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The springbok (Antidorcas marsupialis) is a medium-sized antelope found mainly in the dry areas of southern and southwestern Africa. A slender, long-legged bovid, it reaches 71 to 86 cm (28 to 34 in) at the shoulder and weighs between 27 and 42 kg (60 and 93 lb). Both sexes have a pair of long black horns that curve backwards, a white face, a dark stripe running from the eyes to the mouth, a light-brown coat with a reddish-brown stripe, and a white rump flap. Primarily browsing at dawn and dusk, it can live without drinking water for years, subsisting on succulent vegetation. Breeding peaks in the rainy season, when food is more abundant. A single calf is weaned at nearly six months of age and leaves its mother a few months later. Springbok herds in the Kalahari Desert and the semi-arid Karoo used to migrate in large numbers across the countryside. The springbok is the national animal of South Africa. This male springbok was photographed in Etosha National Park, Namibia.Photograph credit: Yathin S Krishnappa

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reverted edit

after you removed the addition i made to both the andy baldwin and the bachelor page, i added the information again WITH a citation from a source that is very often cited and is what i believe to be a credible source. unless you can convince me that the new york post is not a reliable source, i will continue to add the information if it is deleted. thank you for bringing to my attention the lack of a source being cited. jae

I'm still going to remove the edit. While yes, you did add a source the second time, the information still isn't Wikified. Please add a spoiler tag to the section and remove the warning stuff. The statement "three lucky ladies" is POV. Just...make it sound like an encyclopedia article. You wouldn't see stuff like "had a few drinks the other night and spilled the beans" in an encyclopedia. Word it in a formal tone and then re-add the information. Thank you. --pIrish ^{talk, contribs} 16:27, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just read the article you are getting the information from. You cannot, under any circumstance, copy and paste directly from the source like that. This is a copyright infringement and cannot be included. It will be immediately removed if put back in the article like this again. No exceptions. --pIrish ^{talk, contribs} 16:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Truth

I can't really see what's wrong with my pointing out that the Movie is largely based on ethnic stereotypes, far more than other Kid's Movies. If you can give me a reason why not, I won't revert back the page. SaliereTheFish 22:35, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Easy! It's not sourced. Therefore, it is entirely original research. Find a reliable, notable source that says exactly what you put and it can stay. Until then...it can't. --pIrish ^{talk, contribs} 22:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need a source to condone Racism, surely? I mean, wouldn't the cast list or the film itself count as evidence? SaliereTheFish 22:38, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

YOU are making the assumption that it is based on racism, it's a rather grand assumption at that. I don't particularly think it's all that obvious myself. Some of them are a little far fetched as well (the Asian girl? how is that racist..or even stereotypical?) Unless others have published something that says it is, it can't stay. Sorry, but that's how the policy on original research works. --pIrish ^{talk, contribs} 22:41, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But...it's not an assumption! It's right there! The Hero is American! Th Villains & Idiots are either African-American or British! This isn't an opinion, it's solid fact!

Oh, and the Asian thing: The fact that she gets very little lines, as well as not getting 'partnered' with a male character as do almosta ll the other female leads int he film, contribute to the stereotype of Asian people being Second-Class citizens, as parodied in Goodness Gracious Me! SaliereTheFish 22:45, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not solid fact, not by any stretch of the imagination. Just because something may be obvious to you, doesn't make it fact. It's an assumption that you have come to the conclusion about after having seen the movie. You. Not me. Not everyone else. You. You decided it was obvious, so you decided it was fact. An assumption.

This is similar to something my mom said to me a few months ago. She had recently seen Monster House with my nephew and, since the antagonist was fat, she decided the movie was making fun of fat people. There was no solid basis in this idea or even facts to support it, she just decided that it was so because that's what she saw and it was obvious to her, even if it wasn't to anybody else.

The fact remains that what you included was original research and, without a reliable and notable source to back it up, it cannot be included in the article because it cannot be verified. Period. --pIrish ^{talk, contribs} 23:33, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You mentioned above about using the cast list or the film as a source. Neither of these is an acceptable source because neither of them directly addresses anything to do with racism or stereotypes. Unless, in the movie, Ella screams something like "My step sister is a dumb Brit and my friend is a quiet Asian!" you can't make the connection based on who is in the movie and the roles they are playing. You have to find a reliable secondary source that states this direct connection to verify the information. --pIrish ^{talk, contribs} 00:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help

Thank you for reverting vandalism on my user page. ... discospinster _talk 16:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! --pIrish ^{talk, contribs} 16:32, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I tryed to put a picture of Snorlax in the sandbox. However what I got was the girl from fan service. How did that happen? and who is she? Anubiz 20:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]