is of the utmost importance. We do not wish to turn this into a marketing opportunity, nor do we wish to censor information which we may find unflattering. We do, however, believe it is important to defend our brand against false statements and to keep our entry from being used against us by competitors.

Please feel free to contact me at the address associated with this username if you have any questions or need clarification.

Thank you for your efforts.

--7forallmankind

I will copy your request to Talk:Seven for all Mankind. You are free to edit the article as you wish, so long as you stay within the boundaries of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Attribution, and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. YechielMan 14:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I was just following the suggestion at Factual Error (enterprise) by posting here. The last time we attempted any edits they were immediately and repeatedly reversed.

(NOTE: LaraLove appears to be addressing the Seven for all Mankind article. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 23:59, 15 June 2007 (UTC))

I wrote an article about the TexShare consortium but I am concerned people will not find it if they type in texshare

Is there a way to tag the article or put in some type of "See Also" function so that people who do a search using all lowercase letters (texshare) will get to the article with the proper spelling, which is TexShare? thanks.

I've made a redirect from texshare to TexShare. Friday (talk) 15:53, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Sandbox

How do I get an article out of the Sandbox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.159.192.10 (talk • contribs)

Not sure what you mean. If you mean how do you clear the sandbox simply click 'edit this page' and clear all the contents below the header before expirementing. Also, please sign your posts. Scottydude _talk 16:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

If you refer to this article, you can copy the content like this:

1. Click on that link to show that revision of the Wikipedia:Sandbox page.
2. Click the edit tab at the top to display the article's wikitext.
3. Right-click in your Web browser in the edit box to display a context menu.
4. Select "Select all" from the context menu.
5. Right-click again and select "Copy".
6. Open another editor window or browser tab of some sort, right-click on it and select "Paste".

Then you will have a copy of the article's wikitext somewhere else. If the article already exists somewhere and you just want to empty the Sandbox, don't worry, that happens automatically every hour or so. --Teratornis 16:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

If you want to do extensive experimentation, you should create an account and make your own sandbox as a user subpage. The main Wikipedia:Sandbox page can be edited by many people at any time, so it's only useful for small quick experiments. --Teratornis 16:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

If you mean how to create a real article instead of editing the sandbox, then see WP:VFAQ#How do I create a new article?. PrimeHunter 16:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Where is it?

I seem to remember the "Are you a Wikipedian" test or something like that. I've searched and searched... where is it? Can someone give me a link? ~Crowstar~ 16:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe Wikipedia:Wikipediholism test ? PrimeHunter 16:57, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's it. Thanks! ~Crowstar~ 17:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Brief formatting change

I don't use IRC so I was wondering if someone could tell me why, for a brief moment all of the articles I loaded had a wierd format. The headings were all centered in one font size and all the links were underlined. Just curious, Scottydude _talk?~

I have no idea what you saw, nor any idea what Web browser you are using, but see if Wikipedia:Browser notes tells you anything useful. --Teratornis 19:46, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

peer review of a biography stub

I wrote extensively to update the biographical stub on Rene Laennec. How do I request that it be 'peer reviewed' to change it from a stub?

Also, I figured out how to find and add a picture from the Wikipedia site, but I don't know how to incorporate a picture from the internet, for example. How do you find out the licensing status, how do you import it, etc?

Thanks for your help. Queequeg804 17:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

You might take a look at Wikipedia:Peer review, but it seems awfully bureaucratic, to me. Corvus cornix 18:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

If you want the stub status removed then you can just do it yourself when the article is expanded. See Wikipedia:Stub#Removing stub status. René Laennec is obviously not a stub now, so I have removed the stub template for you. PrimeHunter 18:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Buccleuch Park

I would appreciate you forwarding direction to Buccleuch Park from Cranbury, N.J. My e-mail address is: <email removed>. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.145.79.147 (talk • contribs)

This is the help desk used for asking questions about using Wikipedia, the free enyclopedia. Try the Reference Desk. Also, please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) after your posts on talk pages. Scottydude _talk 19:35, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Try Google Maps. Cranbury, New Jersey and Buccleuch Mansion both give their coordinates, so you should have no problem looking up both locations in Google Maps and getting directions. --Teratornis 19:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

History of America

Will you please narrate briefly about American History before the entry of Europeans?19:58, 15 June 2007 (UTC)19:58, 15 June 2007 (UTC)~~dr Niranjan Murthy

It's not clear whether you are referring to the United States or the Americas, but in either case, Indigenous peoples of the Americas might be what you're looking for. Corvus cornix 20:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Sherri Martel

The Sherri Martel article is constantly being vandalized, could an admin check this out, and lock it, please? Kris 19:59, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

You should take this to WP:RFPP. Corvus cornix 20:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

History of America

Will you please narrate briefly about American History before the entry of Europeans?20:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)20:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)~~dr Niranjan Murthy My email id (E-Mail removed for security purposes) Thanks

Email removed. Please try the reference desk for these types of questions. Regards Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 20:44, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Article Neutrality

If a page says debate about neutrality of article can you still trust some of the information?

Neutrality relates to the tone in which the article is written. In wikipedia all articles must have neutral tone so as not to be biased. The information in an article that is not neutral may be inflated or one sided but on an objective level the facts are most likely true.

See Wikipedia:Check your facts. Basically, you should trust nothing on Wikipedia. Instead, check the reliable sources that every article is supposed to cite. Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that (almost) anyone can edit, so anything you read here might have been vandalized five minutes ago. Therefore, don't take anything here on face value alone. If you are about to apply information from an article in some way that matters, check the sources, skim through the article history (see if the article shows a lot of reverts which could indicate a lack of consensus), and see all the disclaimers. --Teratornis 20:37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Information added to Wikipedia articles should not come from Wikipedia due to Wikipedia's original research policy. Rather, it should come from Wikipedia reliable sources. If it does, then it is more in line with the information that Wikipedia desires to present to others. As for you question regarding 'a page that says debate about neutrality of article,' such a comment is unlikely to apply to every piece of information in the article. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:47, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

GFDL and cut-and-paste

I'm trying to understand how GFDL works, and recently ran across a situation that got me thinking. If it is a GFDL violation, it is not an earth-shattering one, so I'm not trying to report anyone or get edits sent down the memory hole, but I want to understand the theory.

An editor deleted a paragraph from article Foo without an edit summary. He then pasted the same paragraph to related article Bar, also without an edit summary. I actually agree with the move; my two questions have to do with attribution of the material in the paragraph.

1. Am I correct that technically, in Bar, he has added other people's material, with no attribution, violating the GFDL?
2. Am I correct that if the user had used an edit summary along the lines of "copied material from Foo", then technically someone could look at Foo's history and figure out the contributers, so that would not have been a violation of GFDL?

Thanks for any insight you can provide, or for suggestions on a more appropriate place to ask this. --barneca (talk) 21:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Those are good questions. See WP:MOVE and Wikipedia:Verbatim copying#History Section which might provide some insight. The latter says: As the GFDL was never intended for wiki articles, things get complicated. --Teratornis 23:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Putting at least something like "copied material from Foo" in the edit summary is a good practice and probably the minimum that should be done in such a case (and often is done on Wikipedia). Even better is to include the id of the particular version that was copied from. heqs ·:. 14:04, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you both. Seeing the comment "GFDL was never intended for wiki articles" is a little disorienting, and not what I expected to hear, but now I have some reading material that should clear it up a little. --barneca (talk) 00:00, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Someone harrassing me by blocking my IP

I see someone blocking my IP when I am trying to cleanup/reorganize page/ add information to an article. How can I get someone review my work and let explain me if I am doing something wrong? And what is the right way to do it?

Request someone to review my edits on Quixtar article. I am new to Wiki and do not visit it often. But I thought of contributing some information I thought will benefit others.

The block was justified because you violated WP:3RR, shown here. The time for your block has expired and you can go on with your normal editing. Miranda 22:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Mirada, I understand the 3RR rule now. But request you to please review my edits. Do they qualify as spam? And if someone is deleting information, is the person deleting called a vandal or the person restoring it? As I am new here I agree I need to learn some rules e.g. 3RR and I am sure someone like you can help me.

Might want to contact the blocking administrator, and look over the spam policy. Miranda 23:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

move to WikiSource

I believe that Germans in Argentina is an excellent candidate to be moved to WikiSource or some other wiki project.

How do I do this?

Guroadrunner 22:32, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

See m:Help:Transwiki. --Teratornis 23:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Sandboxes

Where do i go to veiw the "special" sandboxes with the games?

Newen222 22:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

See Category:Wikipedia games. PrimeHunter 22:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Question about Posting Images to Wiki

I have a question about posting images to a Wiki page. I inquired of the copyright holders -- or more specifically, an individual in touch with the copyright holders -- about using their images on Wiki. The images in question are those of speakers presenting at the TED conference held in Monterey, 2007. Here's what I was told:

"Hi,

Apologies for the delay in getting back to you on this. This discussion has taken longer than expected, and as you might imagine, we have quite a lot going at the moment with Africa less than two weeks out.

As I mentioned, it opened issues that we had not addressed before with the photographers. Because both of them make their living from photography (including syndicated images in many cases), they have strong feelings about how their work can and can't be used.

We have reached an agreement with both photographers on the re-use of images by TEDsters and TED speakers. Neither photographer is willing to issue free or fair use rights in writing, but both have agreed that they wouldn't try to stop TEDsters from using them provided that you only use low-res versions (for Robert Leslie -- no larger than the ones on flickr; for Art Streiber -- the ones you have access to). Robert Leslie has asked for photo credit, but Art Streiber asks that you not credit him, since portraits are sort of a different case and these have not been custom printed (or retouched). "

So, given that the copyright holders are essentially giving the `ok' to use these images, may I post them to a Wiki page?

If by "Wiki" you mean "Wikipedia" ("Wiki" is not a correct abbreviation for "Wikipedia"), the answer is probably no if the people in the photographs are still alive (the idea being that if a person is still alive, he or she can still be potentially photographed by someone who will release the photos without copyright restrictions, thus we lose our claim to "fair use" since a free alternative is, in principle, still available). See WP:NFCC. Of course, that hasn't stopped lots of people from uploading similar photographs and claiming fair use, but I think some administrators have been going around deleting such photographs. --Teratornis 23:35, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

You need to correctly request permission and then need to send that permission to 'permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org'. How to ask for permission to use the copyright material of others and When permission is confirmed might assist you. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:08, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

June 16

Where's the article?

A few days ago I created an article in Spanish by translating the original English version but it's not showing. Can you tell me why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.170.235.246 (talk • contribs)

If you created the article in the Spanish Wikipedia then it is somewhere at http://es.wikipedia.org. Contributions by your IP number to the Spanish Wikipedia are not registered here at the English Wikipedia which is located at http://en.wikipedia.org. Instead, they can be seen at http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Contributions/205.170.235.246. Is the article http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Austin ? PrimeHunter 01:25, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

By the way, you can link articles on the same subject in different languages. See Help:Interlanguage links. PrimeHunter 01:32, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Referenced translations missing

The article Moonmilk has 7 links to other languages, of which the following don't exist:

• it:latte di monte
• hu:montmilch
• pt:leite de lua
• ro:montmilch

Of course, each of these could have been deleted for a number of reasons. But in none of the languages did I see a link to "why was this article deleted". The language links have been in the article for quite a while, and have been edited in between, so that it appears unlikely that they never led to articles in the first place. Is there any other explanation for this, or is it just coincidence that it happened in so many languages? — Sebastian 00:10, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

They were added by this edit by 194.138.39.97 who hasn't made many edits. The article was only a sentence at the time. Before deleting them, you might want to confirm with Wikipedia:Translation. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:29, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for looking this up, and for the hint to WP:TIE. I now see that there probably never were articles in those languages, but the IP editor still added useful information - I'll ask on TIE what best to do with that information. — Sebastian 02:31, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

King of Pakistan

Was there a king of pakistan?

King of Pakistan might assist you. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:11, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Inserting a photo

I inserted a photo of a book into Guy de Rothschild but there is some sort of printing appearing with it. I'm new here and (some anonymous edits) and have no idea what it was that I did wring. Can someone help? Warren WL

The printing appearing with the image came with the original, uploaded image. See Image:ContrebonnefortuneRothschild.jpg. Book covers may be fair use to illustrate an article discussing the book in question. However, use of a book cover in an article about the person on the book cover might be copyright infringement. This page has some discussion on the topic. Also see Wikipedia:Non-free content for more information. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:17, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

funnel

what is a funnel? and its functions?

Try the funnel article. - Zeibura ^Talk 02:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Spam filter?

Two users have said they were unable to post to my talk page because of a spam filter? One user said "PS... I can't post on your talk page because of your "spam filter" it says it's because of ORKUT.com...which I am on..."

Any heads up?Sethie 02:25, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Your talk page included the text "orkut.com/Comm", as part of a link. A link tag (<a href="url">text</a>) is automatically created by the software Wikipedia uses when a URL begins with "http://" and is otherwise normal, so I removed the "http://" from the beginning (diff). You can see the spam blacklist, which triggered the filter, here. "\.orkut\.com\/Comm" is the regex there that caused the spam protection filter to go off. Gracenotes^T § 03:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Basically, it's fixed now. Sorry if I gave too many details :| Gracenotes^T § 03:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Interesting... not sure Sethie understands and, thank you so much for fixing it.... your note was very gracious. ;) Sethie 04:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Word processing

Word processing term for feature that allows text to flow down onto the next line without user hitting the return key? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.236.132.16 (talk)

See Word wrap. PrimeHunter 03:25, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

images of super mushak aircraft,s instruments

i need pics and animations of pitot static system of supermushak (MFI-17) aircraft— Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.163.91.166 (talk • contribs) 03:52, June 16, 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest you try searching Google. This is a page for asking questions about Wikipedia itself. -- Kesh 03:57, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Translations

Is it allowed (legal) to translate an existing English article on Wikipedia to another language and post it as an article for the destination language? That would imply that the contents will not be changed at all.

Thanks.

Yes, that's encouraged. See Wikipedia:Translation for more info. - Zeibura^(talk) 04:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Image credits

I'd like to know what the Wikipedia policy is on crediting photographs uploaded under (for example creative commons attribution) license IN THE ARTICLE.

The case that I am referring to is of one photegrapher putting a 'Photo by XXXX YYYYYY' into the thumbnail description of every image. For some reason, this irks me quite a bit. It is not standard on Wikipedia, at all, and it is a bit like me putting my name under an article I just wrote (not legally the same I know, different licenses), so everybody will know:"Hey its me!" So what is the policy on this? MadMaxDog 06:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

That should definitely be removed. Not sure on policy, but it's definitely not something that falls under the MoS - G1ggy ^Talk/_Contribs 06:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the Wikipedia fair use copyright tags, the tags typlcally only requires that "all available copyright information" be listed on the image page, not on the article page. Wikipedia:Captions states that Who took the photo generally is only included in the caption of the image in the Article if the photographer is notable, such as Ansel Adams. You may want to check out Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:33, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Wrong information

While reading Dielectric i found some missprint.Like "EM wave trvel through a dielectric both speed & wavelenth decrease.& frequency remain constant.

MY view is that if wavelength decrease in dielectric material ,then how can frequency remain constant.

frequency = 1/wavelength.

Please check it.

I thought it was $v=f\lambda$, which allows for speed and wavelength to decrease while frequency remains constant. x42bn6 Talk Mess 11:04, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

And note that frequency is one over the time period, not wavelength. Frequency is number of oscillations/waves/anything per second and has dimension s^-1, while 1 over wavelength has dimension m^-1. i.e. the units don't match. x42bn6 Talk Mess 15:09, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Um..you might want to check it out at the Reference Desk, which specialises in general knowledge. Cheers!! -Zachary_crimsonwolf 13:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I am having a problem with signing in

Hi how is everyone today,the reason I am contacting you is that I am having a problem signing in . my sign in name is kenfred yet every time I attempt to sign in I am told that I do not exist .I became a member when I set up my account back in march of this year I have not had a need to ask for any assistance up untill now as I was trying to find a way to mount my old hard drive to retreive my important information from it and then to purge it so that I could use it as a storage drive.Have I done something wrong or to cause you to block me if so please let me know at it may be as simple as the fact that I have not signed in from march untill now, if it is the problem ,could you please help to rectify this problem.Thank you for your time in this matter.Sincerely kenneth clements I look forward to hearing from you ,bye for now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.150.83.195 (talk • contribs).

According to the user list there is no user registered as Kenfred (User:Kenfred). As users are never deleted (no matter how long ago you last signed in), and the account hasn't been renamed, the account has never been created. Might you have used a different spelling for your username, or did you register with one of our sister projects instead? If not, then it appears your registration didn't complete properly, but the username hasn't been taken since so you can still register it if you wish.

Regarding your hard drive issue, if you wish to find out some advice, you can ask at the computing reference desk at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. Hope that helps, mattbr 13:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia

what are the conditions for joining wikipedia and can a dot org domain join it. is it free — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.208.47.6 (talk)

Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. All you need is an account. And the volunteers who help wikipedia are called wikipedians. For more info see: Wikipedia:Introduction . Regards Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 10:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

If you are wondering whether it would be appropriate to make an external link to a given domain then see Wikipedia:External links. PrimeHunter 12:12, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

And if you are considering to make an article about a website then see Wikipedia:Notability (web). If it is your own site then also see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter 12:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Preferences

I went to my user preference page with the aim to seeing how a different "skin" affected the appearance of articles. Having done that, I can access the page, but cannot use some of the functions on the menu, including the "skin" which I want to set back to the default. The current "skin' i have is reaaly bugging me and making it difficult to edit, but when I click on the menu, it doesn't respond at all. --Amandajm 12:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't really know much about skins, but another user might. But in the meantime see: Help:Preferences#Skin, Wikipedia:Skin and m:Skins. Regards Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 12:12, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

The problem that I am having is not just trying to change the skin back. It is as if, having changed the skin, the entire preferences Menu is not functioning, except the time and date option. Everything else doesn't work any more. --Amandajm 12:53, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I am not an expert on this either but trying the page with a different browser might do the trick. If you only have one, the new Safari3 beta, or Mozilla firefox are easy to download, assuming you have a high speed connection.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:01, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I can't help with the other issues you are having, but this link from the Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) FAQ should load your preferences in the default skin and allow you to change your preferences back again. Hope that helps, mattbr 13:25, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! I really beginning to get quite cross! Now I back with the default that looks nice and tidy, I'm happy! --Amandajm 13:38, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Integration?

Why don't wikimedia, wikipedia, wikitionary, Simple Wikipedia and the like all use a single account?

SpeakoutLOUD 14:44, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

They should eventually, it is in the process of being worked out. Viridae^Talk 14:47, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Link: m:SUL. Gracenotes^T § 14:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Help with tables

I'm having trouble getting table code to work properly. Is there a table code guru somewhere who can help me fix the problem? Thanks, Gatoclass 16:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi! I'd be glad to help if I can. What's the problem? Gracenotes^T § 16:19, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Gracenotes would love to help, but more info is available here: Help:Table. Regards Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 16:35, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I've been to the Help table. Unfortunately, it gives a quite inadequate explanation IMO.

My specific problem is with a sortable wikitable. The problem is that if the first cell in a column contains text as well as numbers, the column defaults to alphabetic sort mode instead of numeric sort mode. The help table says that to get around this you have to include the code "sm=n" in the first cell, but it gives no further explanation and no matter how many different ways of including that string I try, it doesn't work and the table continues to sort alphabetically. I just need someone to tell me how to get the "sm=n" string to work. Thanks! Gatoclass 17:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Apparently the instructions would be at Help:Sorting. But to be frank, I am very confused by them. Our sorting script is from the 1990's, with a couple of hacky modifications... it is just baffling to me. Gracenotes^T § 18:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, me too. Thanks very much for trying though :) Gatoclass 05:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Where have the footnotes gone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_electroconvulsive_therapy_in_the_United_Kingdom

I tried to create some footnotes, following the Wiki instructions (at least I thought I was) but they don't appear in a list at the end of the article. Where have I gone wrong? Thanks.Staug73 16:17, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

You cannot use <ref/> to close a reference entry. You must use </ref>. There is a HUGE difference. Youth in Asia 16:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Youth in Asia, and thanks for fixing footnotes in the article. I shall be more careful in future.Staug73 13:00, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

editing email address; deleting second account

Hi -- I joined Wikipedia this morning and, because it's early, entered an incorrect email address on the new user form. The account is steveng57 and I entered steveng@soonic (or some double-letter typo) instead of steveng@sonic.net

And of course when I didn't get an email confirmation of the account setup, I just created another one: steveng68

So I'd like to fix the email typo on the steveng57 account and kill the other account entirely. The only info I can find on modifying user accounts is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cheatsheet -- and it's not helpful in this case.

Can I do this myself, or does a sysop, administrator or bureaucrat have to do it? If the former, pls direct me to a page that tells me how; if the latter, I'd appreciate it if you or someone in tech support could make those changes when you get the time. Also, it seems there's a third option; I could request sysop powers long enough to make the changes myself, then revert to the peasant class? I may have misread that one.

Anyway, let me know when you can. Thanks a lot.

Cheers,

sg

Log in as steveng57, and click on this link. In the email-address field, type in the correct email address. However, user accounts can never be deleted. > Animum < 16:33, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, but so far the confirming email hasn't arrived. Is that because the other login requirements -- password, et, -- are fine and I'm already logged in? I just can't tell from available information. Also, too bad about wiping the other account. Think that might change someday?

And thanks again for getting back. I'm going to go mess with some of the functions and, if I'm cleared at basic security level, then I guess this all worked. If not, I'll send you a message and we can go from there.

Best,

sg

About IRC

Can I invite myself by typing /msg chanserv invite #wikipedia-en-help ?Arnon Chaffin (I'm listening!) 16:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Now you can, since the channel is +g. However, the general way to join a channel is by typing /join #wikipedia-en-help Gracenotes^T § 16:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you,anyway I know how to join a channel thank you for your help.Arnon Chaffin (I'm listening!) 17:01, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I was wrong. You can only invite other users with +g if you're in the channel. (+g != ChanServ inviting) Gracenotes^T § 17:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Trying to fix a problem on the MECHANICAL TELEVISION page.

I can't seem to access the top paragraph for editing. I've edited this paragraph previously, but now can't find the "EDIT" link.

In the top paragraph, I made a statement that only mechanical television electronics come from the twentieth century.

I also mean to say that mechanical television mechanics come from the nineteenth century. Somehow, the current version says instead that the electronics come from the nineteenth century. Here, I want to change "electronics" to "mechanics."

Please help me to find the "EDIT" link for this paragraph.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.193.177.2 (talk • contribs) 13:27, June 16, 2007 (UTC)

Use the "Edit this page" tab/link at the very top of the page. In general, the first section in an article (the lead) doesn't have an edit link associated just with it. --ElKevbo 18:35, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Book mark within an article

Could you tell me. Is there a way to put a reference like see section 45 and link it to section 45? of the article (as you would do with a bookmark in html? --Akc9000 21:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Bookmark (or save to favourites) normally as usual. Then go to that bookmark and then right-click it and go to its properties. To the URL/location, add #your section. So, for example, for this question, bookmark the Help desk. Then change its URL to "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help desk#Book mark within an article". It should then link to this question (as long as it isn't archived, of course). x42bn6 Talk Mess 21:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

When this question archives, its link will be:

• Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 June 16#Book mark within an article

The above link will change from red to blue in a few days. --Teratornis 21:42, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Mark Boyle site

Hello i am Mark boyle's site agent he Makes sites which are generally called Boyle111 and are forum and arcade sites but he currently doesn't have a site but one is going to open in July and i was wondering if it is against the rules for creating a page called Boyle111 (Site) and site info in there and also make a page called Mark Boyle (Site creator) with info about Mark but thats the reason i signed him up on her because i wanted to create one for him and i would be active if this is allowed but if it's not allowed then there is no point in creating a page and getting it delted therefore i won't be active so i would like a quick reply and thank you for reading my enquiry.

Mark's agent

Like it says several questions above, if you are considering creating an article about a website then see Wikipedia:Notability (web). If it is your own site then also see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. -- Rick Block (talk) 21:47, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles typically are built/edited from information contained in Wikipedia reliable sources, such as information from newspapers and books, and usually by people who have no relationship to the topic. As Mark's agent, you may run into conflict of interest problems in creating the Boyle111 article and the Mark Boyle (Site creator) article. Also, writing an article from your personal knowledge may be using original research, which does not meet the No original research policy. For others reading this thread, see Mark Boyle boyle111 on Teenwag. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 21:47, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

hello

please let me know in the easiest way! how to delete my user page, eberything is very confusing, too many options to click, thanx, peter

See How do I delete my user and user talk pages? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 21:40, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Same Names.....but the other individual has "questionable credentials"....??

