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Sponcership

Hi do you offer sponcership to kids that have talent Nickikaiden (talk) 00:28, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

New Junior Driver!

Brando Badoer is confirmed to be the new McLaren development driver in the junior program. He raced in the Italian Formula 4 with Ugo. 77.251.225.251 (talk) 13:01, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Macau

@Thfeeder: The Macau Grand Prix is one single race. It is not a "title." This has been explained and fixed numerous times. Please stop adding it to the page. Thank you. Lazer-kitty (talk) 21:21, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

@Lazer-kitty: I kindly urge you to cut down your condescending tone and edit warring, or external measures could be taken. Terms like "explained" or "fixed" are not appropriate here; we're here to discuss, not impose our views. The Macau Grand Prix is a stand-alone event that's awarded an FIA World Cup title since 2015. User:Thfeeder is not wrong to be adding this. MSport1005 (talk) 15:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@MSport1005: First off, apologize immediately for your insults above. These are completely uncalled for. You are the one who is edit warring, not me, and I have not been condescending at all. If you cannot discuss this without personal attacks then admins will need to be involved. Secondly, if you continue to re-add one single race as a title you will be reported for vandalism. This has been explained numerous times. It is not a title. If you'd like to change the standard for what counts as a title, feel free to discuss it here. You do not own the article and cannot make such decisions unilaterally. Lazer-kitty (talk) 15:54, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

And remember that Wikipedia encourages you to WP:BEBOLD, but if your bold changes are reverted, you are supposed to stop and discuss them. Both of you have utterly failed to do so, instead insisting that you own the page and can decide alone. Again, that's not how this works. And again, stop adding it and let's discuss it here like adults. Lazer-kitty (talk) 15:59, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@Lazer-kitty: There's no personal attacks. I got involved because of your attitude towards another user. I warned you about your tone and you've opted to escalate the situation. "if you continue to re-add one single race as a title you will be reported for vandalism" – this is not a game of threats. You do not WP:OWN the article and you do not impose your views without consensus. I urge you to discuss peacefully. Otherwise an incident report will be issued. MSport1005 (talk) 16:11, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@MSport1005: You accusing me of being condescending and edit warring are BOTH personal attacks that were completely unjustified and uncalled for. Again, you need to apologize for both of those claims immediately. I literally said please and thank you and you still claimed I was attacking people. That is absolutely unacceptable.

I do not think I WP:OWN the article, YOU do. I am simply enforcing the previously established consensus. YOU are the ones trying to impose your views without consensus. And AGAIN, if you'd like to change that consensus, the place is here. Not by edit warring.

So here's what I'd like you do to do: own up to your insults, apologize for them, no hard feelings. Stop edit warring and discuss your proposals here in good faith. Please. There is no need to approach this the way you have. Please. Lazer-kitty (talk) 16:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@Lazer-kitty: Pardon – I wasn't part of this – I literally came here to solve a conflict between two fellow users – and now you're telling me that I'm edit warring, vandalising and pretending to "own" the article? MSport1005 (talk) 16:33, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@MSport1005: Yes. You literally re-added Macau to the article without even including it in your edit summary, so yes, you are absolutely part of this, and you are absolutely edit warring, and you have falsely accused me of "imposing my beliefs on others" when I am doing the literal exact opposite of that. The consensus in these articles for years, and in other racing articles, has been to include only season-long racing series championships as "titles." I did not decide that, that's not "my belief," that's simply the way it's been done. If you guys would like to change that consensus, we need to a have a discussion about it, and I am more than happy to do so if you would simply WP:DROPTHESTICK and engage in a productive discussion about it. So far you have instead chosen to attack me and project your behaviors onto me, which is absolutely unacceptable. I don't like reporting users to the admins and I would strongly prefer if you would simply apologize, WP:DROPTHESTICK, and explain why you think one single race should be counted as a championship title. But I cannot stress enough: the very longtime consensus has been not to do so, and you cannot unilaterally change that consensus. WE change that consensus, together, by talking to each other and having a productive discussion. Not by reverting and attacking others. Lazer-kitty (talk) 16:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

I am not edit warring – I reverted once and no further. You used terms like "explain" and "fix" above which usually don't reflect a willingness to discuss. You're warning others "if you continue to re-add one single race as a title you will be reported for vandalism". You're telling me to WP:DROPTHESTICK even though the current version of the page shows your preferred option. I've asked one and a thousand times to please discuss peacefully. Can we? MSport1005 (talk) 16:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@MSport1005: Yes, if you own up to your insults, apologize for them, and especially stop repeating them. I'm sorry if my original comment was confusing, I thought "please" and "thank you" would make my tone obvious, but you have egregiously misunderstood it. And no, the current version of the page once again has the race included as a title, by a random editor who has come out of nowhere to add it.

The consensus has never been to include Macau as a title, in any context. We need to return to that consensus and THEN discuss. Not keep finding new editors to re-add it. Lazer-kitty (talk) 17:02, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@Road Atlanta Turn 5: Please undo your most recent change, it is against the consensus of these articles. Thanks. Lazer-kitty (talk) 16:56, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Could you show me the consensus that you're talking about? Just trying to see something as I haven't heard of anything regarding Macau. Thanks. Road Atlanta Turn 5 (talk) 17:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)