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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of University of North Carolina at Charlotte student organizations

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Subject lacks the necessary coverage of the grouping from secondary sources (not the university itself or a student newspaper) to meet the WP:NLIST. A PROD was removed with the claim that there are many sources available, but I couldn't find any to support the notability of this list. Let'srun (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Lists, and North Carolina. Let'srun (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion has been included in the DelSort list for: list of Fraternities and sororities-related deletion discussions. Jax MN (talk) 00:48, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - This nomination was offered AFTER two significant references were added, confirming notability and accuracy. While yes, they are from the University, they are operationally distinct from the organizations themselves and are secondary in nature. Student organizations, normally operating without fanfare, are typically not the subject of national news. Nevertheless, on their campuses and in their communities, they remain notable. Some exist for as long as the college has existed. To summarize, this is a list class article, and a work in progress. Deletion would serve no purpose. Jax MN (talk) 00:20, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Student clubs and organizations are not inherently notable. Plus anything published by the university is not independent because it's either written by the students or the administration. Conyo14 (talk) 07:33, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The clubs and organisations listed which have links are not unique or specific to the university itself. Fails WP:NLIST. Ajf773 (talk) 22:57, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per all of the above: student clubs, being overwhelming run of the mill, must show why they are unique and that there’s significant coverage. This is a longstanding consensus here - 16 years ago or even earlier, we deleted a similar list of student government officials at Louisiana State. Bearian (talk) 02:53, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move: The Greek letter portion of this article (fraternities, sororities, and honor societies) is cited to secondary sources and can stand on its own concerning notability. My suggestion is to remove the unsourced content and retain the sourced content under the name "List of University of North Carolina at Charlotte fraternities and sororities". This would be consistent with the treatment of similar content for other institutions in Wikipedia. Trimming and moving the article would take advantage of the efforts of other editors and would be easier than starting a new article about GLOs at UNCC from scratch. Rublamb (talk) 17:18, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV/WP:NLIST. Oppose move. Not seeing the need to save anything as all but one of the Greek life sources are primary sources to the websites of the various fraternities and sororities. That doesn't substantiate having a "List of University of North Carolina at Charlotte fraternities and sororities" because they are not independent sources. If someone were to create a list of this type, they should not be using any of these materials. The only useable source is Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities, but that is not online and is only verifying two of the organizations. There isn't enough here worth saving to make it worth moving. Better to start over fresh. Best.4meter4 (talk) 02:27, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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