Hello my name is Robin Galloway. I am a working American Actress here in the US. I seem to be having a cyber war with a Scottish DJ named Robin Galloway....well,not a war exactly.....but he is a confrontational person passive-agressive and across the seas... not a warm person, let's put it this way. I have begun making move very quickly only one year out of graduate school......theater and now moving into television.....i have reviews.....references, sources, "big names" of American theater, writers and directors. Film with whom I have already worked. Links to tv.com,, two of my own personal website's , imbd, etc, etc..... And I am not a confrontational person......but this guy has tried to shut me out at every corner since discovering we shared the same name......taking robingalloway.com......big deal....i could care less. But now it seems he has made a preimtive strike to prevent me from submitting my name and information to Wikipedia. Are there ways to get around this? I noticed his sight is "on watch" because he has no credentials. I do!! Lots of them! I am by no means famous - yet - but I believe this sight to be an excellent and strong marketing tool for professionals across the board....not too mention I was a historian before becoming an actor, and I just could navigate for hours. And I am a Robin Gallowy with an interesting story and history......I am currently working on the first one woman show about growing overseas as a child of the US soldier......in collaboration with a screenwiiter.....22:01, 16 June 2007 (UTC)22:01, 16 June 2007 (UTC)~~.not that i am trying to bump the guy.....how can we share the wikipedia and maintain our names and integrity?

Thank you.

Sincerely, Robin Galloway

Wikipedia has a built-in way for handling two people with the same name. It's called Disambiguation. In this case, we could move his article to Robin Galloway (musician) and you could have yours at Robin Galloway (actress), with the main link going to either a disambiguation page, or the most notable article.

However, we have strict rules about notability. I'm not sure if either of you would satisfy those rules well enough to have your own pages. You'd be best to request someone else write an article about you to prevent a conflict of interest. Hope that helps! -- Kesh 23:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Robin. Are any of the Robin Gallowy's listed at IMBD you? This will help us to give you better assistance. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I am being harassed

sOMEONE IS THREATENING TO BLOCK ME WITHOUT GIVING ME A REASON Warfwar3 22:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

According to your talk page, you've been edit warring and vandalizing. So, yes, they've given reasons you can be blocked. -- Kesh 23:18, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

World Calendar template

I need some help at editing of Template:World Calendar. Can somebody make an uniform of columns. It is quite messy. Let them be spacious. Thanks, --Janezdrilc 22:17, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I must admit I don't understand what the table is meant to show, but I made the columns widths uniform. To increase the width of the whole table (to make it all more "spacious"), add a "width" tag to the first line. E.g.

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" border="1" width="70%"

or whatever percentage (of the whole screen width) that you want. Matt 01:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Very thanks, it works. --Janezdrilc 10:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Unhide

Oops! I wanted to test the "Hide" feature on the current top of page message and it worked just fine but now I can't seem to figure out how to undo that that hiding action. Am I destined to never again get a worldwide WP alert?  :-( ~ hydnjo talk 22:21, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

There is another way but deleting your browser cache/history/private data will work. Ctrl+Shft+Del in Firefox. GDonato (talk) 22:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Tools/Delete Browsing History/Delete In IE. GDonato (talk) 22:24, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I tried that (Safari) without success and also closed the browser app (which really clears the cache) but the message is still hidden. ~ hydnjo talk 22:28, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

So GDonato, what is the other way? ~ hydnjo talk 22:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

On Safari simply click Safari -> Reset Safari... and then OK. This will clear everything (including your Autofill) but not your bookmarks. Scottydude _talk 23:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Pretty radical Scottydude but it did indeed work. So, was the "hide" instruction in the WP cookie(s)? Oh, and thanks for mentioning about the bookmarks or I wouldn't done it - thank you. ~ hydnjo talk 23:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Sure, anytime. Scottydude _talk 02:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

login

Hi, I'm Alethe. I've worked hard on several articles, opened stubs and have groomed others. Once I used Firefox instead of Safari, due to the latter's repeatedly collapsing on my Mac when clicking on Amazon titles, as I did bibliog. research. Consequently I'm asked to login again, but what I tho't was my password isn't working. Apparently, I failed to provide an email address when I first logged in. However, I'd like to keep the name "Alethe", which means 'truth' (from 'not forgotten') in Greek. Any way I can get a new login password without giving it up? Thanks, 74.112.219.182 22:39, 16 June 2007 (UTC)Alethe

If I'm understanding this correctly, you switched browsers and the browser you were using before had you logged in by default, correct? Now that you've switched, you realize that you've forgotten your password. Why not switch back to the old browser, that has you logged in, put in an email address into your preferences, then have your password sent to you? Dismas|^(talk) 22:48, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed - if the cookies are on the computer, you may still be able to use it to log in and provide an email. But in any case, the answers you're looking for can be found at Help:Logging in. I do not believe this is possible, though. However, if it's really bugging you, because you do have a fair number of you might be able to contact a developer at User talk:Secretlondon. Just don't tell him I sent you. The Evil Spartan 22:53, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Naming a page

I would like to create a page on the 1794 treason trials, but I cannot decide whether to name it "1794 Treason Trials" or "1794 treason trials." Help:Page name and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization) did not clear up the matter for me. Sometimes the 1794 Treason Trials are capitalized in the scholarly literature and sometimes not. Are they a proper noun? Are they sometimes a proper noun? Should I default to lower case since they are not always capitalized? Thanks. Awadewit | talk 22:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

As a unique event, I'd go with full capitalization on the title. I would consider it a proper noun, like War of the Roses. -- Kesh 23:20, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

You're probably as knowledgeable as anybody about the subject - use your own discresion; this kind of naming convention issue comes up all the time. ;) The Evil Spartan 23:22, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Awadewit | talk 23:44, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

And ensure you redirect one name to the other. Youth in Asia 00:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Check out how Treason Trials (1794) named their write up. The Wikipedia artice Treason Trial may need to be renamed to provide some clarity (e.g., there were more than one of 'em). Oddly, the articles on John Horne Tooke, John Thelwall, and Thomas Hardy (political reformer) do not mention Treason Trials by name. You might want to fix this (with Wikipedia relialbe sources. It seems like a good topic, one that will fit well within Wikipedia. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

June 17

How do I create an entry?

how do I create an entry?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pacaurora (talk • contribs) 00:16, June 17, 2007 (UTC)

See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. PrimeHunter 00:25, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

And see Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted? for what happens to a large percentage of new articles by new users. Check out the deletion log; several articles are getting deleted every minute. The harsh reality is that Wikipedia has very demanding requirements for encyclopedic content, and often new users have incorrect assumptions about what they can write on Wikipedia. Before you create a new article, it's better to spend some time reading the manuals and making small edits to existing articles that have been around for a while, until you learn how Wikipedia works. --Teratornis 16:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Another tip: look for a WikiProject in your area(s) of interest. Wikipedia:How to write a great article mentions WikiProjects briefly, but you might overlook them if you are in too much of a hurry to start your new article. Haste often makes waste on Wikipedia (or, specifically, deletion of your work), so do take the time to read the instructions first. --Teratornis 17:44, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Business Pages

I noticed that there are pages about Sears JCPenny Wal-mart and so on. It is agaist policy for a person to put a page on here regarding their own business? If not please let me know all of the guidelines as I would like to have a page about my business, it may be small but it is important to me. Thank you Nettie

Please read WP:COI. Putting up a page about your own business may present a conflict of interest. Then, read WP:N and WP:V: if you business is notable (see WP:CORP) and you can provide third-party sources to prove it, an article could be written.

The best course of action would be to request someone else write an article about your company. -- Kesh 01:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles should be developed from Wikipedia reliable sources, such as newspaper articles and books. Of your business is small, it may be unlikely that enough Wikipedia reliable sources exist to create a Wikipedia article. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

help me

i have tried to find the answer to my question in the help files, but i've just given up. apoplogies if it's there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Soulward

i posted the article a few weeks ago but it doesn't appear on a search for C.C. Saint-Clair.

i thank you for your time :) soulward — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soulward (talk • contribs) (e-mail removed for security)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Soulward is your user page. It is not part of the Wikipedia encyclopedia and it is not included in normal searches. If you want to create an article then see WP:VFAQ#How do I create a new article?. PrimeHunter 01:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

That's because it's not an article, it's your userpage. You would need to copy & paste the contents of that page to C.C. Saint-Clair for it to show up as an actual article. However, the article does not read like an encyclopedia entry, more like a synopsis of the book. Not to mention tons of original research. It needs rewritten before you move it to an article. Be sure it satisfies our guidelines on biographies of living persons. -- Kesh 01:10, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Soulward. You are in luck. C.C. Saint-Clair has posted her press clippings, the very sources you may need to develope a Wikipedia article on her. If you need assistance on developing an article on her, please contact me directly. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Searching for images and help articles

Hi, is there any way to:

1. search for Wikipedia images by keyword?
2. search Wikipedia help pages (only)?

Matt 01:18, 17 June 2007 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.30.101 (talk)

First use the normal search box but click "Search" and not "Go". Then use the search box at the bottom and choose where to search. PrimeHunter 01:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, would you know it? I have never noticed that one before. Thank you. Matt 01:35, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Infoboxes

How do I create an infobox? The pages I found on it are too confusing, and most of them just say how to edit the information in an infobox. I'm playing around with Template:Infobox a little in the sandbox, but, once I get my infobox created, where do I put it? And I don't know much about writing code for it, but I want to learn. --Tea and crumpets 02:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, there are two types of infoboxes. Some subjects already have predefined infoboxes for various types of articles (see Wikipedia:Infobox_templates). If you want to create your own infobox, it might be easire to use Template:Infobox. The three sample entries are there to indicate how to create an infobox.

Look at User:RJaguar3/Sandbox and User:RJaguar3/Sandbox 2. In the first sandbox, I cut and pasted the code from T:I. Look at the code. The things in triple brackets are variables, which allow the infobox's content to change. Look at the code for Sandbox 2. I've put User:RJaguar3/Sandbox in double braces and defined each of the variables by using the form

variable1=foo|variable2=bar

and so on for each variable. The values I put in for each variable determine what the infobox will display.

I hope this helps. If you have any more questions, leave them on my talk page or right here in this section. Thanks. RJaguar3 | u | t 02:30, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, try finding a WikiProject related to the subject at hand, they might already have a similar infobox and if not would probably be more than willing to help. akuyume^T_C 02:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Template:Infobox_kana is a box with information, but it is not actually an infobox (called "infobox template") as that term is used in Wikipedia. As stated in Wikipedia:Template namespace, templates are used to duplicate the same content across more than one page. It appears that Template:Infobox_kana is such a template. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 04:02, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Can't Create An Account

I have tried many times to create an account but for some reason nothing happens. I am taken back to the page to create an account.

Try emailing the encyclopedia though the "contact us" link to request an admin to securely create an account for you, and report the bug. --Haemo 10:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Hello, I'm appologize for not finding this info in help so far, but my question is on disambiguation pages. I am interested in writing an article on a word that is a homonymy in the computer technology industry - which I teach in. The term is 'hardlink', meaning to link from a physical object - like hyperlink. When I do a search for hardlink I do not see a disambiguation page for the option of meanings. Is this something I can create or since the meaning I am looking for does not exist as a stub does that mean that I can not add it?

Thanks for any help.

You can create the page Hardlink (disambiguation). First create your article Hardlink (homonymy) or whatever you prefer. Place an {{otheruses}} template on the top of each article linking either to the disambiguation page or the other article. LaraLove^T/_C 05:23, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Is Hardlink helpful? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 05:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I think he/she wants to write an article on "Hard link" as opposed to "Hardlink", homonyms with apparently different meanings. If this is the case then she will have to rename the existing Hardlink page, then create a disambiguation page called "Hardlink", followed by creating the new article Hard link. This process is outlined at Disambiguation. JimDunning 05:47, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I think I understand. The current search result for 'hardlink' finds 'Hard link' but my interest is in creating 'Hardlink', which is why I thought a disambiguation page would be needed. Thank you both for your assistance.

Make sure that the topic is encyclopedic, not just a definition, which should be submitted at Wiktionary. -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 08:37, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, I think I figured it out. The redirect Hardlink previously lead only to the article Hard link. Both Hardlink (disambiguation) and Hardlink (homonymy) were created, and Hardlink was redirected to Hardlink (disambiguation). I think some is going to slap a merge tag on all of it. I've tagged the two article talk pages with {{WikiProject Computer science|class=|importance=}}, so perhaps someone from that Wikiproject will give the scheme a second look. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 15:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

help me

If you need assistance on developing an article on her, please contact me directly. -- Jreferee (Talk) 03:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

jreferee, i've done as suggested in the reply that came just before yours and have pasted the text under CC Saint-Clair http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.C._Saint-Clair, but it still doesn't show. i've looked up your pages but there's so much info there that i can't find how to contact you directly, as i'd love to accept your offer. cheers ~ S— Preceding unsigned comment added by Soulward (talk • contribs) 04:16, June 17, 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by "it doesn't show"? It shows just fine under C.C. Saint-Clair. -- Kesh 04:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes you need to hit the F5 key to reload a page just after it is created so that it appears on your computer screen. It is there. I'll clean it up a little before the deletion crew hits it. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 05:28, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok. that'd be great, Jreferee :) i'll keep checking this space for a while, looking for confirmation that all is A Ok or to see how else you can help me get this right- cheers Soulward 05:43, 17 June 2007 (UTC) soulward

I revised the C.C. Saint-Clair article. Any other questions regarding the article can be posted on the C.C. Saint-Clair talk page at Talk:C.C. Saint-Clair. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 06:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Watchlist question

Is there a way to add all of the articles under a particular category to your watchlist, without having to manually go into all of the articles and press "watch?"----La Parka Your Car 05:21, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

No. Sorry. Dismas|^(talk) 05:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Using popups, you can hover the mouse over each link and click the watch link. You don't have to open the page that way ;) - G1ggy ^Talk/_Contribs 05:32, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Summary of Articles

Please ask all the contributors of wikipedia to include summaries of all articles. Thank you.

I don't think that's going to happen - nutshells are provided on policy and guideline pages to get to the heart of an issue; otherwise, we're an encyclopedia and are bound to not include summaries for general-purpose articles. --Haemo 10:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

We do already ask all contributors to include edit summaries (it's right down there at the bottom of every edit window), but the MediaWiki software does not force contributors to type edit summaries, nor is there a proactive feature such as a blank-summary warning dialog that would make contributors more aware of edit summaries and how they help other contributors. So it's quite possible for a contributor to be lazy and deliberately ignore the edit summary field, or to be completely oblivious to it. (The design philosophy of Wikipedia in some ways appears to favor convenience for the user who edits over the convenience of other users who try to understand what that first user did.) Also see WP:LEAD which tells how an article's lead section should introduce and summarize the article's topic. --Teratornis 15:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

if i just started an account.........

how do I set up my username "profile"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elpasohighdesert (talk • contribs)

First, remember to sign all your posts with "~~~~" so that we can see who you are! :o) To get to your user page, just locate the page called "User:username". In your case, it would be User:Elpasohighdesert. If you're logged in, you can also access your page by clicking on your user name at the top of the page.

Once you're there, you can then draw up your page, and save it. See WP:UP for more info on what to include, etc. tiZom_(2¢) 07:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Also see Help:Preferences, which might include some aspects of what you had in mind when you wrote "profile." I don't think Wikipedia commonly uses the word "profile" like that; for example, the word does not appear on User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia. The main things you customize after you create your account are your user page and preferences. I see you already received a welcome, but welcome again! Be sure to read all the pages linked from your welcome message before you attempt any major edits to articles. Also be aware that Wikipedia may be different from anything you have tried before; in particular, it takes time for many people to get used to the idea that anything we write here is likely to be changed by someone else. Try not to take offense if you write something you think is great, and then someone comes along and deletes it. As the Editor's index shows, Wikipedia has an incredibly complex set of policies, guidelines, and procedures, and they take some time to learn. --Teratornis 15:45, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Problem in notes

Can anyone work out what has gone wrong at William Shakespeare#Notes?

Compare the text on the page:

These dates use the Julian calendar. Under the Gregorian calendar, Shakespeare died on May 3. Others scholars, though, discount this, stating that the parallels are simply commonplace.

With the text on the edit screen:

An essay by Harold Brooks suggests Marlowe's Edward II influenced Shakespeare's Richard III, Other scholars, though, discount this, stating that the parallels are simply commonplace.

I assume the second is correct - it makes more sense. I've removed all markup and references from these sentences, above, although they have lots and presumably that's where the problem lies. Also, if it helps, note that the stuff about the Julian Calendar is in the preceding note. AndyJones 08:42, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Someone screwed up a ref tag; they used <ref name=Cal> instead of <ref name=Cal/> which wipes out everything until the next <ref> tag. I fixed it by adding in the slash, which now makes the rest of the line parse properly. --Haemo 10:02, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

See WP:FOOT for more information about <ref> tags. --Teratornis 18:01, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks guys. AndyJones 12:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

How do I create my own new page?

I want people to know what my internet radio station is all about so how do I create my own new page?

Well, before you do that, make sure that your station is notable according to our guidelines, and that you can cite reliable sources to back that up. Then, read this page to help you make a new page. --Haemo 09:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Self-made smiley template on talkpages?

I made my own template (in my namespace) for using smileys , my question: Am I allowed to use this template in public talkpages like this one? If not, then what about talkpages of other users? I suppose that will be up to them right? I intended to make this a public template but I saw the Template:smiley had been deleted many times before. Freestyle 09:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

That should be fine because it's in your user space. Template:smiley didn't belong in template space as it has no encyclopedic value, but you can generally get away with these things in user space. Try to remember, though, that Wikipedia is not a social networking site :) - Zeibura^(talk) 09:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I see. Nothing wrong though with showing your emotion when all you can do is type... Thanks for your answer. Freestyle 10:00, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You might want to look over Wikipedia:Emoticons. Also, to get an idea of how others use a particular emoticon, go to the image page of an emoticon and click "What links here." -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 15:23, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Only half of the page saves

Just started an article called List of Cricket incidents and when I submitted it only the first half of the page saved. The second half of it, including references and categories are non existent yet if I click 'edit page' they are there. How can I fix this problem? Cheers Crickettragic 11:42, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You messed up with the <ref> tags. You used <ref> as a closing tag instead of </ref>. I fixed it. 84.144.253.195 11:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy assistance, cheers mate Crickettragic 11:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem. 84.144.253.195 12:01, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Key word Mannatech not neutral -- admin owning definition

There is very biased information being selected for formulating the definition for Mannatech. The entire definition is slanted heavily toward a negative nature. I have attempted to communicate with the admin about the problem but there is clearly no wish on their part to establish a neutral definition. Please let me know what can be done from here, if anything.Cosmochao 12:08, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

It looks like you all have quite the edit war going there. I suggest a request for comment about the article. I would also like to remind you to remember that you aren't creating a definition for the company. You are attempting to neutrally report what other sources have said. We haven't established a "neutral definition" for child abuse or world peace, either.—WAvegetarian (talk) 12:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Please review Resolving disputes carefully to see if the process there can help you resolve this dispute. You and the other contributors involved have been having a discussion about the edits, so it's safe to say you're at the first step, Talk to the other parties involved. Since the article has now been protected by an admin, this may be an opportunity for all involved to engage in the second step of the process, Disengage for a while. This will give editors time to review the other options offered in the dispute resolution process and choose an appropriate course.

Please ensure that reliable third-party sources are used for all new edits, use Edit Summaries to minimize inadvertent reverts, and assume good faith. Consideration of forking the article content and creating a specific section addressing the controversy surrounding the company and its products may be an option as well. JimDunning 13:02, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You might want to review Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 15:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Notification of page alterations

Hey guys, Does Wiki have the capability of allowing a user to sign up to a notification system for when a page is altered? If so, how do you access it? If not, maybe it is something you could consider. Regards, Ryan

It sure does. If you register a username, you can add pages to your watchlist using the watch tab at the top of your screen. Then the my watchlist link will take you to a page showing the last change made to each article on your watchlist.—WAvegetarian (talk) 12:42, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Ryan, if you're talking about a push notification (similar to eBay notifying bidders about new activity), then no, WP does not have that capability (the servers and you could potentially be overloaded). You could consider using a service like http://www.changedetection.com to watch a select few pages, although I can't vouch for it as I've never had direct experience with it. JimDunning 13:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually we do, via the recent changes IRC feed. But to get anything useful out of that, you'll have to write your own client/script to monitor the channel, or perhaps find one written by someone else. Actually, MediaWiki does have feature where you can ask to be e-mailed whenever any page on your watchlist changes, but it has been disabled on the English Wikipedia, presumably so that the servers wouldn't collapse under the load of sending all those e-mails. It's enabled on Commons, though, for example. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 22:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Oy! Created page by mistake

While attempting to archive an old discussion, I mistakenly created a new page called Original version. Will someone please blow this away for me (I don't know how).

Tnx, --Ravpapa 14:17, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

deleted. Viridae^Talk 14:18, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You can ask for deletion directly by adding {{db-author}} to the top of the page to be deleted. This alerts an Admin that the page's author wants it deleted (you might also include your rationale in the edit summary). As long as you're the primary contributor to the page, it will usually be deleted without further discussion. Jim Dunning | talk 14:24, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

So how do I go about getting a name change?

I have read my Right to vanish, but how to I go about getting a name change. Which bureaucrat do I contact? Vagish 15:10, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Changing username should have the answers for which you seek. --ElKevbo 15:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You can request a name change at Wikipedia:Changing username. Any talk pages that you have signed will still display your former username. If you feel strongly about your name no longer being on visible pages on the site, you can edit these pages to remove your signature. (Your old signature will still appear in diffs and in earlier versions of the pages.) Jim Dunning | talk 15:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Adminship

Just out of curiosity, who is currently the youngest administrator? Or better still, how old is the youngest administrator? Many thanks.

There's no way to tell the age of any admin. Are you referring to the admin's tenure? Jim Dunning | talk 15:43, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Some administrators reveal their ages, but, ironically, young Wikipedians are discouraged from revealing their age and they are also removed. Off the top of my head, I think I recall someone who was 12 pass adminship, but, obviously, I'm not allowed (or, rather, ethically and security-bound) to reveal who it is. x42bn6 Talk Mess 15:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Page creation

I'm trying to create a page called Thomas Baxter. When I do a search, the name Thomas Baxter seems to only take me to this url: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_J._Bulger&action=submit

How can I create a new page named Thomas Baxter that won't be tied to the above url?

