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Belarus

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Elena Drobychevskaja

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Elena Drobychevskaja (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable artist. Primary sourced promotion lacking coverage in independent reliable sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:49, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:ARTIST No reliable sourcing in the article. I am not finding any RS with a simple Google search. See source table below --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your second link throws no "security warning" for me. If there is a warning for you (you do not say what kind of warning, nor what tools you are using), will be for the archive service, not the cited website, bcdb.com, which is widely cited on Wikipedia.
The security warning for your 7th site is an expired certificate, and does not preclude its use as a source.
The nwzonline.de page is archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20160306054146/http://www.nwzonline.de/varel/ausstellung-im-caf-hafenblick_a_1,0,611902600.html - but you simply dismiss it as a "dead link".
The cavallo.de page is archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20160617055333/http://www.cavallo.de/ausstellung-rotes-pferd.304497.233219.htm - but you dismiss it as "redirecting to home page".
Why is an "archived defunct directory" discounted?
Since when did we count exhibition listings at a gallery as primary for the artist?
The artfontainebleau.net page is archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20120613220257/http://www.artfontainebleau.net/article-31285597.html - but you dismiss it as "404". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:46, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I should have been more specific when I said the subject fails WP:ARTIST - This artist does not meet WP:NARTIST. She has not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, or won significant critical attention, or been represented within the permanent collections of any notable galleries or museums. I use Firefox with AVG Internet security. I am not going to infect my computer researching the dead /stale links and redirects on this article. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 23:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"I am not going to infect my computer researching the dead /stale links and redirects on this article"
Oddly enough, neither did I; and nor do other editors who use the Wayback Machine. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: From the above, and from discussion on the article talk page, it seems that the sources are nowhere near as problematic as they have been described. At least nine of the sources (by the nom's own figures) are not primary, and several of those that are (such as gallery exhibition listings, and the membership page of an organisation) are acceptable in the context in which they are used. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:38, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:LOTSOFSOURCES. Just having some non primary source does not pass any policy based notability guidelines. ("At least nine of the sources (by the nom's own figures) are not primary" Please don't tell lies about what I wrote). duffbeerforme (talk) 07:54, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    No, it is not "LOTSOFSOURCES". I was addressing your unfounded claim of over-reliance on primary sources, and another editor's bogus assessment of the sources. Seems you're done with AGF here as well as the article's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:50, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    So you lie about what I wrote and then expect me to assume good faith? All your !vote does is say there is some non primary sources. It didn't say any were good. It didn't say the subject passed any notability guideline. What you've done is criticise other good faith participants, so much for your AGF. My claim of over-reliance on primary sources is very well founded. What non primary source backs up more than minor points in the article? duffbeerforme (talk) 00:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I can't find any coverage about her or her work, such as reviews of her exhibitions (I tried to search in French and German too). I don't see that she meets either WP:GNG or WP:ARTIST. The sources in the article are fine to confirm that the exhibitions happened, but don't show that others, apart from the galleries mounting the exhibitions, had anything to say about them. RebeccaGreen (talk) 07:48, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
kunst-und-kultur.de - ad laden interface No Artist posted CV? ✘ No
link throws a security warning ? Unknown
No No No IMDB - non -reliable source ✘ No
No generic home page for artists' group No fails verification - no longer a member? ✘ No
archive.today link throws a security warning ? Unknown
No passing mention in interview of another artist's show ✘ No
link throws a security warning ? Unknown
No Mohr-Villa Freimann No No Mohr-Villa Freimann list for exhibition - primary ✘ No
No local exhibition listing ✘ No
No No No gallery listing - primary ✘ No
No artfoutainbleau gallery No gallery listing - primary ✘ No
No dead link ✘ No
archived defunct directory? ? Unknown
link redirects to home page ? Unknown
No No No event listing - native advertising ✘ No
No No No gallery listing for show ✘ No
No No No listing for exhibtion at a shopping mall ✘ No
No No No user generated content ✘ No
fails verification ? Unknown
No 404 ✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.
Another source analysis
No sources that help with GNG. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:56, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
1. Database listing, primary
2. Database listing, primary
3. imdb, not reliable
4. cv, primary
5. not a reliable source
6. passing mention, no depth of coverage
7. privacy warning. archive sent me to adult site. url implies event listing.
8. Gallery listing, primary.
9. Show announcement, primary
10. "Steffen Werner, 2013". Gallery listing, primary
11. Show announcement, primary
12. Show announcement, primary
13. cv, primary
14. Show announcement, primary
15. Gallery listing, primary.
16. cv, primary
17. Name on a list, no depth of coverage (Looks like pr announcement, primary)
18. cv, primary
19. a shop, primary
20. primary, bio of artist from gallery where she was showing
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 02:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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