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Daily Mail
typewebsite
shortcutWP:DAILYMAIL, WP:RSPDM
statusd
deprecatedy
blacklistedno
recency2024
Domain dailymail.co.uk
in source code

external links in articles

spamcheck tool
RFC
link Rfc
date2020
Daily Mail is a source that has been repeatedly discussed at the Reliable sources noticeboard. This page collects and links information about previous discussions and current consensus, and summarizes it here for convenience.

Summary

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In the 2017 RfC, the Daily Mail was the first source to be deprecated on Wikipedia, and the decision was challenged and reaffirmed in the 2019 RfC. There is consensus that the Daily Mail (including its online version, MailOnline) is generally unreliable, and its use as a reference is generally prohibited, especially when other sources exist that are more reliable. As a result, the Daily Mail should not be used for determining notability, nor should it be used as a source in articles. The Daily Mail has a "reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism, and flat-out fabrication". The Daily Mail may be used in rare cases in an about-self fashion. Some editors regard the Daily Mail as reliable historically, so old articles may be used in a historical context. (Note that dailymail.co.uk is not trustworthy as a source of past content that was printed in the Daily Mail.) The restriction is often incorrectly interpreted as a "ban" on the Daily Mail. The deprecation includes other editions of the UK Daily Mail, such as the Irish and Scottish editions. The UK Daily Mail is not to be confused with other publications named Daily Mail that are unaffiliated with the UK paper. The dailymail.com domain was previously used by the unaffiliated Charleston Daily Mail, and reference links to that publication are still present.

Excerpt

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Excerpt from the lead of Daily Mail:

The Daily Mail is a British daily middle-market tabloid conservative newspaper founded in 1896 and published in London. Its sister paper The Mail on Sunday was launched in 1982, a Scottish edition was launched in 1947, and an Irish edition in 2006. Content from the paper appears on the MailOnline news website, although the website is managed separately and has its own editor.

Discussions

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Find reliability-related discussions about "Daily Mail" in the RSN archives.
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  1. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 2#Daily Mail? (UK)
  2. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 15#Daily Mail
  3. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 23#Is the Daily Mail a reliable source
  4. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 35#Should this particular Daily Mail article be used as a WP:RS?
  5. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 46#Is Daily Mail UK RS?
  6. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 78#Unreliable sources: Daily Mail and Fox News
  7. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 85#Unite Against Fascism and The Times et al
  8. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 96#Daily Mail, Digital Spy, Daily Express, and reliability for Doctor Who
  9. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 102#Daily Mail in race-related matters
  10. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 105#The Daily Mail?
  11. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 106#Time to axe the Daily Mail
  12. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 112#Daily Mail
  13. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 122#Daily Mail
  14. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 134#Is Daily Mail a reliable source for Lord Ahmed's views?
  15. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 151#Daily Mail (UK): use in BLPs
  16. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 163#Reliability of the Daily Mail
  17. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 168#Daily Mail
  18. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 175#Can we clarify when the Daily Mail can be used as a source?
  19. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 184#Irish Daily Mail
  20. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 192#Daily Mail
  21. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 193#The Daily Mail
  22. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 196#Daily Mail as a source for a sexual assault stat
  23. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 201#The Daily Mail: When are we finally going to decide that enough is enough?
  24. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 204#Daily Mail again
  25. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 209#Daily Mail / Mirror use as sources on Battle of Fallujah
  26. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 210#Daily Mail
  27. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 218#Daily Mail
  28. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 221#Material sourced to Daily Mail in "St Paul's Survives"
  29. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 231#The Daily Mail: where does reliability end and censorship begin?
  30. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 240#Edit filter for the Daily Mail
  31. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 241#Daily Mail
  32. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 242#Is it okay to use the Daily Mail as a source for a benign, non-political article?
  33. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 253#Is it OK to use the Daily Mail as a source in the article Eilean (yacht)?
  34. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 254#Proposal to revisit Daily Mail ban
  35. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 257#A question related to the Daily Mail
  36. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 268#The Daily Mail is apparently the sole source for the Kim Darroch memo leaks.
  37. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 278#Does WP:Dailymail apply to the Mail on Sunday
  38. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 280#Daily Mail (sigh, yes, again)
  39. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 283#Daily Mail reliable source or not?
  40. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 289#Daily Mail and RSOPINION
  41. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 290#Use of Daily Mail
  42. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 292#That dreaded Daily Mail
  43. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 298#thisismoney: just Daily Mail reprints?
  44. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 298#Use of extended quotation solely from Daily Mail on Death of Keith Blakelock
  45. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 298#Is it a problem that Wikipedia's own article on the Mail doesn't seem to justify depreciation as a source?
  46. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 311#Clarification: Does Daily Mail RfC apply to the Mail on Sunday?
  47. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 321#Daily Mail part 874
  48. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 334#Daily Mail article for specific claim
  49. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 346#Upcoming magazine article on this noticeboard and The Daily Mail
  50. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 377#Daily Mail and Beergate
  51. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 377#Daily Mail as a semi-primary source
  52. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 382#A Daily Mail interview relayed by The Times
  53. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 450#Is adding a citation of a Daily Mail column by Richard Littlejohn as evidence permissible?
  54. WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 451#Daily Mail comparison

Recency

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2024

Rfcs

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  1. 2017 WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 220#Daily Mail RfC
  2. 2019 WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 255#2nd RfC: The Daily Mail
  3. 2020 WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 299#(Infomercial voice) But Wait! There's still more!! (News about The Daily Mail)

Original table row for comparison

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Perennial sources
Source Status
(legend) 		Discussions Use
List Last Summary
Daily Mail (MailOnline)
WP:DAILYMAILWP:DAILYMAIL 📌
WP:RSPDMWP:RSPDM 📌 		Deprecated Request for comment 2017 Request for comment 2019 Request for comment 2020

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In the 2017 RfC, the Daily Mail was the first source to be deprecated on Wikipedia, and the decision was challenged and reaffirmed in the 2019 RfC. There is consensus that the Daily Mail (including its online version, MailOnline) is generally unreliable, and its use as a reference is generally prohibited, especially when other sources exist that are more reliable. As a result, the Daily Mail should not be used for determining notability, nor should it be used as a source in articles. The Daily Mail has a "reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism, and flat-out fabrication". The Daily Mail may be used in rare cases in an about-self fashion. Some editors regard the Daily Mail as reliable historically, so old articles may be used in a historical context. (Note that dailymail.co.uk is not trustworthy as a source of past content that was printed in the Daily Mail.) The restriction is often incorrectly interpreted as a "ban" on the Daily Mail. The deprecation includes other editions of the UK Daily Mail, such as the Irish and Scottish editions. The UK Daily Mail is not to be confused with other publications named Daily Mail that are unaffiliated with the UK paper. The dailymail.com domain was previously used by the unaffiliated Charleston Daily Mail, and reference links to that publication are still present.
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Notes

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  1. ^ See also these discussions of the Daily Mail: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54
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