Wenda Crawford

If appropriate, revise [13]. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 15:45, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

There is a redirect from the Thomas Baxter page: it appears Bulger used that name as an alias. I think a Thomas Baxter disambiguation page will have to created. Jim Dunning | talk 15:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Since there is a redirect from the Baxter article to the Bulger article (because Bulger used Baxter as an alias), a decision must be made as to whether Thomas Baxter should point to only "Thomas Baxter" (Wendy's article), or to both Baxter and Bulger. In other words, is it still a valid concern that readers may search for Bulger using his alias? If the redirect is no longer needed, then it can be modified and replaced with Wendy's article. If it is still needed, then a disambiguation page is required so readers can choose between the two articles. Jim Dunning | talk 16:01, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Stupid ref tag issue

I can't figure out why my tag at Fantastic_Four:_Rise_of_the_Silver_Surfer#Reception (tag 19), isn't reading like the others on the page for an internet cite. The date shows up by the author insted of after the article title and publisher. what am I doing wrong? ThuranX 16:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

How about now? --Smokizzy (talk) 17:02, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

(ec)You have used {{cite web}} whereas the others use {{cite news}}, both of which provide a slightly different layout. Hope that helps, mattbr 17:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

That helps. Thanks to both of you. I'll adjust to cite news, and that should resolve it. ThuranX 17:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

procedure of getting Indian equivalency of American degrees

I am interested in getting equivalence of American degrees . Pl. give me the office address and phone numbers.please reply at [email address removed] pradeep j jha

Sorry, Wikipedia cannot help with your question. YechielMan 21:17, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

This help desk is where Wikipedia answers questions about Wikipedia. Wikipedia's reference desk is where Wikipedia answer questions not related to Wikipedia itself. The reference desk probably is where you want to post your question. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 04:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia may be able to help. See: Bachelor's degree#United States, Bachelor's degree#India, and Academic degree#Types of academic degree: United States. Most articles about universities here have contact information or links to official university Web sites which routinely contain contact information. To find a specific institution see List of universities and colleges by country. We don't e-mail answers from the Help desk, sorry; the Help desk functions as a wiki page which archives rather than as an e-mail discussion list. --Teratornis 05:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Displaying GMT, not "Wikitime"

Hi, How can I get the Wiki to display GMT, i.e. an hour later than is displayed by CURRENTTIME or LOCALTIME. Thanks. Hogyn Lleol 18:47, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Did you look at Help:Preferences#Time zone? I'm asking because I can't tell from your question whether you already tried changing your preferences (i.e., select Special:Preferences and the "Date and time" tab). If you already tried that and it didn't work the way you want, please give some more details about the problem you are seeing. --Teratornis 20:16, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I've looked all over for help! My preferences already state that my local time is 1 hour different. I'm really only playing, but what I want is a box on my User page along the lines of "It's 20:48 on Sunday 17 June", but both CURRENTTIME and LOCALTIME both display CURRENTTIME. Whislt the local time is displayed on many users pages, it doesn't work on Userpage, so is there anything like a bit of code I can use to show it? Hogyn Lleol 20:38, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

It works on my user page. Corvus cornix 01:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

There's probably a parameter on localtime like |UTC-5}}. --(Review Me) R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 01:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you really want mw:Extension:TimeZoneInfo. I don't see it here on Special:Version's list of installed extensions. But you could install it on your own instance of MediaWiki (see mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick for instructions on how to run MediaWiki as your personal wiki). There are, of course, lots of Web pages that display the current time around the world; search for some with Google:time zone. And don't forget to search the Help desk archive for: time zone to see what has come up here before. --Teratornis 05:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Get the stats of my edits so far

Can I get the consolidated list of my edits thus far? If yes, How?Hallenrm 18:57, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

1. List of edits
2. Statistics and most edited pages

Prodego ^talk 19:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

How to find an article that has been redirected by someone

One of my articles Energy (chemistry) was mischeviously redirected to Energy can I locate the contents of that article? Hallenrm 19:01, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

When you go to Energy (chemistry), click the link in "(Redirected from Energy (chemistry))" at the top of the page you are redirected to. Then click history, and then the timestamp of your revision. However, it looks like Energy (chemistry) was actually merged into Energy here. Prodego ^talk 19:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

No the content that appears is totally different from the content of Energy (Chemistry). How can it then be a merge? Hallenrm 06:39, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Cells in table

A			B
1	2	3	4	5	6

I have such a table. For now cells A and B each have 3 cells below. But I want that cell A have 3,5 cells below it self (also half of violet cell) and cell B have only 2,5 cells below it self (second half of violet cell). What shall I do? Please edit the code.

It should look like this:
|---------|------|
|--|--|--|-.-|--|--|

Look also an image of table. Thanks a lot. --Janezdrilc 19:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Just split up the 4th column like this:

A				B
1	2	3	4		5	6

— Sebastian 19:58, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again, it really works. --Janezdrilc 20:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit summary question

It is about time I asked this question. Whenever I revert to a previous edition of an article (be it due to vandalism or what have you) I always write 'rvv' in the edit summary box. What I would like to do is have that automatic thing where you get 'Undid revision by.... ' or 'Reverted to ..... ' - what do I have to fill in, in order to obtain this? Many thanks indeed.

When you check the diff of a page, it has a little link that says UNDO. when you click that, it automatically does the edit summary ur were talking about. Try it on this page! but don't revert! It only happens on the second newest edit i believe Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 19:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

For more help, see Help:Reverting and WP:UNDO. Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 19:57, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

By the way, you should only be using rvv for obvious vandalism, as it stands for "revert vandalism". Using it elsewhere is likely to aggravate good-faith contributors, who don't take kindly to being tarred as vandals. For non-vandalism reverts, you should always give a brief explanation of why you're reverting in the edit summary, so you might put "rv - fair use galleries are not permitted" or some such instead of "rvv". Cheers, --YFB ¿ 20:00, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Further to the above, as a registered user, if you select "history" of an article, then hover over the date of the desired revert, the drop-down box will offer a number of options, including "rev". Select this, wait a couple of seconds, and it will automatically revert to this earlier version, giving the detail you requested. Hogyn Lleol 20:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

The drop down box you are referring to, Hogyn Lleol, is not a feature of MediaWiki, but a user script originally created by User:Lupin. You can find it at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. Harryboyles 15:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Excellent! You guys are the best.

Also, the undo link only provides an automatic summary if you undo just one edit (that I've seen, anyway). However, there are some programs and similar devices many people use to edit Wikipedia (especially when vandalism reverting is involved), and they often create edit summaries for the common tasks they perform. See Category:Wikipedia tools, particularly Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser. Confusing Manifestation 23:41, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

looking for jewish cantors

i would like to get into cantors Moshe stern and others

If you want to read about Jewish cantors, please see Category:Hazzans. YechielMan 21:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Is there ANY way to delete an account and the history of it

Hello,

Just wondering if there was ANY way possible to delete an account and all of its history including edit page history and the name changing log. ANY way at all. If this might have to do with an administrator, how do I get in touch with them? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Projectileman (talk • contribs)

Accounts cannot be deleted, but you can request that your User and User Talk page be deleted by placing {{db|U1, User requests delete}} on the pages in question. However you will have to use the account in question to place this tag. Furthermore, I believe can also request the account be blocked from further edits. akuyume^T_C 20:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

See How do I delete my user and user talk pages? and m:Right to vanish. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 04:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Article rename?

Hello there. I found an article called Make new entry but it seems the original editor of the article wanted it to be called Self-Compassion. I am not sure what to do about it, as it isn't wikified at all. I am worried someone may list it for speedy deletion. This would be a shame as it seems to have quite a few references and clearly represents some hard work. I am happy to help add wikilinks etc to the article. Any advice would be appreciated. What should I do? Best regards... 195.137.96.79 21:24, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Moved to the correct location (Self-compassion). I'll wikify the article while I'm at it. x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

It was created as the only edit by User:Kristinneff and the only link is to http://www.self-compassion.org/ which is by "Kristin Neff". Google searches indicate some complete sentences are copied from other sources. I would investigate potential copyvio problems before spending time on this. PrimeHunter 22:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

6 of the references are by "K. D. Neff". There may also be WP:COI problems here. PrimeHunter 22:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

OK thanks a lot for your help here folks. I'll read up about conflict of interest and copyvio and see what I can do, now that it's there as a propper article, though psychology isn't really my thing. Thanks a lot. Best regards 195.137.96.79 22:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

It does seem like a notable topic by a quick Google search (but of course that can just be meaningless, and I am nowhere near psychology in terms of knowledge). Although I've wikified the article, I've let the author know about WP:COI but it does seem a shame that an article that seems notable has problems. If anyone is confused about this, see the original version. x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Eek, actually I think I'd do more harm than good editing this article as it really isn't my topic and I'm not really experienced enough here to deal with any potential WP:COI and WP:COPYVIO issues. Thanks again for helping me on this - I encountered the original article using the Random Article function - and I just thought I'd bring it to your attention. Best regards 195.137.96.79 23:35, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

why is PE wiki down?????

I try to use PE Wiki over the last whole week and this is all I get why??

Server Error in '/' Application. Too many connections Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlException: Too many connections

Source Error:

Line 422: } Line 423: con = new MySqlConnection(ConString); Line 424: con.Open(); Line 425: Line 426: return con;

Source File: g:\home\cmce.se\pe-wiki.info\www\App_Code\Service.asmx.cs Line: 424

Stack Trace:

[MySqlException: Too many connections]

  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.PacketReader.CheckForError() +91
  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.PacketReader.ReadHeader() +229
  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.PacketReader.OpenPacket() +119
  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.PacketReader.ReadOk() +10
  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.NativeDriver.AuthenticateOld() +217
  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.NativeDriver.Authenticate() +116
  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.NativeDriver.Open() +1140
  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlPool.CreateNewPooledConnection() +139
  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlPool.GetPooledConnection() +49
  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlPool.GetConnection() +115
  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlPoolManager.GetConnection(MySqlConnectionString settings) +215
  MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlConnection.Open() +143
  PE.Service.GetConnection() in g:\home\cmce.se\pe-wiki.info\www\App_Code\Service.asmx.cs:424
  PE.Service.LoadData() in g:\home\cmce.se\pe-wiki.info\www\App_Code\Service.asmx.cs:151
  PE.Service..cctor() in g:\home\cmce.se\pe-wiki.info\www\App_Code\Service.asmx.cs:50

[TypeInitializationException: The type initializer for 'PE.Service' threw an exception.]

  PE.Service.GetConnection() in g:\home\cmce.se\pe-wiki.info\www\App_Code\Service.asmx.cs:416
  PE.PageBase..ctor() in g:\home\cmce.se\pe-wiki.info\www\App_Code\Template.cs:39
  PE.Welcome..ctor() +23
  ASP.default_aspx..ctor() in c:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\662f66fa\e3fcba7f\App_Web_3v7e9-zp.8.cs:0
  __ASP.FastObjectFactory_app_web_3v7e9_zp.Create_ASP_default_aspx() in c:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\662f66fa\e3fcba7f\App_Web_3v7e9-zp.34.cs:0
  System.Web.Compilation.BuildResultCompiledType.CreateInstance() +49
  System.Web.Compilation.BuildManager.CreateInstanceFromVirtualPath(VirtualPath virtualPath, Type requiredBaseType, HttpContext context, Boolean allowCrossApp, Boolean noAssert) +115
  System.Web.UI.PageHandlerFactory.GetHandlerHelper(HttpContext context, String requestType, VirtualPath virtualPath, String physicalPath) +31
  System.Web.UI.PageHandlerFactory.System.Web.IHttpHandlerFactory2.GetHandler(HttpContext context, String requestType, VirtualPath virtualPath, String physicalPath) +40
  System.Web.HttpApplication.MapHttpHandler(HttpContext context, String requestType, VirtualPath path, String pathTranslated, Boolean useAppConfig) +139
  System.Web.MapHandlerExecutionStep.System.Web.HttpApplication.IExecutionStep.Execute() +120
  System.Web.HttpApplication.ExecuteStep(IExecutionStep step, Boolean& completedSynchronously) +155

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.42; ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.210

This help desk is only for help with the editing of Wikipedia. Furthermore, we are not mind readers, thus we do not know what PE wiki is. If it is another wiki ran with MediaWiki software, perhaps you should visit the MediaWiki support forums or try a Google Search. akuyume^T_C 22:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I assume you mean www.pe-wiki.info. I am getting the same error. You can still look at (older versions) of pages by using the google cache, do a search with [14], add a keyword, and click the 'in cache' link at a search result. Browsing the site this way doesn't seem to be possible though. As far as I know PE-Wiki is not in any way associated with wikipedia, so we can not tell you why it is down. Maybe it's just overloaded? ssepp^(talk) 22:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

A Google search shows a problem is discussed at [15]. That forum seems a better place to discuss PE-Wiki problems. PrimeHunter 22:20, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

We are not mind readers but it seems some here are pretty good Google readers. If there ever is a Google Olympics I think the Wikipedia Help desk team would make a decent showing. --Teratornis 05:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

What was wrong with the picture?

I uploaded a picture of Peri Gilpin PeriGilpin.JPG a few days ago and yet now I find it deleted because it was "not fair use". But why wasn't it? It was a small web-resolution screenshot taken from an episode of Frasier just for illustrative purposes. I've seen loads of this type of image on here before so what did I do wrong exactly?

You can contact the editor who deleted it [16] at User talk:Jeffrey O. Gustafson. PrimeHunter 22:46, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You must always include a fair use rationale for any image you claim for fair use. In addition, if it's a screen shot from the TV show, then under fair use, it can only by used on an article about the show. Fair use is generally only allowed when there is no possibility of someone taking a public domain picture. Since Peri Gilpin is still alive and not a hermit, somebody somewhere with a camera would be able to take a picture of her at some point. Corvus cornix 01:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

It is fair use in an article on Peri Gilpin, but it is not Wikipedia fair use in a Wikipedia article on Peri Gilpin. Wikipedia has requirements in addition to fair use laws. The uploaded a picture of Peri Gilpin would only be Wikipedia fair use in a Wikipedia article about that specific Frasier episode. Yes, there are loads of improperly used fair use images, but someone eventually will get around to tagging and bagging them. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 05:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Using a web based IRC client

I can vaguely remember that there are two tools that are designed to connect to the Wikipedia IRC channels. One goes to #wikipedia, #wikipedia-en, or #wikipedia-en-help, and can be found at WP:IRC. There's another one that only connects to #wikipedia, but I can't find it. If someone knows where it is, could you please leave a note on my talk page (and where you found it, if possible). Thanks, G1ggy ^Talk/_Contribs 23:18, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Crockery Township article

I'm brand new to Wikipedia. How do I find out how to locate a source cited in a Wikipedia article? The article on Crockery Township refers to an oral history published by someone I've never heard of, and mentions facts I have never run across. I would like verification of the facts by referring to the source cited in the article. Is that even possible?Chasm 23:18, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You'd be talking about Crockery Township, Michigan and the reference entitled Boom and Bust: A Brief Oral History of Nunica, I would guess? Google doesn't give me any results for the title other than the article itself, so I would suggest your first point of call would be a library - I'm not sure where you live, but I suspect a state or national library would be more capable of helping you than a local one. Confusing Manifestation 23:24, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You could ask the editor who added the source [17] at User talk:Pianoguy. But the latest edit by Pianoguy was 13 May 2007. PrimeHunter 23:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Boom and Bust: A Brief Oral History of Nunica is not on Amazon.com and a google search for Kent Publishing House does not clarify things. Since the book is not used for in-line citation (e.g., footnotes), if there are facts that you find shady, there is nothing wrong with deleting them or putting a {{fact}} next to the fact. I would try contacting User talk:Pianoguy first, but proceed after a few days if there is no response. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 05:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Flexible image

There is an image on the top of my user site. But the size fits just for 17'' screen (I selected pixels so). That means when I work with 19'' screen, the image is too narrow. Beside I don't know how does it look like on laptop screen. Can somebody make the image flexible? --Janezdrilc 23:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

What you want is a width of "100%". To my knowledge. Wikipedia bans percentage-based widths. Why? I have no clue. It could be that someone thinks they are evil. It could be that they are too hard to program into the wiki program. It could be that the programmers don't know that percentages can be used in html. Until they allow percentages, you are stuck using a fixed-pixel width and hoping for the best. --Kainaw ^(talk) 14:43, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio's

What is the procedure when you find out that someone is apparently inserting copyvio's into articles? Thanks, Gatoclass 23:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Revert and warn using {{uw-copyright}}. Repeated offences can be treated as vandalism ({{uw-vandalism3}}, for example). x42bn6 Talk Mess 00:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

June 18

Deletion history for a specific article

I'm a bit puzzled. A few months ago, I read a Wikipedia article entitled "Andrew Joseph Galambos". I was keenly interested in it since I had been a student of his in the 70's and 80's, and have not seen much information on him in the media. When I attempted to revisit the article today, it was not there. After reading the deletion policies of Wikipedia, I would suspect that the article's deletion may have been due to a lack of published references. Is there a way that I can review the discussion for that deletion? I have not been able to locate an archive of such discussions.

It doesn't appear to have been deleted ([18]). It was just redirected on the first edit. So it can be concluded that the article never existed for the subject. Are you sure the spelling is correct, or that you didn't see it at another wiki? x42bn6 Talk Mess 00:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) It looks like the article in question is Andrew Galambos. You can see the following in the deletion log:

14:13, 10 January 2007 Neil (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Andrew Galambos" (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Galambos (2nd nomination)) (Restore)

This means the article was deleted following the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Galambos (2nd nomination). -SpuriousQ (talk) 00:11, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the responses. The deletion discussion certainly clarifies the issue. As a Galambos partisan, I am disappointed, but on reflection, not surprised. History will have to speak further to establish his fame. You guys are a tough crowd, but the incident illustrates something I had forgotten: an encyclopedia is a digest of existing literature, not a place for original source material. I only wish I had copied the original article; it never dawned on me that it would ever disappear. Maybe I'll start a blog on him. -Mosensible 05:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Per a Google search, there seems enough to create a new article on Andrew Galambos. If you create the article and footnote each sentence with a legitimate source, it probably won't get deleted. You might be able to get a copy of the deleted article per Wikipedia:Userfication. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 05:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Move over corner image

How do I make it so that one of the images in the top right corner on User:R will move over if there's another image that makes them overlap? --(Review Me) R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 00:57, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Reply on talk page --_Hdt83 ^Chat 23:45, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Current Events Box

Hello everyone,

How do you add the "This article documents a current event. Information may change rapidly as the event progresses" box to an article?

Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vertciel (talk • contribs)

{{Current}}. PrimeHunter 02:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Admin abuse

I'm just wondering where I can report a un-fair and abuses admin.Mikel-Fikel 82

WP:ANI. Miranda 02:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Though, I would ask you to think carefully before you do that: some admins seem to have some legitimate complaints about you, as detailed on your talk page. You may find that you won't experience the most supportive environment for your complaints, given this evidence. Charlie-talk to me-what I've done 02:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I should also warn you that unless you provide links to the supposed abuse, the admins at ANI will probably ignore your complaints. Corvus cornix 02:40, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Damage

another word for damage —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.143.136.58 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia is not a thesaurus but you may find useful links there. See also damage. PrimeHunter 02:49, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

The question is such a tempting straight line. --Teratornis 05:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

donal logue

Hi- I am Donal Logue- I would really like to use a different photo than the one someone posted of me on wikipedia- can you help me do this?

Sure! Grab a camera, take a good picture, and then upload by releasing it to the public domain. There are prompts on the "File Upload Wizard" to the left. --Haemo 05:38, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

To explain a little more, the problem is that we have a very special free license; we can't have copyrighted images of living people up, because it violates that license. If you're taking a picture, then it shouldn't be a problem. --Haemo 05:40, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

If you need more help, you can email me by clicking my name, and following the links. --Haemo 05:40, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe the person pushing the camera button to take Donal Logue's photo would be the one to give permission. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 06:06, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, I figure Mr Logue knows how to use the timer on his camera ;) --Haemo 06:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Or he could take the picture in a mirror. Corvus cornix 17:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I ask for advice how to deal best with these Baha'i topics

There are disputes about the Bahá'í religion. However it's interesting that Bahá'í criticisms is a redirect to Bahá'í Faith, where no criticisms at all are mentioned... there is only a "See also: Bahá'í apologetics - for critical viewpoints."

Well, as the name suggests, Bahá'í apologetics neither mentions critical viewpoints, but their apologetics. Further, parts of Bahá'í divisions have been moved to the apologetics, this way restoring Bahá'í POV by selection and misinterpretation of sources.

This is a clear case of POV establishment. I'm not yet sufficiently experienced in the English Wikipedia to know how to deal with this situation best, so I ask for advice. --KnightMove 07:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

It is up to you to add critical aspects to the article Bahá'í Faith. Bahá'í criticisms was merged with the main article as you may see here. For further discussions please use the discussion pages. --Mipago 09:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

This is definitely not a topic for discussion pages only. I'm still waiting for some neutral advise. And there seems not to have been any agreement to redirect the criticism-page by removing all information in it. --KnightMove 15:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Many articles about religion on Wikipedia have heavy contributions from adherents to the particular religions, perhaps because often the adherents know more about their religions than anyone else (most people who reject a given religion will simply do their best to ignore it). However, allowing religious adherents to write about their own religions is an even more glaring conflict of interest than when an individual writes about himself or his own company, because it is at least faintly possible (although exceedingly difficult) for an individual to be objective about himself or his company, whereas every religion I know of rejects objectivity from the get-go, even occasionally going so far as to label objective examinations of its claims as blasphemy. Every religion I know of involves some or many claims about supernatural, metaphysical, or transcendental phenomena or events for which no conclusive evidence exists; many religions go even farther, making testable claims which do not stand up to straightforward testing (for example, consider claims about the efficacy of intercessory prayer: when controlling for placebo effects and so on, prayer is never found to alter the normal laws of probability, and this is easy to prove for oneself simply by praying for anything known to be objectively impossible at the moment, such as praying to any deity to instantly regrow an amputee's missing limb. Religions which have a tradition of claiming that prayer works continue to go right on claiming it despite all evidence to the contrary). For some odd reason, perhaps having to do with our tradition of religious tolerance, religions are generally exempted from the rigorous standards of honesty and factual integrity we apply when judging secular entities such as corporations and politicians. There seems to be an unstated gentlemen's agreement that even though we expect a corporation's products or a politician's policies to work the way their promoters claim they will work, somehow a religion is free to claim anything it wants about anything, and not only do we have to respect religious frauds, we grant them tax exempt status (which means all taxpayers are helping to subsidize religion). Even so, Wikipedia makes some attempt to bring objectivity to religious coverage; see: Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias in religion. --Teratornis 15:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Bahá'í criticisms was merged into and then redirect to Bahá'í Faith. A reason for this is that consensus at AfD 'Bahá'í criticisms' appeared to agree that Bahá'í criticisms fell into Wikipedia:Content forking. If you want to work in criticisms about a religion in the article about that religion, a good way to do this is review how criticisms is worked into articles about other religions or presented on Wikipedia about other religions (e.g., Roman Catholic Church, Anti-Catholicism). WikiProject Religion probably is the best place to help develop your proposed content. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 15:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

These infos help, thx. --KnightMove 13:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

making a page

can any one tell me how do i make a wikipedia page about some one

See Help:Starting a new page but check it meets WP:BIO and check its not violating the biogeaphies of living persons policy. The Sunshine Man 09:37, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

My birthday

Sometime last year, I signed up for the Happy Birthday message. I received one in 2006. However, yesterday (June 17) was my birthday, and alas, I received no message. What is the reason? Smartyshoe 11:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Esperanza has been dissolved. Happy Belated Birthday! Miranda 11:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Smartyshoe 11:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

But check out Wikipedia:Birthday Committee. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 15:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

your search engine is case-sensitive

How do i redirect people typing caluniversity or calu to California University of Technology —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neted (talk • contribs)

Answered on your talk page. Miranda 14:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Request to rename an account

(This request is basically full of personal information, so I've removed it altogether. It should be at WP:ACC, but I'll process it from here anyway.) --ais523 14:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio's

Is it a copyvio if someone copies almost verbatim large chunks of text from one or more articles without clear attribution (ie quotation marks) and leaves links to those articles as well? It sure seems like a copyvio to me, but I'm not sure of the exact status in such a case. Thanks, Gatoclass 14:15, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, if it is a copyvio, should I remove it right away, or put a template on it, or what? Gatoclass 14:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

If text is being copied from one Wikipedia article to another, it's not a copyvio just as long as the edit history is preserved somehow (a link in the edit history might be enough, but I'm not sure, copying the edit history page of the copied-from article to the talk page of the copied-to article definitely is); see Help:Reverting and Help talk:Reverting, for instance, for an example of how to avoid copyvio when text was copied from Meta (another Wikimedia wiki) to Wikipedia. If the text is a copyvio, remove it immediately or use {{db-copyvio}} if that would remove all content from the article and there isn't a 'clean' version in history to revert to. --ais523 14:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, well I guess the answer then is that it is in fact a copyvio, when it's copied from sources outside Wiki with no proper attribution - even if the links to the outside source are provided? Gatoclass 14:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

From an outside source, definitely; if the outside source isn't licenced under the GFDL (most aren't), it's a copyvio even if attribution is given. --ais523 14:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, in that case I'd better revert and leave a warning to the editor in question. I have noticed that he is changing a few words here and there in the text now to make it look more "original", but I really don't think the substitution of the odd word here and there is sufficient to prevent it being a copyvio. The editor in question needs to come up with his own construction, not just take someone else's text and then massage it a bit to make the copyvio less obvious. Gatoclass 15:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Where do I find a total list of warning boxes?

I know several "warning boxes" such as the {{inuse}} and {{underconstruction}} but where can I get all the other ones such as the "needs cleanup" or the "the contents of this article are disputed" etc etc?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Thekingbeav (talk • contribs) 

See Category:Wikipedia maintenance templates. PrimeHunter 14:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Template messages is the master index. --ais523 14:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

new article appearing in wikipedia.org

On Friday, June 15th, I created a page for the Transportation Library, Northwestern University. It now appears on the web, so that is ok; however, it does not appear in Wikipedia.org. In other words, when I search for the <Transportation Library, Northwestern University> in the Wikepedia search box, nothing appears.

This is my first attempt at putting an article up on Wikepdia. Did I do something wrong or fail to do something that would add this page to Wikepedia proper? Please let me know. Thanks! kaygeary 15:16, 18 June 2007 (UTC)Mary Geary

It's at Transportation Library, Northwestern University. When I searched for it by that name, it came up immediately. Maybe a simple typo? -FisherQueen (Talk) 15:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia's built-in search is notoriously brittle. You may have better results by searching Wikipedia with a search engine, for example here is a Google search on Wikipedia. Speaking of which, can someone explain to me why the search form in Wikipedia's default skin doesn't contain a third button to run a Google search on the search form contents? Given that Google search on Wikipedia is probably faster and more usable for the majority of Wikipedia's readers than Wikipedia's built-in search, not to mention that Google search does not load Wikipedia's servers, there would be obvious advantages to making Google search on Wikipedia more accessible to the millions of casual visitors who haven't yet found their way to the Help:Search topic and spent the time to study it. --Teratornis 15:29, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Probably concerns about advertising. --ais523 15:38, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I recall that the search results page sometimes contains links one can click to re-run the search with external search engines, for example I think I have seen this when Wikipedia's servers are too busy to run the search themselves. Perhaps the difficulty is one of emphasis: there isn't enough room in the left-side navigation bar to give equal emphasis to all the various search engines which can search on Wikipedia. However, I still think there should be a more direct way for casual users to learn about the search alternatives; many of them may need a long time before they would know to read the Help:Search topic. -Teratornis 15:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I suspect it might be a case of a link to Google being fine on a search results page where it's relevant, but not on every page of the encyclopedia. I agree that Help:Search should be more prominent. --ais523 15:48, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I've wondered briefly about the possibility of creating something like a skin aimed at new users. It might, for example, contain mouseover popup annotations to explain all features of the Wikipedia interface, along with appropriate warnings for new users who attempt to create new articles before having edited much or read much into the help. (What are the odds that a brand-new user who has barely read any manuals can create a new article that sticks? There are so many "wrong" ways to write articles here.) For someone familiar with Wikipedia's features, that sort of interface would be too busy, so the advanced user could select an advanced skin (such as the current default skin, which appears to be optimized for people who know what they are doing already). Wikipedia has 49,128,620 accounts, plus perhaps even more unregistered users, and I suspect a large majority of them barely know what's going on here yet. It would be interesting to see a list of Wikipedia features, policies, guidelines, etc., along with the percentage of users who currently understand each one. --Teratornis 20:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Creating a Company Page

Jmbrown1322 15:16, 18 June 2007 (UTC)Why doesn't the site allow me to post company info when there are plenty of companies with info pages on the site? How would I go about doing this?Jmbrown1322 15:16, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I see someone has already answered the question on your talk page, but for the answer, read WP:ORG, which explains which companies are notable by the Wikipedia definition, and WP:COI, which explains why we discourage people from creating articles about companies they are closely associated with. -FisherQueen (Talk) 15:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Golspie

In the paragraph on Golspie (set out below) it refers to Caithness and Sutherland Enterprise planning to construct a mosque. This is utterly untrue and has now led to press interest. Pleae remove it immediately.

The Church of Scotland and the Free Church have well-established congregations, while those of the Roman Catholic and Anglican Church faith worship in nearby Brora. Caithness and Sutherland enterprise are currently planning the construction of a small Mosque on the outskirts of the village in the spacious land near the industrial area.

That edit was added January 24, 2007 and :WHOIS says the IP address of that user is registered to Highland Council Education Department, Scotland. The post probably was by a student. I could not find any reliable sources mentioning the proposed construction. I revised the Golspie post with referenced material. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

First time contributor - how to form a proper citation

Hello,

I just posted my first contribution, an entry for "John Wingate Thornton". The page comes up and states that there is no source or citation for this page, but I have added a citation. I have read the posted FAQ material on this subject and have examined other pages for examples, but I don't see what I am doing wrong. How can I make the 'This article does not cite any references or sources.' designation go away?

Thank you,

Jayras 15:40, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I think the unreferenced tag was added one minute after you created the page by someone who really should have given you more time. I removed the tag. You did add a reference after he posted the unreferenced tag. You might see CITE for more information. Of course you may reach me at my page for help anytime. Keep up the good work! JodyB _talk 15:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

The placement of the unreferenced tag did not seem to follow the patrol new pages from the bottom of the first page of the log at new page partol. The tag poster probably was thinking of Wikipedia is not a directory of genealogical entries. I think the John Wingate Thornton article could use a Genealogical entry clean-up tag, but I could not find one at Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup. Any suggestions? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:30, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

You could probably just add the cleanup tag. There could be some notability issues here too, however, I wish we would give folks more than 60 seconds before tagging the article. JodyB _talk 18:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Real name as username

I think I would like to use my real name for authoring and editing articles. Is there any significant downside to that that I should be aware of and how do I change my user ID other than delete my account and make a new one? Tony —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonyodysseus (talk • contribs)

There's a summary of points at WP:U#Choosing_a_username, but in brief it's just that your identity is an open secret online. Username changes are handled at Wikipedia:Changing username. Follow the instructions carefully.--Chaser - T 16:36, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, given the low number of edits so far, it would probably be better just to create a new account. You can always note your previous name on your userpage.--Chaser - T 16:37, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't understand why page was deleted.

Hello, I made an account on here like 3 weeks ago so I could help contribute. I knowticed there was an article on a rapper I liked, I also knowticed that his first album did not have a page on this site. There was already a link to his first album, just no article for it. So I took the track-listing from his own web-site, checked my copy of his CD, and checked Amazons listing. Then I post it up saying "this cd was released on ______ and was Necros first LP" and then the track-listing. I come back the following day and it has been deleted because "it doesn't assert signifance". An artists first full-length CD is released and thats not important, what kind of upside down logic is that. So I re-post it thinking it was just some sensitive mod who didn't appreciate the colorful language in the song titles. So now what excuse do I get, oh that it is a "nonsense" page. The Page in question is "I Need Drugs" a hip-hop record from Necro. I'll I was trying to do was help out people looking up information but instead I get shit-canned. I'll still use Wiki on a daily basis but screw trying to post anything on here. ~~ I really don't get it, what's the point of allowing people to edit or create any page you want when I get stuff deleted that isn't violating anything. I didn't put up copyrighted material or gave my opinion. All I did was post a release date and track-listing for an album and it gets deleted, what the fuckity fuck is that seriously. ~~ Thanks, oh wait, no thanks douche. sorry for trying to help-out. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adambomb419 (talk • contribs)

Hi Adambomb419. This link lists why the article was deleted. I Need Drugs should be created from Wikipedia reliable sources such as from newspaper articles and books containing information about the album. You might be able to get some hip hop article development assistance from Wikipedia:WikiProject hip hop. You also might want to see Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted?. Your mistake on Wikipedia was to assume you understand how the site works and what it is for. I don't know how your previous experience has been with unfamiliar things, but in my experience, whenever I try something different than anything I have tried before, there are usually some surprises, not all of them pleasant. Wikipedia is probably very different than anything you have experienced before, because it is very different than almost anything which ever existed before; it certainly has been different for me. I think everybody who edits here has had at least some of their work deleted. Wikipedia itself is somewhat to blame for having nothing in its design to make sure people have some minimal understanding of the site before they begin editing. It looks so simple to click and start typing away. But Wikipedia's policies are not simple, and certainly not intuitive for many people. If you are willing to spend many hours reading the manuals and learning how Wikipedia works, you may eventually come to enjoy editing here. But you might prefer to edit on another wiki which has less strict requirements for its articles. For example, see the music category on WikiIndex. --Teratornis 20:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Formating in Wikipedia

Hi,

How do you create a format for a Wikipedia page? Specifically, how do you create a table of contents that links to specific parts of an article?

12.47.208.34 17:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the Table of Contents is generated automatically for pages with more than three headings (sections, sub-sections, etc.). You can find more info about the TOC (including different options for moving it/removing it) at WP:TOC. tiZom_(2¢) 17:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Need to change article title

I uploaded my article as an image. The title of the article is the title of the image, thought he image is Text with a picture. How I change the title of the page so that it does not end in .jpg? The page is now called reldra.jpg -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reldra (talk • contribs)

I don't think you can do what you're trying to do. Images are treated a bit differently. You must establish the article and then add text to it. It's really pretty simple. That way, others can easily edit your article. Actual images are uploaded either here or at Commons and then linked into the article.

In the search box on the left of this page, type the desired article name and click on "Go." If there is no article by that name the resulting page will give you the option to create the page. If I can help more, please let me know by coming to my discussion page. JodyB _talk 18:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Reldra. I think you mean that you want to add that information to your user page rather than crate a Wikipedia article from the information. Instead of adding the information as a .PDF page, just post the actual text on Reldra's user page and save. Also, you might want to review Wikipedia is not a blog, webspace provider, or social networking site and Wikipedia:User page. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 21:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Font Displayed

The font displayed on my Wikipedia screens here at work is very hard to read. It is similar to Microsft's Impact font. At home I get an easy to read font (like Times New Roman). How can I change the font? == Headline text ==72.75.200.236 18:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that may be down to your browser. Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 19:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I had some typos there, I couldn't even understand myself, lol. However, I know this is not a social networking page. In that case should I have one of my assistant's make my Wikipedia page? I was trying to take a task for myself.

Trustable?

Is Wikipedia reliable for its information?

At the bottom of every page here is a link: Disclaimers. Click it and read. --Teratornis 19:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia article information should come from Wikipedia reliable sources. Reliable sources are credible published materials with a reliable publication process; their authors are generally regarded as trustworthy, or are authoritative in relation to the subject at hand. The reliability of a source depends on context; what is reliable in one topic may not be in another. However, the way the question is phrased is like asking whether people from Denver are more reliable than people from Washington, D.C. The information within each Wikipedia article should be reviewed and considered based on the Wikipedia reliable sources from which it is drawn. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 21:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

See also Reliability of Wikipedia. PrimeHunter 23:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

And check out How can I trust that the information in Wikipedia is correct? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 23:36, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Web search not working

Fmorris 20:11, 18 June 2007 (UTC)How come my created page is not available when I'm on the web and search "wikipedia Cortiva Institute" like it is when I search "wikipedia Nike" or something along those lines.Fmorris 20:11, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

That takes some time. It will probably be in google within a few weeks. ssepp^(talk) 21:39, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Search engines don't just "know" that a page exists, they have to specifically find it first. Don't worry: it will indeed probably be available soon. Charlie-talk to me-what I've done 21:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

It's actually already in Google [19] and their current version was cached June 15, the day after creation. Maybe you use another search engine which has not found the page yet. You probably know this but the quotation marks should not be entered in the search box. "wikipedia Nike" with quotation marks happens to work in Google but "wikipedia Cortiva Institute" does not. PrimeHunter 23:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

References to Articles

I was adding a paragraph to the industrial distillation section. I added references and all seemed to be ok but when I checked the page all of the references were gone. Not just mine but all of them. What did I do wrong and how do we get them back. The reference numbers still show up in the text but the reference section is gone. I did no work in the reference section I assumed that as they were added to the text that they would appear on the reference list.--Fri117336 20:29, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

You used <ref/> instead of </ref> in the Packed Tower Distributors footnote in the Distillation. I fixed it. Also, please note that footnotes usually are located after a punctuation mark (such as a period or comma). See Wikipedia:Footnotes. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 21:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

How Can I find my Wikipedia User Name???

I set up an account. I'm sure I'm know the password. And most likely the e-mail address that I used. But how can I find out the user name that I chose? 75.60.195.86 20:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if that is possible. But if you can not remember the name, it sounds like the account was not very important? You can just create a new one. ssepp^(talk) 21:37, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

What about checkuser? Would that process be able to answer this question? Sancho 21:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. According to Help:CheckUser it could. But since it would involve the privacy issue of giving the information of which user account used a certain IP address, to an unidentified user, for no critical reason, it's probably out of the question. Using the same IP address is no proof of being the same person. ssepp^(talk) 22:11, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Ah, certainly. Yeah, that wouldn't be a good idea then. Sancho 23:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Have you, at some point, logged in to that account and edited a page? If so, you can look through the page's history and try to find the username there. Confusing Manifestation 22:43, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Uploading images

Although I have experience locating information online, for the life of me, I cannot find out how to upload images onto Wikipedia. Note that I have a Photobucket account and the links are available to me; so, if they are needed, I don't need an explanation on how to get them. So, I ask now, how do you upload images onto Wikipedia? Come to the dark side... We have cookies. 21:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Short answer: click on 'upload file' in the toolbox, on the left sidebar, under the search box. Other info: Special:Upload is a direct link. Note that images either need to have some free license, or it needs to qualify as 'fair use', and have a fair use rationale. I'm not sure with what you mean with an explanation on how to get them, but if you mean the html to show an image that I think photobucket gives you, you'll find it won't work in wikipedia. See WP:Image for wiki markup on showing images. ssepp^(talk) 21:28, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Locked and missing Pages preventing editing

I was horrified to find that an article has been protected by another user. Many of us have attempted to edit the article because certain important information has been erased or omitted by this user but have been unable to do so due to this lock. I need to understand why this person was allowed sole access to this article. I need to know why we must submit changes to this individual when they consistently omit true information we are attempting to add to the piece. Furthermore, another related page which was started by a friend has been deleted and redirected to this locked page. I need to know why this has happened. The dictator that holds the key to the original page did not start the second related page. This is a major deal to those of us who simply wish for an ACCURATE REPRESENTATION AND ACCOUNT of what has transpired on this topic. So if someone can please clue me in on how an article can be hijacked, deleted and valuable information erased and what can be done to undue this error, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorceress06 (talk • contribs)

The article is only semi-protected, any account that is over 4 days old can edit it. Only administrators can protect pages, Evangeline Williamson was protected a month ago by Cbrown1023. Since it has been a month it is likely to be ok to unprotect the article, which I have done. Your friend's page was probably deleted as a duplicate, you will need to give us the exact title if you want more info. Prodego ^talk 21:30, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know why you edited your own post to remove the article names but I found them in the page history. The article once at Tangeline was deleted [20] after the debate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tangeline. Then the title was redirected to One Life to Live and shortly after to Evangeline Williamson [21]. PrimeHunter 23:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now editing access

I was asked to update ACORN's Wikipedia Web page. When I tried to do so, the edits wouldn't save.

There seems to have been a lot of disagreement between the original author in 2004 and the then-editors. So I wonder if I don't have the ability to edit?

I agree the content needs to be more objective. I could try to tone it down and update. Please let me know.

Mary —Preceding unsigned comment added by Webcampaign (talk • contribs)

It looks like what happened was that you got "edit conflicted". When you're editing a page, and someone else edits it too, you can't save your version. It's a real pain, but it doesn't happen that often. In order to lessen the chances, if you're doing a major re-write, put {{inuse}} at the top of the article -- just remember to remove it when you're done. --Haemo 22:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Another way to reduce the risk of edit conflict (see Help:Edit conflict) is to edit the article one section at a time - click the little [edit] button after a section title to edit just that section, and if someone else is working on another section you won't get edit conflicted. Confusing Manifestation 22:37, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Merge & Rename

I have looked around plenty and read quite a bit about this issue, or rather these issues, but I think it'll just be easier to have someone else do it. The 2 pages entitled Bhardwajs and Bhardwaj should be MERGED and placed into a new article entitled Bharadwaj. The latter is the more proper spelling and also having 2 pages is redundant. I know there is a separate page specifically for merge suggestions, and I have placed this suggestion there but nothing has been done. I have been editing for years now but I don't have an account. It's just a personal thing - I don't want one. If someone could either do the above or tell me how to do it without creating an account that would be great.

I sort of split the difference, actually - your point is a good one, but the existing Bhardwaj is a disambiguation page that seems to make sense to have, as there are four possible articles that might be sought by searchers. So, I took the specific information out of that article, and added a link to Bhardwajs, where there's more information on the family. Now, since I'm actually reading your request properly, I'm going to move Bhardwajs to Bharadwaj, as you request, and fix the dab page again. Note to self: read things twice before editing. =P Tony Fox (arf!) review? 22:45, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Oooookay, so I'm not going to move it, since Bharadwaj is a redirect to Bharadwaja. Might take a bit more time to figure this one out... Tony Fox (arf!) review? 22:48, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

It looks like this might be more of an issue of which descents of Bharadwaja spell their last name correctly. I posted a help request here. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 22:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Good call. I'll leave it to the experts, then. Tony Fox (arf!) review? 15:43, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, it looks good now. The titles and the re-directions are right. Thanks guys. :)

Captioning image in {{Infobox MLB player}}

How can I caption an image in {{Infobox MLB player}}. At Chris Young (baseball pitcher), I was able add an image from a lucky shot I took of a four seam fastball at 7 megapixels. I want to be able to send the reader to the fastball page to appreciate the picture. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 22:54, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think the template supports that, at present. You could write a new template, or try using the image in a different way. Wonderful picture, though. --Haemo 22:59, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I answered my own question. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 23:36, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Tony, I enclosed the caption in <small> tags to differentiate it from the other infobox text. Let me know what you think. Cheers, Caknuck 00:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I need permission for using references in my book

I wondered how I can get "the ok" for my book I am writing. I used some references for my book from Wikipedia. Do I need to submit my book to someone or the parts I am using as references from WIkipedia? ellyhancsak

Information on the license agreement on the contents of Wikipedia is here. How to cite Wikipedia in your book is contained at Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. If you look on the left of your screen under toolbox when viewing an article, there should be a Cite this article link that gives examples of how to cite the article you presently are viewing. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 23:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

June 19

Question : Wikipedia May28th page appears on June19th ??

Wikipedia Managers, Today (Tuesday 19th June 2007) the main page shows data that was last posted on May 28th 2007. Also the number of files on Home Page is different from the next page. We look forward to corrections as necessary. Regards, N G Singh, FPSA Nadi. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.7.17.52 (talk • contribs)

To better answer your question, would you please identify the particular data that was last posted on May 28th 2007 and is posted today (Tuesday 19th June 2007)). Also, would you please provide more information regarding your statement "the number of files on Home Page is different from the next page", particularly to what Home Page and what 'next page' you are referrring. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I can't find where you're seeing that the page hasn't been updated by May 28. However, I suppose I still might be able to answer your question.

Pages like the Main page, certain Portals, and even some User pages use templates to hold the information. The Main page is actually set up to update daily. It just includes content from other pages.

For example, the main page has a template called {{In the news}}. Users are able to update the template on a different page (Template:In the news), and it gets transcluded onto the Main page. Therefore, there's little maintenance to be done with the Main page itself, but rather most is done on the template pages.

As for the second question, I'm not sure what you mean by the "number of files" on the Home page. Could you clarify a bit? Thanks! tiZom_(2¢) 00:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps the questioner garbled "number of articles" into "number of files" in the question. The Main Page uses this code:

<!----------"Welcome to Wikipedia" and article count---------->
{| style="width:280px; border:solid 0px; background:none;"
|style="width:280px; text-align:center; white-space:nowrap; color:#000;"|
<div style="font-size:162%; border:none; margin:0; padding:.1em; color:#000;">Welcome to [[Wikipedia]],</div>
<div style="top:+0.2em; font-size:95%;">the free encyclopedia that [[Wikipedia:Introduction|anyone can edit]].</div>
<div id="articlecount" style="width:100%; text-align:center; font-size:85%;">[[Special:Statistics|{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}]] articles in English</div>
|}

to display: "6,992,876 articles in English" which of course will change frequently on refreshing the page, as people create thousands of new articles per day here. However, I can't make sense of the question either. Maybe someday the Help desk won't rely exclusively on questioners already knowing enough about Wikipedia to be able to use proper (recognizable) names for everything they want to know more about. Maybe someday new users will be able to point with their fingers at the screen and grunt a sequence of simple words such as "Huh?" and we will be able to see what they are pointing at, as if we were standing behind them and peering over their shoulder at the same screen. Seriously, this is what it takes to provide remote support to people who don't know enough to write a coherent question. It's too bad that Cisco TelePresence 3000 costs US$299,000; we need a few more iterations of Moore's Law to knock that down to something reasonable. --Teratornis 17:23, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Name Font?

Sorry in advance if this is a FAQ, but how do you get your username a different colour and font?

Thanx.

SpeakoutLOUD 23:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

By changing your sig box and adding html tage like <font color="Blue">Hello</font> and <font face="Perpetua">SpeakoutLOUD</font>. Don't forget to select raw signature when doing that. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 00:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

In fact here is one I made for you Kevinwong913 ^{Speak out loud!}. To use this sig post the following in your sig box, <font face="Times New Roman">[[User:Kevinwong913|<font color="Green">Kevinwong913</font>]] ^{[[User talk:Kevinwong913|<font color="Red">Speak out loud!</font>]]}</font>. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 00:08, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I was goint to post "Either review WP:SIGNATURE#Customizing_your_signature or have Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) do it for you," but The Random Editor was faster on the draw. : ) -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanx!

SpeakoutLOUD 20:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

interwiki image links

is it possible to link to and display images from another wiki language site? i've been trying to use this image "de:bild:Josef Hellmesberger senior.jpg" in an article without success. --emerson7 | Talk 01:29, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

No, only local images or those on the Wikimedia Commons can be used. Depending on the licence of the original, you may be able to move the image you want to the commons.-gadfium 01:50, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

danke --emerson7 | Talk 13:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Biograpy/Misinformation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessa_Horst

I was doing research on reality television and came acroos this page. Just thought you should know that this is false and should probably be deleted.

It was vandalized. I fixed it now. --Haemo 02:41, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Need my password!

I lost my password.....my id is "ritwingr" I can't remember my password though.

Help!

Ed

• You can request a temporary password to be sent to your e-mail if you filed it during account creation. If you didn't file your e-mail information or cannot access the e-mail account, then you will have to re-create an account. - Penwhale | ^{Blast him / Follow his steps} 03:23, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Constantly Vandalized Article

Can someone please protect Cyclops? One IP is consistently vandalizing it. Thanks and have a good day! --JDitto 03:43, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

• You can request that over at requests for page protection. - Penwhale | ^{Blast him / Follow his steps} 04:01, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

• When there's only one vandal, the general procedure isn't to request protection but to leave the appropriate warnings on their talk page, then once they hit a 3rd or 4th level warning and keep vandalising, report them on WP:AIV. Looking at the talk page, I'd personally say they've received the equivalent of a 3rd level warning, but if they vandalise again and you want to give them one more chance (in some form of WP:AGF, perhaps), leave {{subst:uw-v4|Cyclops|subst=subst:}} ~~~~ and just keep an eye on their contributions for the next hour or so. Confusing Manifestation 04:08, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Resolved

The offender has been reported at WP:AIV (not by me). YechielMan 04:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Help to get "Christian Bartolf" article restored

What to do against speedy deletion of "Christian Bartolf" article? Chrbartolf 19 June 2007

Deletion review is handled at WP:DRV. The article was deleted because it contained no assertion of notability. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 04:58, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

UPDATE - Freakofnurture restored Christian Bartolf since it wasn't a speedy delete candidate (Bartolf founded the Gandhi Information Center). -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 15:28, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Page created a week ago not showing up in search

On June 10 I created the page "COPSS Presidents' Award" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COPSS_Presidents%27_Award).

The page is still not showing up if I search Wikipedia for the exact title of the page (nor if I search for part of the title such as "COPSS"). If I understand correctly from the FAQ (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~tangotango/nubio/view.php?id=1), normally pages show up when searched within 30 hours of being created.

Is there something I should be doing differently?

Thank you.

Prix 04:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC) Prix

Wikipedia's search index is updated much slower than that unfortunately, it usually takes weeks for Wikipedia's search index to be rebuilt. akuyume^T_C 05:05, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

COPSS Presidents' Award shows up in Google search. --Teratornis 14:28, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

How to move & align an image/info box...

Hello! I'm very new to all this HTML code stuff, but I'm learning! Can you look at this artist's song page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torn_Between_Two_Lovers 

and please tell me how to align the image/info boxes from left to right instead of from top to bottom. What codes to I type in and where?

many thanks! PEPE

As for the images, they are part of the same Infobox ({{Infobox Single}}) used three times on the same page. It is designed to align to the right side of the page, thus the vertical arrangement. If you're interested in rearranging the images and information on the page, you could consider forgoing the Infoboxes and use something else (such as tables) instead. Or just dump the Infoboxes and fancy formatting altogether and incorporate each infobox's contents into paragraph-style text. Before doing so, however, you may want to discuss the format change with other editors first on the article's Talk page first. Jim Dunning | talk 05:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Machine Tool

what is the difference between machine and machine tool?

Perhaps you could take a look at Machine and Machine tool, or you might get better answers at the Reference Desk. Peacent 07:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

triple poiint

why does all phases of water coexist at triple point? give the scientific reason behind it124.125.89.153 05:42, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Don't hesitate to check with the Reference Desk for these types of questions (this page is for getting help on using Wikipedia itself), but check out Triple point. Jim Dunning | talk 06:05, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

uploadind data

how to upload data such as vedios ,images on our personal website, 124.125.89.153 05:45, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm assuming you mean your WP userpage when you say "personal website", and not some other website, like Facebook or mySpace. If so, —

Short answer: click on 'upload file' in the toolbox, on the left sidebar, under the search box. Other info: Special:Upload is a direct link. Note that images either need to have some free license, or it needs to qualify as 'fair use', and have a fair use rationale. See WP:Image for wiki markup on showing images. (Thanks to Sepp above) Jim Dunning | talk 06:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Image link to another language section of wikipedia?

How do I use an image available in another wikipedia language in the english wikipedia..? Downloading & uploading the same picture at wikipedia.org seems so uneccessary. Electron9 07:42, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

If it's a commons image, you can use it anywhere just by using the normal [[Image:whateveryourimageiscalled.jpg]] format. If it's not a commons image, then you will in fact have to reupload it. This is irritating I agree, but necessary due to the differing image use policies on different wikis. --tjstrf talk 07:49, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Editor review tag?

Isn't there a tag that can be placed on an article so that experienced editors can drop by with some advice on how it can be improved? I'm taking about Prince George, British Columbia, which seems to be getting lots of helpful edits lately, but also some confusing and unsourced ones. I haven't contributed much to the article myself (although I do plan some associated history articles for it). Anyway, the article has been getting a little unorganized. See my comment on its talk page [22] and the recent history.[23]CindyBo 08:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

You could try Wikipedia:Peer_review. This is more for articles that are getting close to completion and need some fine tuning to make them perfect. Hope this helps! - Andrew4010 12:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

The template I believe you want it {{peerreview}}. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 13:41, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I used just that, it should be a big help.CindyBo 23:24, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Inputbox lay-out

Is it possible to change the padding between button and inputfield of an inputbox or get the button next to the inputfield instead of below?

Freestyle 08:29, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Trying using the parameter "break=no" underneath "width=30". This will place it next to it, as shown below.

Hope this helps! -Andrew4010 12:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Great! Thanks very much! Freestyle 13:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Template question

I was looking over a user category that was listed on UCfD a few times in the past, the last time quite recently, and I was wondering if there's a template for user categories that one would be able to use, similar to Template:Cfd result? Thankyou!—arf! 08:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

There may not be a need for such a template. However, I created a discussion thread for you here at the UCfD talk page to get a more definitive answer. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 15:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Error in the colored world map of parliaments classification.

greetings, I am Mohammed Al Saeed , an adviser at the Shura Council(Parliament) of Saudi Arabia. My comment is the following: The colored world map of parliaments classification either unicaneral or bicameral shows Saudi Arabia as a country with no parliament which is wrong.In Saudi Arabia there is a unicameral Parliament and it is a member of The IPU (Inter-Parliamentary Union)since April 2003. For verification please visit: www.ipu.org and www.shura.gov.sa

Best Regards, Mohammed Al Saeed Shra Council of Saudi Arabia <Contacts removed. mattbr 14:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)>

I believe the image to which you are referring is Image:Unibicameral_Map.png. The user who uploaded that image last participate in Wikipedia on 2 November 2006. However, Gadren appears to have edited the image on May 5, 2007 and I have posted a request for Gadren to address your concerns. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 16:05, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know anything about this subject, but I have edited the image in accordance with this new information.

William J. Conlin (a.k.a. William J. Florence)

Did William J. Florence ever visit South Africa? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.234.240.25 (talk • contribs)

This help desk is specifically for questions about using Wikipedia. You probably want to bring this up at the reference desk, which can be found here. Charlie-talk to me-what I've done 10:13, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

i did a page

and it was deleted: law firm of the year with suitable sources. can this be put back on, it took me ages.

The best thing to do would be to go here, and contact the admin who deleted your article. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 13:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

See WP:WWMPD. --Teratornis 14:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, see Notability is not temporary - Wikinews, not Wikipedia, is better suited to present topics receiving a short burst of present news coverage. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 16:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Is there a place to ask how to interpret English sentences?

Is there a place in English Wikipedia where to ask for interpretations of specific English sentences? Wikipedia:Translations does not make the grade, as it seems. --KnightMove 13:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

You could try Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language, or contact a user in one of the subcategories of Category:Wikipedians by language. Google language tools may also be able to provide a translation. Hope that helps, mattbr 14:01, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

The first link seems to do good, thx. --KnightMove 14:13, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Not cited box?

I have cited my work and whoever put the not cited tag at the beginning has yet to remove it. How do I get rid of this.

"Page: Cortiva Institute" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.88.36.66 (talk • contribs)

Anyone can remove it. Just edit the article and remove the tag at the top. --Kainaw ^(talk) 14:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid Kainaw is wrong above, I suggest not removing the tag, the article only has one reference which has no URL/domain to link it to and to make it a reliable source so unfortunately it is still uncited, if the information in the article is from the official website then you could cite it, see how to cite sources, Cheers --The Sunshine Man 14:52, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

So, you are saying that "Not Cited" tags cannot be removed? Then, how do they get removed? Is there some special code so that only administrators can remove them? Or, was Kainaw correct in stating that anyone can remove them? I'm confused now. Youth in Asia 15:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

They can be removed, but the article does need to be cited properly or someone else will just put it back. Remember, they're there to call other interested editors in to help out with clearing up those issues. In this case, though, the article definitely needs more - right now, I'm not sure it meets notability guidelines. Tony Fox (arf!) review? 15:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

If you remove the Not Cited tag without adding any references, it is likely that someone will list the article for deletion. The article now has no independent references since the listed link is not independent of the topic of the article. It is best to add Wikipedia reliable sources to the article in response to the Not Cited tag. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 16:24, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Mention in footnotes

I recently reviewed the article on Temperomandibular Joint Disease and although I had written the original article using my old user name I no longer see any reference in the edits. Please advise Elsmere808 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elsmere808 (talk • contribs)

I don't see any article on Temperomandibular Joint Disease. Youth in Asia 15:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I think he means Temporomandibular joint disorder, commonly called TMJ. --Kainaw ^(talk) 15:26, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Temporomandibular joint disorder is from 2001 where some article versions were not kept (see Wikipedia:Usemod article histories). The oldest recorded version from 23 September 2001 has edit summary "minor copy-editing". And something weird happens if you click "older edit" at [24]. PrimeHunter 22:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Back in the olden days, when Wikipedia was carved on rocks, the database was in a different format. There was a mass conversion at some point, and the conversion was noted as the oldest edit in the histories of the articles which existed at the time. It's possible that that notation no longer exists, I'm not sure, but it's impossible to see the edits which existed prior to that database conversion. Corvus cornix 18:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Selective eating disorder

I have recently added an entry on Selective Eating Disorder or SED, a newly acknowledged eating disorder. How do I ensure that those searching for "SED" can find it without typing in the full name of the disorder? Thank you very much for your assistance. kenknight10

I added Selective eating disorder to the Sed (disambiguation) page. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 16:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Links to other language Wiki articles that are FA

I have a question regarding links to other language Wiki articles that are Featured Article status. At Jude Law, one user in particular keeps removing the {{Link FA|ru}} link, which lists the Russian wikipedia article with a star next to it, because it's FA status. I have replaced the link several times, with the belief that is the way one links to other FA articles in different languages. I noticed, however, that at Jane Austen, both {{Link FA|es}} and [[es:Jane Austen]] are present. Is this proper, or did someone merely forget to remove the second link? Am I correct in adding the FA Russian link? Why are others removing it, if I am correct? Guidance would be most appreciated. María (críticame) 15:52, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

• I checked the source code for Julius Caesar, which is featured in a half dozen languages of Wikipedia. The {{link FA|language}} template does need to be added, and if people keep removing it for some reason, tell them to please stop. The link FA template is not redundant with the standard interwiki link - you need to have both. YechielMan 16:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Getting a sidebar of "In other languages"

I recently made a Welsh version of the Mount&Blade page. I would like to know how to get "Cymraeg" to show up in the "in other languages" box. Thanks in advance.

To create a link with a Wikipedia article in another language, you add that language's two or three-letter code, followed by a colon and the article's name in that other language. Thus,

[[cy:Mount&Blade]]

I'll take care of this for you. YechielMan 15:58, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :)

Block Help

When I was a new user, I went onto Wikipedia at school. The IP there was blocked, so I logged in. I think this resulted in a block of my account, which was lifted quickly. I would like to partcipate in the Adopt-A-User program someday, so will this hold me back? P.S. can I remove the unblocked notice from my talkpage? ~Crowstar~ 17:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

'Autoblock lifted or expired' means that you were editing from an IP previously used by a vandal (given that you were at school, this isn't particularly surprising; however, this isn't what happened here). Yes, you can remove the message, as it's information and not a warning. (If a user gets autoblocked a lot, it can be worth looking into sometimes). There is something quite confusing going on here, though; 66.230.200.146 is registered to the Wikimedia Foundation. The date of the autoblock request is the giveaway; on 17 May 2007, one of the Wikimedia 'squids' was installed incorrectly and its IP started showing up for lots of edits (Wikipedia was detecting its own IP, not that of the editor). The bug was quickly fixed, but it lead to some problems, like the one you've seen here. So especially in this case, feel free to remove this message, or even to copy my answer here as an explanation of what happened. See also User talk:66.230.200.146. --ais523 17:16, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Notability of bootleg albums?

Does anyone know if articles about bootleg albums are notable enough for inclusion in WP? I've just discovered a article on Sk8er Girl, an Avril Lavigne boot, which occasionally pops up on eBay and the like. I can't find any mention of bootlegs/'unofficial albums' at WP:MUSIC. Does the general criteria for albums also apply in this case? --Kurt Shaped Box 18:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

This search shows some bootleg AfD debates where almost everybody say delete, but I haven't compared notability. PrimeHunter 18:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd say subject bootlegs to the same notability criteria as normal albums. That means that things like the Beatles bootlegs (which have been discussed several times in literature) are likely to pass, and random bootlegs with no references fail. Confusing Manifestation 23:19, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Signatures

I know how to edit my signature, but how do I add in a link to my talk page? All my efforts in very, very bad HTML have failed. Any help appreciated.--NeoNerd 20:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Just change User:NeoNerd to User_talk:NeoNerd--VectorPotential^Talk 20:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, that should have been obvious :). --NeoNerd 20:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Where is the deletion discussion for this?

Template:User against censorship has been deleted/censored!, however i cant find, or there doesnt seem to be any discussion about/reasoning for it being deleted. If there was a discussion, where is it? Willy turner 20:55, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

The template was deleted by User:Clyde as per the speedy deletion policy section T1 (see under templates). Bjelleklang - talk Bug Me 21:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

The deletion has been challanged, and is now being discused at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 June 19. DES ^(talk) 00:04, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Specifying dimensions in region-aware form

I think I remember that there is a way to specify dimensions so that they are rendered according to a user's locale. Let's say I want to specify that something is 228mm x 281mm. What's the right way to code this? Joshua McGee (talk) 20:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how, but my sincere advice is - don't worry about it. If it's really important, you can find the alternate units by using a calculator and putting them in parentheses. The Google search engine has a calculator, so if you type "50 degrees Fahrenheit in Celsius" it will show "10 degrees Celsius" at the top of the results page. Other than that, Wikipedia generally doesn't have a convention for standardizing units outside a strictly scientific context. YechielMan 23:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

How do I stop persistent vandalism from one particular IP address

Hello. Any entry I created about a local band Voom is being persistently hacked from one particular IP address. The attacked are coming from an ex band member. I have rolled back the entries a couple of times now. All the malicious edits are coming from one IP address, but the sure doesn't have an account/talk page, so I'm not sure how I go about warning them. I've searched the knowledge base but couldn't find much information about anonymous vandalism. Any advice appreciated.

Let an admin know, and he/she'll take care of it :) I gave the user a final warning, but let me know if it happens again so I can put a temporary block on the IP. Bjelleklang - talk Bug Me 21:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi - sorry - I'm still really not sure how I go about reporting this. Am I supposed to put WP:AIAV on the page? Or something else?

Click on WP:AIV, click "edit", then follow the directions there to report a user. --Haemo 22:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. You should usually only go to WP:AIV if a vandal is still active after receiving a last warning. As said above, Bjelleklang gave a last warning [25] and there are no edits since, so you should not do anything now. Bjelleklang is an administrator (with power to block editors and IP's) and offered to help if it happens again, so you can also report it at User talk:Bjelleklang. PrimeHunter 23:10, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Bear in mind that making a request to a specific user tends to be slower than making a request to a page like WP:AIV if that user isn't online at the time, though. --ais523 13:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

YouTube links

What is Wikipedia's policy or guideline regarding YouTube links? Can they be added as long as they don't violate copyright? MrBlondNYC 21:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:External links#Linking to YouTube, Google Video, and similar sites. PrimeHunter 22:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Botched talk page archive move

Somehow I turned the main talk page for Bible into Archive 2 in an attempt to move a prior archive attempt that was archived as Talk:Bible into a Talk:Bible/Archive 2. So basically the main talk page now redirects to here and doesn't link back to the main article. The archive I was trying to move over onto the Archive 2 space is here. I suspect that this was caused by how that page was previously archived. How can this be fixed? Thanks. --BrokenSphere 21:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Issue has been resolved by Wimt. --BrokenSphere 22:01, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

question....

i dont know if im spelling this right, but i really need to know what and isottonic is so please help me!

See isotonic. PrimeHunter 22:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

UK census information

Hi, I was wondering how I can get historical population statistics from the UK census? The census has been running since 1801, and I'd have though it would be easy to get info, but it's proving a bit tricky. Any help offered would be very helpful. — Jack · talk · 22:08, Tuesday, 19 June 2007

Try looking here. In the future, please send questions like this to the reference desk. YechielMan 23:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Silly Question

HI there. I have a silly question. I'm trying to get my son a free ticket on a train (he's a fanatic) and i need to answer a piece of trivia first. Anyone know how many times Perry Mason asked Della Street to marry him in the Perry Mason books?

Thanks, Dani Ham

<email address redacted>

Yeah, that is a silly question. You'll have to figure it out on your own. YechielMan 23:12, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

To put it a little clearer (and perhaps a smigeon politer), this is the Help Desk for Wikipedia, ie. the place to ask about how Wikipedia works. We do have a reference desk for general knowledge-based questions, and someone on the Entertainment desk may be able to help you there. Confusing Manifestation 23:16, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

100% factual but displeasing additions to articles, is it permitted?

I am just seeking further clarification regarding a controversial topic.

I would like to add material to an existing article, or create a new article. The content is widely known to be factual, and externally verifiable. Would it be appropriate to add such material even if it may be displeasing to, for example, an institution or individual.

For example, there exists an article regarding a university. In this article, it is claimed that this institution is the largest, and best institution in this particular country. Both of these details currently in this article are widely known to be false. I would like to edit this article, specifically these details by providing factual data which is widely known and externally verifiable. In essence, I would like to remove details which are expressing an opinion as fact, and replace said details with fact, or, at a bare minimum, state that the information currently present are opinions and not fact.

It is know that providing such details would be perceived by this institution as damaging, even though this information is in fact true by the most sophisticated philosophical meaning of truth.

I do not want to be accused of vandalizing or defacing an article. Thus my question before you now.

Jasonalangraves 23:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

You may remove any unsourced information (the information you say is false, presumably). You should also add better information (and include Wikipedia:Reliable sources to back up the new statements). Your changes may be reverted by another editor though. If that happens, just discuss with the other editor on the article's talk page to resolve differences before moving forward. Articles should not have opinions not attributed to a reliable source in an article, so you can remove those also. Sancho 23:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

One other thing... "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." (from WP:V). Sancho 23:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

(after edit conflict)If content is accurate, and supported by citations of reliable sources it can and should be included no matter who is upset or displease Wikipedia is not censored. In removing unsourced opinion, you might do well to discuss the mater on the talk page of the article involved, or perhaps to use {{who}} asking who said that an institution was the best, largest, etc. Opinions should be attributed to specific people, and sourced. If you are adding content with which others may disagree, it might be well to include a reliable source citation right away, and perhaps to discuss the matter on the talk page -- certainly discuss the matter on the talk page if your edit is reverted or changed in a way you disagree with. Above all, do not engage in an edit war if others disagree, instead seek additional input or follow our dispute resolution procedure. DES ^(talk) 23:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)If it's controversial and verifiable, then go ahead and add it. If the text that's already in the article is unsourced and biased, then go ahead and remove it. Bear in mind, though, that opinions should never masquerade as fact even if they are verifiable. So for instance, if X Y and Z newspapers said that the university of foo bar was a bad university, you could only go as far to say it's been criticised, not that "it IS a bad university". If your statements are based on league tables or statistics, you can only quote those statistics, and not draw a conclusion that because of the statistics, the university must be bad. Hope that makes sense, - Zeibura ^(Talk) 23:58, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

June 20

my page

how can I change my wikipendia page

Hello, if you are referring to your user page User:Dweeks09, you can edit it by clicking your name at the top or the link here and editing it. --_Hdt83 ^Chat 00:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

And please add your signature to the end of your questions and comments on discussion pages. You can do this with four tildes - ~~~~. Corvus cornix 18:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

E-mail

Hi Wikipedia

My username: greg-nz

I have pushed the email new password button (repeatedly in frustration) and only got 1 reply. When I used the new password it didn't work. I would like to regain access to my account as I wish to add to some pages that are incomplete.

Regards

Greg Claridge

We get this kind of question frequently. There's no way for us at the help desk to find out your password or to send it to you. If the automated email system isn't doing the job, you should start a new account and pick up where you left off. You can redirect your old userpage to the new userpage so that people know who you are. For what it's worth, I don't see any edits in your contribution log for the last year, so you may have just forgotten the password or something. It's not a big deal. YechielMan 04:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Where is the article?

A few days ago, I traslated an article from English into Spanish (Aaron Austin), the article is already showing in the wikipedia in Spanish but when I'm at wikipedia in English, the only 2 languages this article is in are English and French, how can I add "Spanish" in the left column so when I click on it, it takes me to the Spanish article?? Thanks

Hi, to add a link to another language Wikipedia, add the following code[[es:''name of article in Spanish'']] to the English article. --_Hdt83 ^Chat 02:39, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Bookmarks / Favourites

Is it possible to "bookmark" articles of interest within one's Wikipedia account? I'm aware that specific pages can be bookmarked within a web-browser, but am wondering whether it can be bookmarked within Wikipedia so that one could access topics of interest (previously searched) from a remote computer.

I wish the Wikipedia has this function too, but it doesn't, to my knowledge. The best way I know is to (1) watchlist it, or (2) start up a user-sub-page with a list of your fav's on it. --Haemo 05:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Yep. I use a combination of the watchlist and a sub-page to track stuff I want to work on, or just articles I want to follow. -- Kesh 05:33, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Recent Vandalism on my user page [Ticket#2007061510002946]

I last edited my user page on May 12, 2007 and when I checked the page on June 17, I found that it was vandalized. I previously contacted Wikipedia to investigate the vandalism, and my userpage was obviously deleted becasue someone has been cyberbullying me that began on another site and has been investigated by me, as well with local police (as I have printed off the cyberbully's activities.

Now as a news junkie and an irritated Wikipedian, I am required to get to the bottom of the dispute and get some answers, pursuant to Wikipedia's Dispute resolution, in which I have proof that I have been cyberbullied.

(Aeverine Frathleen Nieves 05:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC))

I don't see any vandalism, though I do see one deletion. If your page was vandalized and then deleted as nonsense by an admin who didn't notice that it was a vandalized version, then I sincerely apologize on their behalf as I'm sure it was unintentional.

If that doesn't answer your question, could you please clarify what you mean? --tjstrf talk 05:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks like the page was deleted by admin Swatjester. The log isn't exactly clear why, though it looks like the problem was its content. See WP:NOT#BLOG, as user pages are not MySpace. -- Kesh 05:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Your version of the page was deleted, not the vandalized one. Perhaps you might contact Swatjester and ask him directly. Peacent 07:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Accuracy of content/disputes

There are certain articles, I feel, that have been written by english speaking contributors that appear to be unfamiliar with the region on which they have chosen to write about. This region is for the most part Francophone, which explains why these articles have been quite honestly hijacked by certain eccentric, propagandist contributors that impose "original" sources, that once researched, are quite flawed. How can I tag an article, or grade one..as it were?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariam83 (talk • contribs) 06:01, June 20, 2007 (UTC)

It would help if you linked to the articles in question, as I'm not sure exactly what the contention is. -- Kesh 06:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

If there are particular facts you don't agree with, and aren't sourced, then use the {{fact}} tag. If the whole article is like that, use the {{sources}}, and possibly use the {{npov}} tag, after starting a discussion on the talk page. --Haemo 06:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

BOSON THEORY

it is said that bosons has 26 dimensions but actually there are only 4 dimensions in space viz x,y,z and time then remaining 22 are which ? are the ficticious?or real124.125.89.3 06:09, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Please address this to the reference desk. --Haemo 06:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

• Who says all dimensions have to be in space? - Mgm|^(talk) 08:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, what do you mean by "real"? Would you, for example, consider electrons to be "real"? Theories involving electrons explain lots of real, observable phenomena to high precision, but I cannot directly observe an electron the way I can observe, for example, a brick. It would also be easier to persuade primitive people that bricks exist than electrons. Physical theories have lots of terms with variables and coefficients and so on; some of the terms have a direct everyday physical meaning, while others may not directly represent things accessible in isolation to ordinary human senses. --Teratornis 13:54, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

printing

usually printing is done in black colour,but if i want to print the page in any other colour then how to change the settings to print the page in our desired colour, please give me the steps.124.125.89.3 06:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Please address this to the reference desk. We only answer questions about Wikipedia. --Haemo 06:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Murugan N 06:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)how to add a topic in wikipedia?

Murugan N 06:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)how to add a topic in wikipedia?

If you are referring to creating a new article, then I suggest checking out Help:Starting_a_new_page for more information. Make sure that what you are submitting meets notability guidelines. --_Hdt83 ^Chat 06:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

help me

jreferee :) muchos thanks for the choc chip cookies, but not so nice is the post i found from another source saying that my article on C.C. Saint-Clair would be deleted unless i admitted to having written myself and a few other things that i don't get. of course i wrote it myself. i don't get the question.

look, jreferee, can u tell me where on MYtalk i'm supposed to ask my questions to you? can't find either box or link. i need to add footnotes and i'll do that on the weekend - after i figure out how to do it. i really need your help to make the article as solid as needed. getting this done is a lot more complex than i thought :)Soulward 07:22, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Click jreferee's name, then click "talk" at the top of the page. I don't, however, see this other comment you're talking about. --Haemo 07:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Budgets

I am an accounts assistant working for an intergovernmental/ Not-for-Profit organization. My boss currently asked me to prepare a suplementary budget for the organization to be discussed in a high profile meeting. What is the best approach to use in making the suplementary budget and are their any details that are crucial when preparing this document?Vivian-kobe 07:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi - you're looking for the reference desk. We answer questions about Wikipedia. --Haemo 07:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

help me

jreferee :) muchos thanks for the choc chip cookies, but not so nice is the post i found from another source saying that my article on C.C. Saint-Clair would be deleted unless i admitted to having written myself and a few other things that i don't get. of course i wrote it myself.

"If you upload a file here to which you hold the copyright, you must license it under a free license or release it into the public domain." I don't 'hold' a copyright as such but is the copyright in this case simply (c)soulward 2007?

look, jreferee, can u tell me where on MYtalk i'm supposed to ask my questions to you? can't find either box or link. i need to add footnotes and i'll do that on the weekend - after i figure out how to do it. i really need your help to make the article as solid as needed. getting this done is a lot more complex than i thought :)Soulward 07:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, it sounds like you're trying to upload an image, am I right? What is the origin of the picture you're trying to upload? --Haemo 07:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

.GPRS TLD

What have you to comment on .gprs TLD ?

Nothing at all because this is a help desk designed to help people use wikipedia and not answer those sorts of questions? you might want to try the reference desk that is linked at the top of this page. --Fredrick day 08:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

cant find a page

hi I m Kanwal Khurshid from Karachi Pakistan.08:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)I tried to find out the page for joining wikipedia foundation but cant find it can you people help me on this matter08:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC).thanx

Well, you have an account, so you're already a part of Wikipedia. Does that answer your question? --Haemo 08:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Which is the only sport where left hand is not used?

Which is the only sport where left hand is not used?

Hi - this help desk is designed to answer questions about wikipedia not general knowledge/pub quiz type questions. You will have better luck asking people at the reference desk (linked at the top of this page). --Fredrick day 09:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I have to wonder about the stipulation: only. Suppose one finds a sport where the left hand is not used. To prove it is the only sport where the left hand is not used, one would have to identify all other sports and show that the left hand is used in each of them. That would pose several difficulties, such as defining exactly what is sport, determining whether two similar sports or separate events within a given sport count as one sport or two, and examining all human cultures in enough depth to identify and analyze all their sports. There are some Irish dance competitions in which competitors appear to make no use of either hand; would that count? --Teratornis 18:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

No matter what the sport is, the competitors will probably use their left hand for something, if only to improve their balance when moving. The only foolprof answer would be Sinister amputee ball, a hypothetical sport where the amputation of your left hand is a requirement to play. --tjstrf talk 18:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

But couldn't submitting one's left hand for amputation be considering "using" it? Perhaps a better example might be competitive yodeling. Is the spelling bee considered a sport? --Teratornis 16:59, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Or how about Dog racing? Greyhounds do not have hands, therefore in greyhound races the left hand is not used. --Teratornis 17:01, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

The amputation isn't part of the sport itself, it's a prerequisite that must have been done before you can enter. So hah! :P

Also, I've seen spelling bee contestants drumming the fingers of their left hand during the game, which I'm pretty sure qualifies as using it. --tjstrf talk 20:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

help me

Haemo, hi, no, no image for now, tho i'd like to post an image but woh! it all appears way too complicated.

it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.C._Saint-Clair. jreferee has already cleaned it up & put it in sections, so if u read this, jreferee, thanks heaps for that :)

for now haemo, u see anything else that's needed to avoid deletion? do i really need footnotes or am i freaking out about nothing real? Soulward 09:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like you're asking someone to review the article, right? The best places to enlist help for that are on the article's Talk page or the LGBT studies Talk page, rather than here. I took a quick look and it appears you have an excellent start on using the WikiPorject Biography guidelines to producing a good article. At this point I would either create some text to go with the section headings lacking content or remove them until you have suitable, referenced material to insert. Also, review how to create footnotes for citations so you can format the inline cites correctly. Good luck. Jim Dunning | talk 19:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Multiple infoboxes

How can I place info-boxes side-by-side instead of one below another (which is the default layout when there are more than one info-boxes) ? -- Myth (Talk) 09:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

The placement of the Infoboxes is usually a parameter in the template definition, something you wouldn't want to change for a one-off instance. You could try arranging them in individual cells in a table, although the html and css rendering in various browsers could be unpredictable or downright ugly (it might work, though). Experiment with this in a Sandbox first, though, before trying it in the article itself. I have to ask whether multiple Infoboxes in an article is advisable, since they are intended to summarize; multiple boxes seems to defeat this purpose. Maybe you could consider presenting the desired information in another format? Good luck. Jim Dunning | talk 18:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I guess my use of word info-box was misleading. What I meant was navigation boxes (e.g. the article on love has two such boxes). I will try playing around I the sandbox. Thanks. -- Myth (Talk) 20:09, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I see what you mean. Technically, my response still applies, but in looking at it I'm not sure you need to do anything. You still could remove a nav boxes and put the links in a "See also" at the bottom. A quick review strikes me that the "Close relationships" box may not be very relevant to the Love article. Jim Dunning | talk 20:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Moving them inside a table works fine. Thanks for the help. -- Myth (Talk) 20:57, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

help

I am looking a way to have, a word typed in English and then been written, say in Hindi, Gujerati, or Tamil. Any clues, or sites where I can have this?

Look forward to some feedback!

Thanks in Advance

how to check our mail

There are ways of doing this, but the help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. Sorry. YechielMan 13:10, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

CPDL

Could someone tell me why CPDL isn't working, and when it will be back up and running? Thanks193.128.104.10 10:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Please tell us what you mean by CPDL. Is it one of the two items at CPDL? If so, this is probably a question for the reference desk. YechielMan 13:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this a good summarization?

Summary: Sivaji_(film)#Soundtrack Main Text: Sivaji:_The_Boss_(soundtrack)

I was wondering if I should remove the album infobox from the summary. And yes I know the main text looks a bit "bad"... ~~ Vagish ^Talk 11:17, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

If you're asking for someone to review the article, the article's Talk page is probably the place to start. You could also try recruiting reviewers at WikiProject Indian cinema, or more specifically its Talk page. Ultimately, if you feel the article is in pretty good shape, you could request a Peer review by placing {{peerreview}} on the article's Talk page (although given the sheer number of maintenance tags on the article, you may want to hold off awhile on that step). Jim Dunning | talk 18:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Graphical representation of links between pages

This might be difficult but I would like to show the links from a given page to other pages.

This would look something like a "mind map" with a central theme and branches (and sub-branches) running off.

Clearly this could get very complex for the whole of Wikipedia but I would like to show the 'islands' of knowledge making up an archepelago. I want to show the 'clotting' around a theme and the non-linear relationship.

I assume that the number of sub-branches would have to be limited!

SteveG

I don't really understand your suggestion, but we try to keep pages organized by Wikipedia:Categories and Special:Whatlinkshere for each page. You can refer your idea to the village pump. YechielMan 13:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

We have something like this running on the toolserver, I saw it a few weeks ago but I don't recall the name. I'd assume they have a search feature or something though. Sorry I can't give you any better pointer than that. --tjstrf talk 18:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at this image which shows links associated to several core themes. Each core can have links between them. I want to try to do this graphically for wiki links [26]

SteveG — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.6.25.118 (talk • contribs)

See User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Bro which has a link to Wikipedia Explorer. --Teratornis 17:18, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Can you delete the artcle I created 'Rehbar-1'.

Similar information has alreday been post in the SUPARCO article. If not, can you please rename the article as 'Rehbar - I'. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dildar Hussain (talk • contribs)

I have requested the article be deleted for you under the speedy deletion criterion 'author request'. In future you can request the deletion of articles that you have created and have been the only significant author to by placing {{db-author}} at the top of the article. Happy editing, mattbr 14:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

An administrator declined deletion, so I have moved the page to Rehbar-I. If you still wish to have it deleted place {{db-author}} at the top of the article. mattbr 14:58, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank You DH

Image manipulation?

I want to better illustrate the article on Omaha Beach by taking the map that is already displayed there, cropping it a little, and using a graphics program to highlight individual sectors of the beach (fading the rest of the image) as they come up in the article. Am I permitted to do this or will this breach any copyright? --FactotEm 12:33, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

There's no issue with copyright. We have a number of different licensing formulas on Wikipedia (fair use, public domain, GFDL, etc.) so if you're editing an image that's already in the article, you're either adapting a copyrighted image which has already been approved, or you're creating a free image. I'm not sure which, but either way it's okay. Just leave a note on Talk:Omaha Beach to explain what you're doing. YechielMan 13:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Great. Thanks for the swift answer. --FactotEm 13:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Canberra Knights

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canberra_Knights

I created this page and have added a substantial amount of information to it, how do I get it out of the stub class? I know for sure that it is no longer a stub classed article.

Right now, it's not marked as a stub. We try to avoid instruction creep, so there are no firm rules about what is and isn't a stub. If you think your article is not a stub, be bold and remove the stub tag yourself. That's how the wiki is meant to work! YechielMan 13:04, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

How would i go about doing that? User:Tnbyrnes

Actually the stub marking is not on Canberra Knights itself, but on its talk page: Talk:Canberra Knights in the form of this template call:

{{ice hockey|class=stub}}

Obviously you want to change the class=stub part to: class=something else. See the {{Ice hockey}} template for details, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Assessment. You (Tnbyrnes) should probably join Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey. --Teratornis 14:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Clicking an Image to go to another page instead of description page

Is there any way that I can link an image to another page other than its descrtiption page? I want to be able for the picture to take the viewer to another link internally but with more information about the subject instead of just where the page lives.

While it may be technically possible to do this, it is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. Image-only links can make it much more difficult for the visually-impaired to use Wikipedia, and can be confusing even for those with good vision (see mystery meat navigation). Such links would be prone to sneaky vandalism (a vandal could surreptitiously change the linked target of the image). Finally, since linking through an image is not done elsewhere in Wikipedia articles, it's apt to generate confusion among regular readers of Wikipedia ("Can I click on this image? How about this one? Or this one? There was that one article where I had to click images...." or worse, "How the heck to get to the other articles? All I can see is a bunch of pictures...."). TenOfAllTrades(talk) 13:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

While it's strongly discouraged here, you might take a look at Template:Click, which is made for this purpose. Freestyle 14:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Move tab?

Why don't I see the move tab on articles? --Foucault's Folly 14:04, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

You have to be autoconfirmed before you can move pages, and this happens 4 days after your account was created. As you only registered ~12 hours ago, your account is not yet autoconfirmed. Before that happens, if you need a page moving, you can ask another editor to move it for you (such as on the talk page or if you post it here), list the page at WP:RM or wait until the 4 days have passed (see Help:Moving a page for instructions). Please be cautious of moving popular pages, and check the talk page and article history before you do. Hope that helps, mattbr 14:18, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Biography of David Hoon Kim, fiction, New Yorker magazine

When and where in South Korea was he born, parentage, siblings. The New Yorker published his first story in the june 18-25 issue. Has he been published elsewhere? Subject/brief summary of previous stories.

71.232.110.242 14:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)paula.c–

Unfortunately Wikipedia does not have an article on David Hoon Kim, so you might be able to find the information you want by using a search engine such as Google or you could ask the question at the reference desk where they specialize in answering knowledge questions (this page is for questions about using Wikipedia). Hope that helps, mattbr 15:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

John Alder (Twink) of the Pink Fairies

I would like to know if Johnny Alder is still performing and if so is it possible to tell me who with and where.

I am an old friend and have not seen him in over twenty years. Thank you

Regards

Les Aves —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.145.66.155 (talk • contribs).

You might be able to find the information you want by following the links in the article Twink (musician), by using a search engine such as Google or you could ask the question at the entertainment reference desk. Hope that helps, mattbr 15:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

amarkantak

I want details about the place amarkantak in madhya pradesh state of india —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 122.164.74.147 (talk • contribs).

See the article Amarkantak. mattbr 15:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Template for major editing task-many edits made in short period of time-warning to other editors

Hey, I was wondering what the template is that goes on the front page of an article to let other editors know that major changes are temporarily being made to the article. I have seen this on other articles before but I don't know where to go to find it. I want to overhaul the references to an article (about 70) to bring it up to good article status. However, I don't want to disrupt other editors (edit conflicts and so forth). Hope I made my request clear as it is not the most common template. Thanks. Turtlescrubber 16:03, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

{{inuse}} should suit your needs, and you can provide a description of what you are doing on it and how long for. Hope that helps, mattbr 16:17, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, that was what I was looking for. Turtlescrubber 16:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

You could also consider using a Sandbox for your drafts, which will allow you to work free from other editors' interruptions. Once satisfied with your efforts, you can copy them into the article. Jim Dunning | talk 17:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Title Case

Why does Wikipedia tell users to ignore basic grammatical principles when creating titles? Titles are capitalized unless they contain and, but, or, or other short words.Antigone28 17:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

This is the general convention in encyclopedias; it also allows us to have both Supermassive black hole, an astrophysical phenomenon, and Supermassive Black Hole, a song, without having to add disambiguators (such as 'Supermassive Black Hole (Astrophysics)' and 'Supermassive Black Hole (song)'). Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 17:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:TITLE and WP:CAPS could do a better job of justifying Wikipedia's peculiar convention for title case. I'm used to the convention now, but it looked strange to me when I was new here, and I inadvertently violated the title case convention in some of my early edits. Wikipedia's title case convention also creates a bit of a problem for corporate wikis that run on the MediaWiki software and more or less follow other Wikipedia guidelines. As the corporate wiki administrator, does one try to persuade all users to follow Wikipedia's convention for title case? That's what I have tried to do on the corporate wikis I administer, with mixed results (because the corporate wikis are the first wikis most of my users have edited on, so there is no community of Wikipedia-trained users to "ride herd"). It would help if WP:CAPS contained a section making a more convincing case for Wikipedia's title case. My fallback argument in the corporate wiki context is basically this: Wikipedia is a leading example (possibly the pre-eminent example) of an extremely well-run wiki. The people who run Wikipedia almost certainly know a lot more about how to run a wiki than we (the relatively inexperienced corporate wiki users) do. Therefore, we should follow Wikipedia's ways unless we really know what we are doing and we have overriding reasons to do things differently. It's cheaper for us to learn from Wikipedia's experience than to repeat the process of trial and error that led to Wikipedia's current guidelines. --Teratornis 17:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

possible stealth vandal: asian characters expert

i don't know where else to go with this, so i'm posting here for assistance and/or direction:

Iokseng (talk · contribs) has been making suspicious edits to articles using asian characters. once such edit was made to the article Double Fifth, which i know to be incorrect, and quite possibly vandalism. i've reverted the changes on that page, but if there's someone who can point me in the right direction to find someone to check up this dude, it would be great. --emerson7 | Talk 18:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I checked his contributions, and he's doing good work. He's adding interwiki links from articles in the English Wikipedia to articles in the Chinese Wikipedia, and removing such links where he considers them inaccurate. It's possible that he may have made one or two mistakes, and if you think so, you should ask him on his talk page. In general, though, he's a good faith editor.

Generally, queries of this nature belong at WP:ANI. YechielMan 19:59, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Lyrics on song pages

On a few pages about songs, lyrics have been removed. I wanted to know if it was inappropriate to put lyrics so I could remove them if I see them again. Thanks! --Mlle thenardier 18:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)Mlle Thenardier

Lyrics are copyrighted, and should not be included unless there is a discussion about the lyrics (and then only those lyrics which are being discussed). Or if the lyrics are out of copyright, depending on their age, or have been put into the public domain, like possibly national anthems. Such articles as "We Didn't Start the Fire" and "American Pie" discuss the lyrics, so there they can be considered fair use. Corvus cornix 18:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry. PrimeHunter 18:45, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that, PrimeHunter, I never knew that page existed. Corvus cornix 22:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Numbering Items

Please help me figure out how to number items and create sub numbered items in a document. Here is how the numbers would have to format -

1 Overview
1.1 Requirements
1.1.1 First Requirement
1.1.2 Second Requirement
1.1.3 Third Requirement
1.2 Deferred Requirements
1.2.1 First Deferred Requirement

Does wikipedia have some numbering method that allows for these number to be automatically assigned in the text of a document? Using the number sign does not accommodate this need, and I can't find a solution yet.

Your help would be greatly appreciated!!!!

75.82.202.78 18:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

There isn't a way to place section number into the text of a document unless you do it by hand. However, the table of contents automatically inserts a numbered contents list in exactly the way you describe. Look at any long article - for example, History of Australia - and you will see.

The way to produce differential headings in the table of contents is to use increasing numbers of = signs at the top of each section. Thus:

Major section

(Two == on each side of the headline text.)

Subsection

(Three ===.)

Detail 1

(Four ====.)

Detail 2

(Again four ====.)

For further information, please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style. YechielMan 19:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

The way to do this is to go to your preferences page (you need to be logged in). click on the Misc tab and select Auto-number headings. Save your preferences. Now you can see the numbering on the section and sub-sections. Hope this helps. -- Myth (Talk) 20:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism, or helpful?

I have seen tons of Talk Pages with LOADS of forum-like topics. Would it be vandalism to delete these "Forum" topics? ~Crowstar~ 19:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Removing off-topic conversation is not vandalism. Friday (talk) 19:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. ~Crowstar~ 20:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

COI and Starting a page

I work for a non-profit organization similar to CARE. I noticed that CARE has an entry in Wikipedia. I would like to put up an entry for my organization as well. However, I noticed that you discourage people with CoI from editing existing pages. Should I assume that this also extends to entering new pages? Would it be appropriate to request the page be developed?

Yes, in fact I would say it applies even more to starting a new page. Whereas it can be innocuous to correct a plain factual inaccuracy, for example, in a pre-existing page, creating a page from scratch is much more extensive. You can request that someone else create an article at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. However, this does not guarantee that someone will create it. Eventually, if there are enough reliable sources on the organization and it is notable enough, someone will create the article. —Centrx→talk • 20:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit confilct) It is not recommended to create or edit any article as per conflict of interest. Even the most careful editor can make something they are involved in not quite Neutral Point of view. It is best to leave it. Anyway, someone else can create it. You can also list it on Wikipedia:Requested articles and someone will then spot it and sort it out for you. :) Stwalkerster talk 20:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you look on Wikipedia:Articles for creation, it's got a big warning about most articles being rejected. In your case, you need to consider the notability guideline for corporations (not precisely for an NPO but roughly equivalent) and whether your organisation meets the requirements - mainly, are there multiple non-trivial references in reliable third-party sources (e.g. newspaper or magazine articles) that you can provide to back up any claims in the article? Confusing Manifestation 22:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Editing Help

I'm trying to find an article, but am not having any luck. I have seen it before but I have no idea what I searched for.

Basically, it was an article that talked about how people should not edit box scores or sports information while the event was occurring. That it was policy to update it after it occurred, that way there was not tons of edits, and just one big one. For example, a baseball game. It would be better to edit the box score for all innings when the game was final, instead of making an update every half inning, which would make it over 20 edits to one part of an article.

Let me know if this isn't clear. Thanks in advance for the help.

I don't know whether there is guideline speaking directly about this. I have seen discussion at Talk:2007 NBA Playoffs#Why no updating of score, and User talk:Soxrock/Archive 1#Updating scores (and later sections). WP:NOT#PUBLISHER is sometimes quoted by opponents. It does not mention sports scores. PrimeHunter 21:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#question about WP:NOT#PUBLISHER. PrimeHunter 21:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Mapping

I want to make a map depicting the extent of a region defined by a list of geographic coordinates corresponding the the region's vertices. I want to overlay this region onto a map of Canada that includes waters right up to the North Pole. This is where I need help: does anyone know of a good SVG source of a map of Canada that I can use for this? Also, is there any good freeware mapping software for Mac OS X? Sancho 20:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Not sure, but there is a WikiProject Maps where someone might be able to help. Adrian M. H. 20:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

You may find free mapping software at Category:Free GIS software. See User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Map for a list of links compiled by several Wikipedia users relating to maps on Wikipedia. For example, you may find these links useful: Wikipedia:Blank maps, Category:Wikipedia requested maps, and Wikipedia:Producing maps with xplanet. --Teratornis 13:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

The Scalable Vector Graphics article does not (yet) mention mapping or cartography, but this Google Search on Wikipedia for: Web mapping finds many links to images in SVG format, many of which appear to be geographic maps. You might contact some of the editors who uploaded those maps and ask how they made them. Or just read the comments on the image pages and look for clues about the software they used, and where they obtained the map data. --Teratornis 13:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

This is absolutly ridicilous

I have been looking through your articles about Zimbabwe and South Africa, All incorrect! What is Pomping? I want to talk to a Zimbabwen or South African admin or editor to discuss my proposed chances. Where can I find one? Thank You --Zwerrifringweraand 21:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Use article talk pages for discussing changes to the articles. Friday (talk) 21:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you --Zwerrifringweraand 21:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:WikiProject Zimbabwe; you could join the projectYou already joined the project, so you might list your proposed changes on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Zimbabwe. There is also a Wikipedia:WikiProject South Africa. --Teratornis 13:58, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Protocols

protocols — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.225.129.125 (talk)

Do you have a question? PrimeHunter 21:39, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

The Protocol article lists several kinds of protocols and links to articles about them, which should answer many possible questions about protocols. --Teratornis 14:01, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

about john keats

give me some beautiful poems of JOHN KEATS ABOUT BEAUTY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.222.140 (talk)

Perhaps you can find useful links in John Keats. PrimeHunter 21:43, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikisource:Author:John Keats, from Wikisource --h2g2bob (talk) 23:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

IPS

THE LAW THAT TOOK PLACE REGARDING THE IPS SCHOOLS WEARING SCHOOL UNIFORMS DO THAT INCLUDE THE HIGHSCHOOLS ALSO?

Please don't type all in capital letters LIKE THIS, on the internet it's equivalent to shouting. Second, this is the Help Desk for asking about Wikipedia-related information. The Reference Desk handles other knowledge-related questions. Thirdly, I have no clue what IPS schools are. From looking at IPS, do you mean Indianapolis Public Schools, Marion County, Indiana? In which case, this document suggests that they do. Confusing Manifestation 22:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Template that lets you show how to use a template

I think I've seen a template that allows you to essentially "quote" a template and demonstrate template usage: e.g.

{{foo|holdon}}

would expand to something like

{{[[Template:holdon|holdon]]}}

and the { and }s would come through as actual characters, instead of being treated as a template. (And, without the ugliness of pre tags, so you could use it inline in a sentence). Does this actually exist? I did some digging in the docs but couldn't find anything, but I'm not really sure what to search for, so I came here. Thanks! Iknowyourider (t c) 23:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

{{tl}} and {{tlx}} --h2g2bob (talk) 23:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

USING ALL CAPS

Is there any Wikipedia process addressing the use of ALL CAPS in discussions? I checked Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:Etiquette, but couldn't find anything. I found a post "It is very important not to write all in capital letters, and to understand how the two types of letters are use in English. On the internet, writing in all capital letters is considered to signify shouting, and others will think it very rude indeed." but no Wikipedia source cited. I would be happy even if you located a Wikipedia essay addressing the matter. Thanks! -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:24, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

See WP:TALK -

Avoid excessive markup: It undermines a reasoned argument with the appearance of force through Italic text, Bolded text, and especially CAPITAL LETTERS, which are considered SHOUTING, and RANTING!!!!! Italics, however, can be usefully employed for a key word, to distinguish quoted text from new text and, of course, book titles etc.

--Haemo 00:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response! -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

bujutsu / budo corrections

How do I go about offer-eing corrections for incorrect information under the heading Budo?

Either do it yourself, by clicking "edit", or use the talk page. --Haemo 00:30, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

The talk page in question is Talk:Budo. See Help:Talk page so you know how to follow the talk page guidelines. --Teratornis 14:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Faceboy's page deleted

This morning, I found out that a page was created for Faceboy, the stage name of a NYC Lower East Side-based poet, open mic host who is a force behind the Art Stars movement, a community of artistic minded people. The page was marked for speedy deletion, presumably because it was not extensive enough to denote his notariety. As soon as it was marked, people who are online and familiar with Faceboy's work started pulling together links to articles and similar backing info to fill out the page. The page was coming along nicely, when it was deleted -- despite the efforts to meet standards. Why wasn't this page given enough time to evolve into a page that met standards? Clearly there were people working on it. It makes no sense. Digit LeBoid 01:35, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Use Deletion review to protest a deletion. --Haemo 01:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Faceboy was deleted [27] by User:Anetode with reference to WP:CSD#A7. You can contact that editor at User talk:Anetode. See also Wikipedia:Notability (people) and Wikipedia:Deletion policy. I see Talk:Faceboy has been created after the deletion. Wikipedia does usually not have talk pages for deleted articles and it is at risk of being deleted. PrimeHunter 01:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it looks like the talk page had existed a few hours when the article was deleted, and Anetode omitted to delete the talk page. PrimeHunter 01:57, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello. I am Francis R Hall aka Faceboy. Please forgive me if I am not properly addressing this issue in the correct forum. I posted on the Talk:Faceboy page already but that too is, "at risk of being deleted". PrimeHunter and/or Anetode I would very much appreciate it if you would look at my post on Talk:Faceboy and bring back the page which you should see was deleted erroneously. Thank you. Faceboynyc 15:18, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not an administrator, so I cannot see or bring back deleted articles. Wikipedia has many policies and guidelines, and an administrator deleted the article because it appeared to fail them. If the person satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (people) (which I'm unsure about), then perhaps the problem can be solved by modifying the deleted article. You can discuss with the deleting administrator by placing a message at User talk:Anetode. The software alerts editors about new messages to their talk page. PrimeHunter 17:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Jens (PrimeHunter). As noted I am new to these boards. I saw that you had been awarded here for helping editors and can see from your speedy response why that would be. I do wonder with all the evidence presented, the ease with which one can google Faceboyz Open Mike and the several references already on Wikipedia (Art Stars, Surf Reality, etc)to me why you would still be unsure about whether I meet the guidelines for notable people. After reviewing said guidelines I would certainly think that my two best of Manhattan awards from the New York Press, two Best of New York awards from the Village Voice, referances in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal etc. would more than suffice. Nonetheless I appreciate your help and will probably follow your suggestions. Thanks again. Faceboynyc 21:08, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

As mentioned, I cannot see the deleted article. I had not seen "Faceboyz" before and only googled "Faceboy", and I did not examine the found pages. People considered suitable for a biography often have more Google hits, but the important thing is who the sources are and what the say, and not how many hits there are on the name. PrimeHunter 21:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Jens, you are being so kind. Unfortunately my lack of internet experience is making this whole thing kind of difficult. When I clicked the suggested link I still couldn't figure out exactly where to go to talk directly to Anetode. If you don't mind helping a little more perhaps you could google, "Faceboyz Open Mike" wherein you will find the required sources including a full page article from Time Out New York entitled, "Mr. Microphone" which was written as coverage for my 600th open mike, also covered on N.B.C. television. The truth is I find all of this a little embarassing but fortunately have some extra time this week. Wikipedia is widely respected otherwise I wouldn't be doing this and again, truly appreciate your help and speedy replies. Could you maybe please use your expertise and experience just a little more and perhaps once you've seen the evidence contact Anetode for me?Faceboynyc 22:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

To write a message to Anedote, go to User talk:Anetode and click + at the top. Note that WP:CSD#A7 says "An article about a real person ... that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject". I'm not the right person to discuss with since I haven't seen the article, but maybe the problem was lack of the required assertion, or of reliable sources. Many articles about people failing Wikipedia:Notability (people) are created every day - often by themselves, and often making wildly exaggerated unsourced claims. The editors don't always have time to search for information to see whether an article with unsuitable content can be changed into something satisfying our guidelines. I rarely edit biographies and don't know American media or your business, so I don't want to help research sources or write an article. PrimeHunter 22:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

As has been established, I didn't attempt to start a page here on myself. In my opinion that would be unbecoming of a gentleman. I'm sorry that you thought I was asking you to write an article on me and the help you've provided in leading me to the click x certainly suffices for what I meant to request. I'm assuming good faith on your behalf that you were not refering to me as one, "making wildly exaggerated unsourced claims". Since you don't know American media or my business I agree that you are not the right person to discuss this with. In American media the front page of the arts and leisure section of the Sunday edition or the New York Times could be considered the most "reliable source" for my field. Guess where I found the link mentioning my show as, "consistently entertaining" in a four page article from just that source? Of course right here in your Wikipedia under Art Stars wherein Faceboyz Open Mike also appears. Here it is as it appears in my attempt to cut and paste from your source (I'm really not good with computers); # Take The New Comedy. Please. PDF version of New York Times article by Neil Strauss. Anyway I'll take this up with Anetode some day via the click x and wish you the best with your interests in prime constellation records. I do hope that my friends account with your Wikipedia that has been deleted presumably for his kindness in starting all of this is reinstated soon but please don't think I'm asking for your help any further. Take care,Faceboynyc 04:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Contacting Members.....

I just logged into your network today and everything seems so new/strange to me. I would appreciate your advising me how to look up biographies of members, and then how to contact a member via email. Thank You ! Sincerely, Todd1970 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Todd1970 (talk • contribs)

Not all members have bios, or email. You can view both if they exist, by clicking on their usernames. --Haemo 02:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Note that Wikipedia (see also Wikipedia:About) is not a social network. It's a free encyclopedia and we are the editors. We usually contact other editors to discuss editing by placing a message on their user talk page or the talk page of an article. PrimeHunter 03:14, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

See: Wikipedia:Emailing users and Help:Talk page. It's hard to know which form of communication between users is more common (although I imagine the MediaWiki software that runs Wikipedia is keeping track somewhere). I imagine that most experienced editors prefer to communicate via talk pages, but users with less experience vastly outnumber experienced users on Wikipedia (there are 49,128,620 registered user accounts, and perhaps a comparable number of unregistered users, but only a tiny percentage have a substantial number of edits yet; user edits may follow a Pareto distribution similar to personal wealth, the sizes of human settlements, and the sizes of meteorites (I'm no mathematician but I recognize a Pareto distribution when I see one, even if I could not just now remember the name of it and I had to click a few links on Wikipedia to recall it from information I did remember)). Almost everybody who visits Wikipedia is already familiar with e-mail, so that might be the first method they think to use. Talk pages, however, have several advantages over e-mail (for example, the discussion about an article stays attached to the article for everyone else to easily find), so we (the relatively experienced users who answer questions on the Help desk) like to use them. Read Help:Talk page to learn the talk page guidelines. --Teratornis 14:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I should mention another huge advantage of talk pages: since they are wiki pages, they have the full expressive power of wikitext. For example, it's very easy to add links to a talk page entry (as I am doing here), so you merely refer to information on another page without having to retype or paraphrase all of it. In e-mail, generally we have to refer to things by URL which is clumsier to type and harder to read, and many people who write e-mail don't bother to provide links for the various things they mention, even when the reader might well need such links to get more background. --Teratornis 14:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Pictures in Infoboxes

I have uploaded a picture into the infobox of cricketer Graeme Smith but it seems to be too small. If I were to place the picture elsewhere in the article I could have it massive. Is there a way to make it bigger such as with the one on Steve Harmison's infobox? Cheers Crickettragic 05:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Harminson's pic only looks larger because it's a closer shot and it has a longer vertical dimension — the width dimension in both articles is identical, however. I checked the specs for the Infobox Cricketer template and it specifies a width of 154px. Many Infoboxes allow the dimensions to be set as a parameter on the article page, but not this one. It's certainly possible for someone to change the hardcoded 154px value to something larger, but keep in mind it will affect every article that uses that box. I checked recommended Infoboxes at WikiProject Cricket to see if there was an alternative available that allowed setting the pixels, and although they sure have a lot of boxes, none fits your need. You might be better off finding a better pic of Smith. Or discuss changing the Infobox specs on the Cricket Project's Talk page. Jim Dunning | talk 06:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Alleged breach of copyright

My 3 recent small contributions regarding 103 Squadron RAF, 576 Squadron RAF and RAF Elsham Wolds have been deleted due to some copyright reason. I do not understand. I wrote these 3 little historical summaries in 1998. All 3 appear on the Squadron website and the Association website. I am the main contributor of the former and the webmaster of the later. Please explain how this has happened and advise what I should do to correct this. Amberleaf11947 07:59, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

We can't accept material which has been published previously, without written consent of the original author. Use the "contact us" link to get in touch with with someone who can help you sort this out. --Haemo 08:02, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Not necessarily "the original author". If the original author is an employee of a company which owns the website where the material appears, or has given exclusive copyright to that company, then the company itself is the copyright holder. If Amberleaf11947 is the copyright holder, then he/she should read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Corvus cornix 23:26, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Link a wikipedia search results page

^{Superscript text}how can i link a wikipedia search results page to my own web site. [[ == PORRIK ==]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.195.205.66 (talk)

Do the search. Copy & paste the link into your website.

If you want the results themselves to display inside your page, updated in real time... don't. It'd be using Wikipedia's servers to constantly do work for your own website when anyone visits your site. Not cool. -- Kesh 22:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

New password

Please assist.

After severall attemps a new password was not recieved via e-mail. My Username is Mattie and my e-mail adress is (removed) I need assistance urgently — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.242.205.184 (talk)

User:Mattie has a single edit [28] in 2006. If it is you, or if you tried to create an account and have no edits, then just create a new account. PrimeHunter 15:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

MS Dos

How to start a Dos program. 4.250.45.210 11:12, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

This is the page for asking questions about Wikipedia itself. You want the WP:Reference desk. -- Kesh 22:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Problems with image tagging

I would like to know what is the correct tag for using a portrait-type photograph such as actors use - commonly known as a "head shot". With these type of pictures, a commercial photographer takes the picture, but the subject purchases all rights to use of the picture.

I have had a picture deleted twice, not because it wasn't relevant but because it had the wrong tag. The subject has given full permission for the use of this photo.

Jo

{{promotional}} I believe is what you're looking for. Dismas|^(talk) 11:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, not really because it is not copyrighted. It should be some sort of fair use, but I don't know what tag to use. It's not a promotional photo connected with an event, more of an official portrait.

Problem with another user

If I am having a problem with another user's actions, but I am the only one having said problems, how can I go about reporting this and having the issue addressed? I requested mediation with the person, who refused; I posted a notice at the Admin's noticeboard, and it went by ignored and I was reprimanded for posting in the wrong place; A request for comment on the article where the user has violated several policies, was ignored and I was told that I needed to begin a Request for comment on the user himself; I began a request for comment on the user and now find out that two users must be having the same problem for it to even be considered.

If a user is personally harassing me and breaking policies, there has to be some way for this to be addressed. How on earth can I do this? Rhythmnation2004 11:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

TRAIN STOPAGE

PL LET ME KNOW WHETER VIRAMGAM PASSANGER STOPS AT ANDHERI ?

Don't type it all caps. It is the Internet equivalent of screaming at people. Also, this is a help desk for Wikipedia, not for the Surat Rail Service. --Kainaw ^(talk) 13:27, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

ComponentOne

Thanks for the feedback. I’m interested in placing an entry about ComponentOne into Wikipedia in order to tell about our 20-year history in Pittsburgh, PA and San Francisco, CA and the interesting evolution of our products. This is my initial entry which I don’t believe to be “Blatant Advertising” as it has been categorized, given the definition of the same that has been provided. In addition, a company that is similar to ours in history and product called “Developer Express” has a detailed entry which has been accepted by Wikipedia and revised many times by an employee within that company.

If you could give some detail as to how the submitted text falls into the “Blatant Advertising” category I would be most appreciative. I will revise and resubmit upon your feedback.

Tracyngunz 13:02, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

ComponentOne was deleted after being tagged with {{db-spam}}. See also Wikipedia:Spam#Advertisements masquerading as articles. I'm not an administrator so I cannot see the deleted article. Wikipedia:Conflict of interest strongly discourages to make an article about your own company. If it satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) then somebody else will probably make an article at some time. Articles should be based on Wikipedia:Reliable sources, and satisfy Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. PrimeHunter 14:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Also see: WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. The Developer Express article you mention as being comparable to your ComponentOne article may not yet have received scrutiny from experienced Wikipedia editors to see whether it complies with Wikipedia policies. (Wikipedia is an all-volunteer project, with relatively few experienced users to police the work of many inexperienced users whose first ambition is often to create new articles. One could argue that this is a kind of ergonomic bug in Wikipedia, as its design appears to encourage new users to start out the "wrong" way, i.e., creating new articles without first gaining experience by making many small edits to existing articles and understanding how Wikipedia works.) However, now that you have mentioned it on the Help desk, Developer Express may well receive some further oversight. For a better example (in fact a featured example) of an article about a corporation, see: Microsoft. We may strongly suspect the Microsoft article has received input from Microsoft employees; yet they managed to comply with Wikipedia policies well enough for the article to receive Wikipedia's highest quality rating. If you can rewrite ComponentOne such that it satisfies the requirements for a featured article, it won't get deleted. Note that satisfying those requirements is not easy, although everything one could need to know about how to do it has been written in Wikipedia's manuals.

In any case, see Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted?. Google:ComponentOne finds lots of hits, so the company almost certainly satisfies the notability requirement. You might try recreating your article on another wiki so we can see it, and advise you on what it would need to satisfy Wikipedia's policies. (Another arguable ergonomic bug on Wikipedia is that only administrators can see the text of deleted articles; usually by the time a user asks Why was my article deleted? on the Help desk, the article is already deleted, and many Help desk volunteers are not administrators, so we can't see it to provide specific advice, and most people who end up asking why their articles were deleted are new users, so they were not initially aware of the high probability that their new articles would be deleted, and they did not save a copy for our review. All these factors come together to create a perfect storm for new users who begin by assuming a good first Wikipedia editing project is to create a new article.) --Teratornis 15:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

White House image 1865 - copyright tag

Okay. I'm new and clueless here. I filled out the fields that were available when I uploaded the image. Now I'm told that I need to re-format the image in edit, I presume, but no instructions on exactly what the tag line should look like, where it is inserted into the edit, or how.

I HAVE read your information on how important it is, and agree to add the information, if you'll just walk me through it. Give me the straight and narrow -- not 10 more pages about how important it is that I do it.

HOW do I write up the image upload so that it includes the copyright tag? Where does it go in relation to the existing image upload line?

Does it look like this? {{copyright tag|Image:file name... etc.

I am working on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_of_the_Confederacy

• I've gone ahead and added a {{PD-US}} tag for the image published before 1923. If it was a work of the American government, {{PD-USgov}} would be a better work, I don't know that it is. If the photographer died before 1907, {{PD-Old}} would be even better. WilyD 13:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Since it's an image of the Confederate government, and not of the US government, the US tags wouldn't be correct. PD-Old sounds best. Corvus cornix 23:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Linking to pages in other languages ?

Looking through the DNA database related page on en.wikipedia, I came across a redlink for FNAEG, which is the French DNA database. I was going to create a new page for this, but then discovered one already exists on fr.wikipedia.org (but in French). If I created one in en.wikipedia.org, this would seem to be a duplication of existing data - so is there a policy for/against creating new pages when they already exist on Wikipedia, but in other languages ? CultureDrone 13:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

It's encouraged to have articles on notable topics in many languages and to link between them. Many articles have a box called "in other languages" to the left. See Help:Interlanguage links. Articles can be translated between languages in Wikipedia (allowed by the GFDL license used in Wikipedia), but they can also be developed independently. See Wikipedia:French Collaboration Project for the possibility of getting help to translate fr:FNAEG. PrimeHunter 14:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Could someone more experienced than me have a look at some vandalism (moved pages to silly titles) perpetrated by user:Emperor Tony X. Liu II. I have tried to revert it but nothing happens. the page is WILLYam Wilberforce. Thanks Brograve 14:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

That'd be vandalsim a la Willy on Wheels. What that infamous user did is he move page to names like Lemon on Wheels... What I do is go it the users contributions, then logs, then I click a revert link that reverts the move. Evilclown93_(talk) 14:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Shri Vidya

I have uploaded one article titling Shri Vidya. I think this has not yet been approved. May I know the reason for rejection please? This is my first contribution . I am still learning the procedure.Lalitasrami 14:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

If you are referring to this edit, then it was in the wrong place. An article should be created at Shri Vidya. See also Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. PrimeHunter 14:51, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

You can also suggest an article for review first at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. PrimeHunter 15:01, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Tierra on Ashley!

I wrote an article about a building, Tierra on Ashley, that was deleted. PLEASE look back at the article and see whether or not it should be deleted. It deserved to be there, and added educational value to Wikipedia. Please message me if there's a problem.

Please see WP:WWMPD and ask User talk:JzG, the admin who deleted the article. Based on his deletion summary, it looks like the article was not suitable for Wikipedia, but I can't comment further without seeing what it said. YechielMan 15:21, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Page deleted

Hi, I create a page "João Branco Núncio", this page was deleted by you, on 16 June, because it wasn't in English, but that was the result of research and I don't have a copy, could you send me the original in English so that I can translate?

Please send a message to User talk:Anthony.bradbury, who deleted the article. Such requests are typically honored. YechielMan 15:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Information about publisher.

Hello!

I'm writing this to inform you that Chuang Yi Publishing : www.chuangyi.com.sg

Does not publish hentai as it was stated in the definition. One of the banned forum members who was removed for stalking and flaming a member there apparently has now has turned to wikipedia to vandalise its contents (albet covertly). So far, there have been changes made in the wiki site about CY including some that directly attacks a member of the forum (and deleted by our own forum members)

But because this is beyond the moderators of the forum to ban a member from Wiki, if we are able to provide evidence as well as the person's IP address, could wiki look to do something about it?

your help on this is appreciated!

Cheers.

Please copy this message to Talk:Chuang Yi. It's hard for me to see exactly what's going on here. Generally we don't judge editors for what they do off-wiki, but we will stop them if they insert false information or otherwise disrupt the wiki. Please follow up if you need further advice. YechielMan 15:26, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Ghana

What is your question? If you want to know about Ghana, click here. Stwalkerster talk 16:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

wikitable date sortability not working

At WP:FLC List of Chicago Landmarks was at first suggested to be converted from wikitable to wikitable sortable. However, we discovered that date sortability only works with YYYY-MM-DD or YYYYMMDD formats. Where do I make the suggestion that the date sorting logic be improved to make it possible to sort a broad spectrum of date formats including the standard [[Month DD]] [[YYYY]] format. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 16:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

See the instructions for feature requests at the top of WP:VPT, namely to use Bugzilla. --Teratornis 16:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

And see some discussions on Help talk:Sorting about feature requests, for example Help talk:Sorting#Numeric sorting doesn't work. --Teratornis 16:45, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

It seems that this has already been reported to Bugzilla. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 06:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Ref./Footnote format for Great Red Spot?

The Great Red Spot article is coming to have a mix of literary references and journal citations. The former is being referenced via a brief footnote; the later through the cite journal template. Is this the recommended approach for mixed citations? Should I be placing the journal references into the "References" section and then just use a brief footnote for the citation? Or perhaps it's better to just scrap this approach and use Harvard referencing? The Wikipedia:Citing sources page doesn't seem completely clear on this issue. But I'd like this page to be able to pass WP:GA, so a recommended approach would be appreciated. Thank you! — RJH (talk) 16:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

It seems responses are slow in coming for this question, perhaps because none of the current batch of Help desk volunteers have specific knowledge. So I will throw in some generic knowledge. For style questions not decided by a site-wide guideline or policy page, check the relevant WikiProject(s) to see if they cover the particulars for articles of a given type. Check Talk:Great Red Spot to identify the WikiProject overseeing the article; it is: Wikipedia:WikiProject Solar System. That WikiProject page is pretty well-organized (i.e., someone must have read WP:PROJGUIDE), so it has a list of good articles. I suggest examining all the good articles in that list, and see what referencing systems they use. If that doesn't reveal a consistent style, check the featured articles. You might also read all the discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Solar System and ask your question there if it wasn't answered already. --Teratornis 19:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't think the WikiProj. would be too helpful in that regard, but I'll try checking through some more GA/FA articles for similar instances....

...and it looks like History of Puerto Rico uses something similar. I'll just use that as my example. — RJH (talk) 20:26, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

How do you stop a spammer from placeing advertising links in an article? DJREJECTED keeps spamming an article

DJREJECTED is a spammer, and I need to know how to get him stopped.

Thanks

I'm confused. DJREJECTED himself just reported two IPs for exactly that reason at WP:AIV. Anyway, the mods will sort it out. YechielMan 17:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

This is User:USALAND and seems a sock puppet of User:76.97.227.152, known for spamming and vandalising Wikipedia. I wouldn't take this too seriously. Freestyle 17:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey I appreciate you adding this...because I know I'm not spamming. I was thinking he was the same guy from before, he just got himself a username and is tired of people reverting his spam, so he is "taking control" of the article. --DJREJECTED 01:32, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

t.s. elliot

Where can I fint "The Second Coming" by T.S Eliot?

We only have the article The Second Coming (poem) by William Butler Yeats. Freestyle 18:12, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Other meanings on WILCO

I would offer that in addition to the Band name, there is another meaning for the term WILCO. WILCO is one of the "pro" words in the military radio operations and procedures that abbreviates the phrase, "Will Comply." The term WILCO is generally provided when a person talking on the radio will accomplish what is being asked or directed, as in "Will do."

There is a link at the top of the band's article which leads to the disambiguation page. If you believe that one should be lead to the disambiguation page rather that the band's page when searching for WILCO, you should request a move. LaraLove^T/_C 21:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Questions regarding a WIKI posting about our company

Is there any way to find out who is updating this page in wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSLS We have concerns about this as some of the information is of an internal nature. I have been asked to find out what I can about the author(s). Please let me know what you can. Thanks.

<---Email removed--->

jmangone Jmangone 18:21, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

If you click on the history tab at the top of the page, you can view the article's history and see which IP addresses and users have edited the page. –Dream out loud (talk) 18:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Of course, if someone is editing using a company computer, it's possible that the IP address is shared by all the computers in the building and you'd find out practically nothing that way. However, if information in the article is internal, and hence not verifiable by anyone outside the company via references to reliable sources, you could definitely remove that information from the article. Confusing Manifestation 22:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Addin Fair Use Rationale to Existing Image

I originally uploaded Image:MagellanChokeRingAndCover.jpg and Image:TrimbleChokeRingAntenna.jpg for use in Choke ring antenna. They were removed because I did not have a fair-use exemption claim. Now, they are about to be deleted entirely because they're orphaned.

I would like to:

1. Add a fair use claim to the pictures. I need help in knowing what mechanical steps (i.e. add template XYZ to the picture with these fields) to take.
2. Would like to ask how to phrase the claim.

The pictures have been used in catalog sections of the respective company websites and have been freely reproduced in articles of trade magazines. They are used to promote the products and I feel that using one in the article would be fair use. When I uploaded the picture, though, there was nothing about photos promoting nonmedia products, just movies, albums, etc.

Can someone help me here? I have a diagram from a patent, but I think the article would be greatly enhanced with a photo showing how the product is actually fielded.

Thanks

--KNHaw ^(talk) 18:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Your images have templates claiming they are logos, but they are not. The images you have uploaded are copyrighted and will be deleted as there is no acceptable fair use rationale. They are products for which free images could be obtained by anyone with a camera and access to the product. LaraLove^T/_C 21:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

OK. I'll put up speedy deletion notes on the images. --KNHaw ^(talk) 22:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

SVG image problems

I uploaded Image:Wheelchair.svg to Commons yesterday, which is transcluded in the {{access icon}} template. The template appeared fine at the time on the Mac on which I uploaded it, but later when I checked the template on two Windows-based systems, the image is invisible, however the link can still be clicked. When viewed at normal resolution, the image is visible – – but it disappears (on this computer) when specific sizes are attached to the image tag. It appears when it is set to display at 25px, but I tried other sizes up to 100px and it would not display. This image is used in a template which is in hundreds of articles, so it is important that this gets fixed. Thanks. –Dream out loud (talk) 18:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Did you make your image with Adobe Illustrator? If so, I do know that this is a common problem for .svg images made with this application. I don't know the exact details though. In some cases reuploading the images helps (I don't know why this helps though). I hope someone else can tell you more about this. Freestyle 20:08, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

lower case account name

I just set up a new account and want my user name to match my email address using all lower case but after I entered it with all lower case letters, it save it with the first letter in upper case — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mary.breakstone (talk • contribs)

Can that be changed?

Unfortunately, due to technical restrictions, the first letter of all pages (including your userpage, and hence your username) must be capitalised. But there is a workaround, which I also use, as you can see: you can make your name lowercase on your signature (in talk pages etc.), which you get by putting four tildes (i.e. "'''~~~~'''". You should put your signature after any comments you make. To do this, go to your preferences (link in the top right hand corner of the screen), and in the 'signature' box, paste "[[User:Mary.breakstone|mary.breakstone]]" (without quotation marks); and tick the 'Raw signature' button. If you have any questions on this, please ask me on my talk page. -- simxp (talk) 19:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

You might also be able to get your user page to display your username in all lowercase; see: Wikipedia:Technical FAQ#Lower-case first letters in titles; however, I have not tried that so I don't know if it works. --Teratornis 19:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it does. I think the correct template is {{lowercase-user}}. There's also a Category:Wikipedians with usernames with lowercase initial letters you can add to your page. --tjstrf talk 19:26, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Project Approval...

Dear Wikipedia Helpdesk:

I'm a new user of Wikipedia, and have just kicked off what will be a very taxing project, the Confederate States National "War of Northern Aggression" History Project, this project will no doubt consume countless months of my time and energy to complete.

My goal is to eliminate the Wiki conflict between Confederate and Unionist historians and citizens there of over the historical account of the American Civil War. You see the so called American Civil War, is a very controversial topic because its basically all relative and the version of history one follows depends on where you live and where your family comes from. For example, I'm a second generation Floridian and what I have learned of the conflict is way different then what people in lets say Vermont or New York have learned, and I can assure you that very little of Confederate War History is redundant that what the Federals claim occurred.

My ultimate goal is to create a Dixie-pedia, which when complete will be the Wikipedia / Free Encyclopedia for the Confederate people.

i have seen other groups create there own Pedia's, how should I start my own for the Confederacy?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Greyfox-csa (talk • contribs) 15:45, June 21, 2007 (UTC)

If you want to conduct your own MediaWiki installation, buy a server, and start a Confederapedia or whatever to present your version of the civil war account, more power to you. (If so, please see mediawiki.org) However, I don't believe that starting a WikiProject of this type on the English Wikipedia would work, because we historically do not allow WikiProjects which exist to support a particular point of view about a subject, and they are rather invariably deleted. --tjstrf talk 19:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, just a friendly reminder to sign your name after your comments by using 4 tildes "~" x 4 Thanks, Kevinwong913 ^{Speak out loud!} 20:27, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

If you want to start your own wiki, search the Help desk for: start your own wiki (this sort of question comes up routinely), and see Wiki Science/How to start a wiki. If you do decide to start your own wiki by installing MediaWiki on your own Web server, you will definitely put the "countless" into "countless months." Starting your own wiki is at least an order of magnitude harder than editing on someone else's already-viable wiki. See the MediaWiki Handbook for details. Unless you are happy to have a very plain wiki, you will need to figure out how to copy templates and other features from Wikipedia to your own wiki, to give it the nice appearance and organization you see on Wikipedia. But the biggest obstacle to making your own wiki work is the need to establish a community of users who know what they are doing, and who agree with the project's goals. The Wikipedia community is what really makes Wikipedia special. Imagine, for example, trying to answer all the new users' questions on your own wiki the way we are answering yours right now. We can answer questions because thousands of dedicated users before us have written almost all the answers down in extensive manuals which we can now easily search. This is the largely unseen infrastructure that makes Wikipedia function. Are you ready to take on the immense chore of building a similar infrastructure for your own wiki, and training your own community of users? --Teratornis 03:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Trail of tears error

I am a choctaw Indian from Oklahoma. Your description of the trail of tears is innacurate. The Cherokee were not the first to walk the trail of tears nor were they the first to use the term "trail of tears as the site implies. The Choctaw were the first tribe to be massivley relocated during removal, a choctaw chief said when asked about his journey "It has been a trail of tears and death" The cherokee were relocated after the Choctaw and are often associated with the trail because that is the tribe that non native people Identify themselves with. Choctaw, Seminol, cherokee, Chickasaw, and Muskogee Creek tribes NOT JUST THE CHEROKEE. Ant site that states that the trail of tears is specifically cherokees first, only or that cherokees Coined the term is inaccurate.

here are some sites: http://www.thebicyclingguitarist.net/studies/trailoftears.htm

http://www.nationaltota.org/

http://www.cts.bia.edu/trail_of_tears/index.htm

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~mboucher/mikebouchweb/choctaw/trtears.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.4.216.115 (talk) 16:40, June 21, 2007 (UTC)

I've copied this discussion to the article talk page. LaraLove^T/_C 20:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to participate in improving the Trail of Tears article directly by discussing changes on its Talk page. Jim Dunning | talk 21:09, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Universities

Hello, how do I impose the Universities template <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Universities> onto the existing page about Thayer School of Engineering at Dartmouth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thayer_School_of_Engineering

ps How do I sign my name using 4 ~s? I don't know exactly what that means.....

See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Universities#Templates. Also, to sign your post, simply type out four tildes (~) in a row and it will result in your signature. LaraLove^T/_C 21:02, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Unable to edit

I placed a link tag around and term in an article listed below, but I did it incorrectly and want to correct it. I know how to correct it but now I don't see the 'edit' option at the top of the article. Can you help with this or let me know why there would not be a edit option. Thanks for any help. 3jorn 20:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

What article is it? LaraLove^T/_C 21:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

If the article is not protected then you can click the "edit this page" tab at the top to edit the whole article. Or click edit on an arbitrary section and replace the end of the URL with section=0 to only edit the lead. PrimeHunter 21:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) :: Is it Object hyperlinking? If so, which link were you working with: Physical world hyperlinks or Buildhardlink.com or OracleJane? If something else, let us know. By the way, the [http://www.OracleJane.com/ OracleJane] link could be considered spam. Jim Dunning | talk 21:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

oops, here is the title page: hardlink. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardlink_%28homonymy%29 I agree, the oraclejane page is almost blank and does not show the reader anything about how to use that model and I will delete it. The link I wanted to fix was actually Kaywa reader on the hardlink page above. Is that spam to use that company's name in that way. If so I will just delete it rather than fix it. I have no connection with them at all, this is done for a class I have.

I fixed the link, although I think it may be considered spam. The entire sentence may be subsequently removed. LaraLove^T/_C 21:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Great. thanks for your help.

Can you make a new warning template?

Or do you have to be an admin? Cheers, JetLover (Talk) (Sandbox) 21:04, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

<whacking you upside the head with a goofy smile> No, silly rabbit, you don't have to be an admin. Didn't somebody ever tell you that adminship is no big deal? :)

Seriously, you can create any user warning template that you wish. You should leave a note on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject user warnings to coordinate with other users interested in such things. YechielMan 21:27, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Check out Template namespace, Template and Template messages for more information. If you cannot find the template you need, you can request it on Requested templates, or contact a user who has identified themselves as an adept template coder. Good luck! Jim Dunning | talk 21:34, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Cheers, JetLover (Talk) (Sandbox) 22:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

how to make an artical

how do i create an article?LukeMarrone 21:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Look at Contributing to Wikipedia for help on this (there's a section on creating articles there, but review the whole page). Have fun! Jim Dunning | talk 21:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

{edit conflict)

Type what you want to be the name of the article into the search bar. If there is not already an article, there will be a create this page link. Click that and start writing!

See also WP:IA#Uncreated_articles and WP:MOS. LaraLove^T/_C 21:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

When to use bold font (besides article title)

When in an article should bold font be used (other than when referring to the article title)? Should it be used at all in an article for general emphasis? If so, are there any limitations on how much bold should be in an article? Is there any formatting guideline to fall back on with disputes on this matter? Patiwat 22:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I think you are looking for this. ssepp^(talk) 22:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

After logging out I can't log back in - I'm a new user with a confirmation in my e-mail in box.

I created a user name and password, then got logged in automatically, then logged out to re log in and create an autofill record and the password and name don't work! This has happened before. Why do I consistantly have this problem when I register for new sites? I must be doing something wrong.

Hmm, are you aware that the user name and password are case sensitive? That is, whether a letter is uppercase or lowercase matters. ssepp^(talk) 22:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Citing a legal document

If you want to cite a court document as a source, how do you do that? Please answer on my talk page. Rhythmnation2004 23:02, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk. --Haemo 23:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

National Electric Code

Sorry ... someone has edited the above referenced page with some sexually suggestive material. You will want to change this as soon as possible.64.163.126.146 23:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

It's fixed now -- you can also repair vandalism by clicking "history" and selecting the first good version to revert to by clicking "edit" on it, then saving the page. --Haemo 23:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

pictures

how can i put pictures in my artical?— Preceding unsigned comment added by LukeMarrone (talk • contribs) 23:22, June 21, 2007 (UTC)

Assuming the picture is on the server already, you simply enter [[Image:Example.jpg]] and the image will be displayed on the page like the one at right.

If the image is not yet on the server, then you will need to upload it first, either from Wikipedia:Upload (best for new users) or Special:Upload (more advanced). --tjstrf talk 23:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

However, make sure that they are under a free license, or qualify as a fair use. --Haemo 23:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

You can insert any pictures uploaded to Wikipedia into an article. So you'll either have to identify pictures already uploaded to Wikipedia or upload them yourself. Review Uploading images to see how to do this (and pay special attention to "Determine image copyright status" on that page, since that's where a lot of Wikipedians run into difficulties). Once you have images you want, then you can insert them into the article while you're editing it. Look over Images to see how to do this. Jim Dunning | talk 23:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

June 21

skarangermuffintop

My friend and i created a page yesterday, and it was deleted over night, however when I searched in deleted logs, it could not be found. I have re-posted the page, and want to ensure it is not deleted again. It was deleted almost instantly, only i just found out it is due to notability. I have seen a great deal of fraternities listed on wikipedia, and I would like to know the best way to prove notability for ours, so that the page can continue to exist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skarangermuffintop (talk • contribs)

Note: The article is Sigma Kappa Alpha and Skarangermuffintop also asked on editor talk pages with responses on User talk:Skarangermuffintop. PrimeHunter 00:52, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Translating specific words

Is there a page/site in Wikipedia whereby I can get a word translated from German or Italian into English? 71.177.31.122 00:54, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Nope, Wikipedia is not a translation service. If you are looking for the smae article in another language, there is a box on the lower left that will link to a different language Wikipedia. Google has a translation service under the link "language tools" that can make a rough translation if you need to translate specific words. --_Hdt83 ^Chat 00:57, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, not really, though you can fake it pretty well by following the interlingual links at the bottom left of the page if you want the foreign name for an English article's concept. Wiktionary, however, does compile word translations, so you can check there. (Also try searching the foreign language's wiktionary, they sometimes will have the English translation listed on their pages even if en.wiktionary doesn't have the crosslink.) --tjstrf talk 01:05, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

can't upload image

I uploaded an image and then tried to insert it into an article without success. Can you tell me what I did wrong? I followed your instructions above but couldn't make it. The article is "Anggun" in Spanish. Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.170.235.246 (talk • contribs).

You cannot include an English Wikipedia image (Image:Luminescence.jpg, is this the one?) onto a Spanish Wikipedia article (all images are local to that language Wikipedia unless you host it on the Wikipedia Commons - and that image will not qualify). Upload it to the Spanish Wikipedia - but be aware that the Spanish Wikipedia may have different guidelines.

While you are at it, please provide a fair-use rationale (in Spanish) on the image on the Spanish Wikipedia upload, and you might want to put the caption in Spanish, too. x42bn6 Talk Mess 01:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Transportation in Wyoming Territory 1859 - 1909 ( or words similar)

Yes, I didn't read all the rules - I just started writing on the topic to get it secured - approved and let you know I would like to contribute to the hisotry of Wyoming's growth during the the Stage Coach Days of days of George Lathrop(e).

Advice on how to access my entry so I can pick upon it later.

Fred— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fred E. Vanosdall (talk • contribs) 01:33, June 22, 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, this was your first edit with your username. If you created the article before you made this username, it will be difficult to find. If you created it after that, it appears the article was never actually saved. -- Kesh 02:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Your above edit was made 16 minutes after creating the account, so I guess you made the missing edit before having an account. You could try this: Make an edit without logging in to your account and while using the same Internet connection as when you made the missing edit. Then click "history" on the edited page, and click on the IP number at your edit. If you have a static IP number and the page you edited has not been deleted, then you should see the edit in the IP contributions. Also try to click "Talk" at your IP number. If the page was deleted then somebody may have left a message on the talk page. PrimeHunter 03:18, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Signature?

Hi, I've been admiring everyone's colorful signatures and made one for myself here.[29] But when I go to my preferences and paste it into the signature box and check the raw signature box I get that error message to check the code. And if I don't check the raw signature box it saves it but then when I sign the four tildes I get that same code back (or part of it). I see a few people have asked about this lately and I looked at the answers, but I still can't figure it out. What am I doing wrong?CindyBo 01:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

You aren't going to like my answer, but something that I found seems to be a problem is when you have font tags in a link, when I put them around the link to my page it worked. (Apparently this is on a problem in signatures.) I'll keep looking though. Redian (Talk) 02:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I thought it was just me missing a backslash or something. I'll play around with it.CindyBo 03:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Got it. I think I was making the code too long, but I don't know if that was the problem, I shortenened it and made it simpler and it worked so...CindyBo^talk 04:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes. I believe the length of your signature would be the problem. I once logged in just to find out that my signature had been reverted back to its original form. There was a message stating, "your signature is too long. It must be 255 characters or less". So...that would be it. Cheers!!! -Zacharycrimsonwolf 11:42, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

New User Log

Where can I find the rolling log of new user names? 203.21.40.253 02:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Special:Log/newusers -SpuriousQ (talk) 02:06, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Tegan and sara

I want to add a picture to the tegan and sara page how do i do that

To add a picture to a page, you will need to upload it first. Then check out WP:IMAGE for information on how to insert it in the article. --_Hdt83 ^Chat 02:11, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

talk of vandalism on my IP address 'user talk' page.

Hello,

I am very confused about why i have all these vandalism reports suddenly on my user page. Even dating back to 2005. There were reports for even editing a 'laser printer' article and a 'centre, france' article which i have never been on before, among others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:150.101.16.150&redirect=no

that is the URL for the page with the reports.

Sorry if this has been a stupid question... i don't use Wikipedia often and am very unfamiliar with it!

thankyou very much,

150.101.16.150 02:53, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

You probably have a dynamic IP or shared IP -- it moves around, so it could be other people doing this. I suggest making a user account to prevent these problems. --Haemo 02:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

See WP:ACCOUNT. --Teratornis 02:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, in my opinion this is not a stupid question. You are understandably confused as a result of Wikipedia's longstanding but strange policy to allow unregistered users to edit articles. The fact that many different users can edit using the same IP address predictably leads to this kind of confusion. Vandals seem far more likely to vandalize from IP addresses than from registered accounts, so over time lots of user talk pages for IP addresses are going to accumulate those kinds of warnings to confuse the next visitor who shares an IP address previously used by vandals. Perhaps Wikipedia should customize its presentation of user talk pages for IP addresses to explain how they work to casual users who are unlikely to understand the current implementation. If nothing else, some sort of link to a page that explains what's going on wouldn't hurt. OK, I actually tried scrolling to the bottom of such a talk page and I see that a box with some explanation is down there. Maybe it should also be at the top of the page. --Teratornis 03:05, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

This is surely the result of an IP address which other editors have used. See Special:Contributions/150.101.16.150 for all edits by that IP address. Some of them are clearly vandalism. Whether to disallow anonymous edits is often discussed and seems unlikely to happen. See for example m:Foundation issues, WP:PEREN#Prohibit anonymous users from editing, WP:VPE#Abolish anonymous users. PrimeHunter 03:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Deleted article

Hi. I recently posted a Wikipedia article on a website that I run. It is a music-related website that is the most popular website in its musical niche. The article was deleted as a "blatant advertisement." The article was actually objective in tone and included outside references for statements made. It was created not for advertisement (to be honest, it doesn't need the advertisement on Wikipedia -- that's not going to increase interest in the website), but for two reasons:

1. The site is very popular and there are often questions we receive as to its origins, and this seemed to be a proper venue for that. 2. There was some concern we had that others may create a Wikipedia page of incorrect information about the website, and this appeared to be a way to make sure that accurate information got out there.

Was our rationale inappropriate for creating this page or is this a legitimate use of Wikipedia?

• Read WP:WEB and WP:COI. —Dark•Shikari^[T] 04:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

The article should stay if it satisfies certain notability requirements. You're right in that it should be objective and have verifiable references. Although, I should also point out Wikipedia's policies on conflicts of interest and autobiographies. I realize that it's not a biographical article that you were writing but I think you'll get my point. Dismas|^(talk) 04:33, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

How do you create a Wikipedia spin-off site? Such as Lostpedia ...

Run the MediaWiki application on a server. Sancho 04:10, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

See b:Wiki Science/How to start a Wiki and search the Help desk for: start own wiki. Be aware that installing your own MediaWiki wiki is a big job, requiring system administrator skills and knowledge of Web servers. You also need to know a lot about editing, templates, and tons of other things, or else you will need some very knowledgeable MediaWiki users to help you. However, even though it is difficult, everything you need to know is in the extensive manuals (start with m:Help:Contents), so it's just a matter of lots of RTFM, trial and error, time, and some money for the hardware and Internet connection. If you are smart and very determined, you will probably succeed. To ask questions specifically about MediaWiki administration, please use mw:Project:Support desk. --Teratornis 15:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I should also mention that you can install MediaWiki on your personal computer and practice editing and administering it as your personal wiki. See: mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick. I have installed MediaWiki under XAMPP and it runs without a problem, even on old Windows 98 computers. Running MediaWiki "on a stick" is an accessible way to learn what you are doing before you try to run it on a Web server. --Teratornis 15:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

References question

Recently a user put a references tag on the Celebrities section of the Playboy article. Since the magazine is a published work, doesn't it sort of count for its own reference? Or would each name in that section need a reference other than the magazine itself, for instance an article in People or Sports Illustrated, that discusses the photospread? Dismas|^(talk) 04:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

That's a silly tag use there -- the magazine issues give are clear references. I'd just remove it. --Haemo 05:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Cannot join discussion

I am new here and I noticed that I cannot post anything on certain discussion boards (eg. Naruto the Movie 3). (LatiRider 05:06, 22 June 2007 (UTC))

Looks like you did to me. Try refreshing - it could just be an old version caught in your cache. --Haemo 05:12, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Disclamer Addition

I just reasently added a Disclamer to my User Page, as not to get visitors confused. Should I remove it? (LatiRider 06:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC))

The disclaimer confuses me. I would remove it. LaraLove^T/_C 06:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

How can I set up a poll on the page?

Hi,

I just got few questions. What do I have to do if I want to set up a poll on the page to especially vote for the modification of a certain term? would there be a specific guidelline or criteria for a thing such as a designated period for the poll, and how can the outcome of a poll be used to decide(Do 51% pros mean the final decision to be adopted to change the term ultimately?). Finally, I'd like to know how I can establish the poll on the page?

Jay Econ1242 06:15, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not operate on polling, therefore there is no software in place to manage a poll. What you should be doing is talking with people on the article's Talk page to get a consensus of what should be done. Let the conversation run its course and, when it seems there is agreement, the changes can be made (or not) based on that consensus. -- Kesh 06:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Straw_polls may be a helpful resource for you. LaraLove^T/_C 06:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflicht) As for sysopping, see WP:RFA. As for polling; please don't do it. Polls are not used, as Wikipedia is all about consensus through discussions, rather than a majority vote. Do the changes you want to an article, if someone has objections you use the talkpage to come up with something which is ok for all participants. Polling are only used in a few circumstances, such as when we are finding new members for the arbitration committee or electing new members for the Wikimedia board. Jimbo have on several occasions stopped attempts to use polls on other issues, so this is something that should be avoided as much as possible. Bjelleklang - talk Bug Me 06:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Cannot Edit

I have noticed on some pages (such as Gamefaqs) that it says that you cannot edit it until (insert date here) why is that? (LatiRider 06:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC))

See Wikipedia:Protection policy. Basically, the page has been vandalized so heavily, it has been protected from edits. Eventually, the protection will be lifted in the hopes that vandals have moved on elsewhere, and normal editing can resume. -- Kesh 06:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict}:Hi, LatiRider. Thanks for posting your question. The template you are referring to explains that the page is being protected due to vandalism. Established registered users can make edit, but those who are unregistered or recently registered cannot. Click the links within the template for further information. LaraLove^T/_C 06:26, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Login password problem

Resolved

My username is hemantusa - having forgotten my password I requested a new password which was mailed to my registered email address. When I tried to use the password which was emailed to me I am unable to log in. Please help. please reply to my registered email address - thanks.

Sorry - the problem has been resolved - the system just needed some time before the emailed temporary password could be used

Emoticons

Are Emoticons prohibited in the discussion boards? (LatiRider 06:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC))

Emoticons are allowed (see also Wikipedia:Emoticons). Freestyle 07:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

How can i place the image in the article

I recently become a user of wikipedia. I have written a article and uploaded the image but cant place it in the text.. please help. When will the article be approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonisrahman (talk • contribs)

See our image directions for some help. --Haemo 08:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

As for your second question, we don't approve articles after their creation, if that is what you mean, they go 'live' right away. Many new articles do get deleted, however, so that is a kind of delayed approval system. ssepp^(talk) 10:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted? for more information about how deletion works. You should monitor your new article every day for a while to see if anyone tags it for deletion. If you have any questions about that, you can ask here. --Teratornis 15:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I see you have a copyright problem with the Image:Bikky_khosla1.jpg you uploaded. On Wikipedia we cannot just scan images from copyrighted publications and upload them here. --Teratornis 15:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

how do you rename an article

On Wikipedia i have seen an article on Jo Cornish who got married recently and i went to the editing page for that article to change her name to Jo Palmer, which is already in the rest of the article, but it seems impossible to rename the title; how can it be done? 203.57.214.178 10:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Response on the user's talk page – –Sebi ~ 10:15, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

There's no need to change the title of this article. I've left a note on the talk page as well. Peacent 10:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

how can we post teh description of our NGO?

Hello,

I want to ask you something. We are a NGO from Romania and we want to add the description of our organization on Wikipedia site. How can be done this thing? Thank you.

Hello. If you'd like to an article about your NGO, put a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles. Or you can learn how to create a new article at Help:Starting a new article. Also, check out: Wikipedia:Your first article. And you can sign your messages by typing ~~~~! Try it, and have a nice day! -Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:51, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

You might want to start by writing about your NGO on the Romanian Wikipedia. The English Wikipedia (the one you are viewing now) deletes thousands of new articles which do not comply with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Experience shows many new users have trouble grasping these policies and guidelines well enough to create new articles that "stick." While I have no experience with the Romanian Wikipedia, I'd guess because it is smaller than the English Wikipedia, and probably more focused on topics relating to Romania, the editors there might be more forgiving and likely to help you develop your article to comply with policies and guidelines rather than simply deleting it as the overtaxed administrators on the English Wikipedia often have to do (because there isn't enough available skilled labor to repair the thousands of non-compliant articles started by new users every day). Once your article is in encyclopedic shape on the Romanian Wikipedia, you could translate it to English and add it here. --Teratornis 15:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Re:Sources

Hi. How do you exactly cite your source? I've read the page but i don't really understand. Where are you supposed to put it? And if I take information from a particular book, wouldn't that be violating their copyright? -Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

• Information is not copyrightable. A phrase can be, long passages of text are, but a simple fact or opinion is not. Look at Template:cite, use <ref> The Reference </ref> to include a reference. Cheers, WilyD 14:18, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Pages such as WP:CITE and WP:CITET can be hard to understand by themselves. Fortunately on Wikipedia we also have 6,992,876 articles to study as examples, although usually it's best to study just the featured articles and good articles to see what their wikitext looks like. Many articles on Wikipedia only partially comply with our policies and guidelines, whereas the featured articles are Wikipedia's best work. So just start perusing the featured articles until you find one that uses a referencing style you like. Click the edit link and view the article's wikitext to see how it works. The ability to learn from examples and apply similar techniques to one's own work is pretty much the foundation of everything we do here. It is possible to only read the manuals and edit from a blank page, but many people find it easier to copy an example and edit it into what they want. I believe Jerry Pournelle wrote "You can never have too many examples" so he probably likes the large number we have here. --Teratornis 15:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

• Okay. Thanks all. -Zacharycrimsonwolf 15:12, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Canibis

Canibis I am having a discussion on the amount of time it takes for T H C, in canibis to leave a persons body. I say it takes 30 to 40 days, if a person is a daily user,or more, and 7 to 10 days, if a once a week user. Am I dead wrong, or right on target.

Thank You, Stan

You could start by reading Pharmacokinetics and following links therefrom. Also, the answer would depend on what you mean by "leave." Perhaps you mean "drop to a concentration undetectable with currently available drug-testing technology." In any case, I recommend that you heed the advice of counselor Mackey from South Park and "don't smoke marijuana, because marijuana is bad, m'kay?" --Teratornis 14:52, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

creating tabs

I am currently creating (actually dreaming to create) a tabbed page such as this found in Wikipedia Tutorial. Unfortunately, i can't create one because the codes are quite complicated for me. I am not a computer scientist but a biochemist. Simply copy-pasting the codes is still complicated for me. Is there a simpler way to create tabs? Or better, and if possible, kindly send me a ready made tabbed page containing 4 tabs with headings - Aim, Theory, Practice, References. Or whatever that works best and simplest for Wiki- and computer-neophytes. Thanks, Enzo

They aren't "tabs". It is just a table with a light blue border and purplish backgrounds on the cells. Look at Help:Table for info on making tables. -- _(¿ʇɐɥʍ) ʍɐuıɐʞ 14:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Printing Wikepedia pages

I have an inquiry to you in regards to printing of Wikipedia pages.
Point in case: Internal combustion engine
This page does not print correctly - even using the "Printable Page" function, because of a floating table on the page. Is there a way (for me) to fix that or is this a browser problem ? I use I.E. 6.0.

Please help with mapping coordinates

As one example, I found that the train station listed at Charlotte (Amtrak station) has incorrect coordinates. I used the hjl_get_Coor tool for Google Earth to determine that the correct coordinates are really 35°14228.43N, 80°49221.53W which wiki codes out to {{Coor dms|35|14|28.4|N|80|49|21.5|W}}. Good, but I'm having trouble placing these coordinates on the page.

If this were a city I'd just put the code in a sentence like "Northport is located at {{coor dms|40|54|10|N|73|20|39|W|city}}" and the coordinates magically show up in the top right corner of the page. However there are no coor references on the page for me to fix (yet the coordinates are showing up in the top right corner anyway). It appears that those coordinates are coming from the Maps code in the external links section: {{Geolinks-US-buildingscale|35.24243|-80.823627}}.

First, I'm unfamiliar with the Geolinks-US-buildingscale tag. What's the deal with multiple geographic location tags? Can I use the {{coor}} template as specified here? Can both tags co-exist on the same page? What happens if coor coordinates don't exactly match the location of the Geolinks location. Second, my coordinates are not the same format as those displayed in the Geolinks-US-buildingscale tag and they do not appear to be compatible so I can't plug my coordinates into that other template.

What to do?

Thanks --Fife Club 16:12, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Mario Procaccino Time Cover

It's beautiful, there are plenty of other time covers all over the place How do I get it in the article?Ericl 16:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

You mean the cover of Time magazine? That is copyrighted. It shouldn't be used in Wikipedia. -- _(¿ʇɐɥʍ) ʍɐuıɐʞ 16:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)