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RfC at ANO 2011

I speedy closed your RfC at Talk:ANO 2011 since it violated virtually all guidelines on starting an RfC, including but not limited to leading questions and the fact that it has been ONE month since the last closure, with nobody starting the slightest bit of additional discussion since then. I'm not sure if I can technically do this, but I'm fairly confident the point remains the same regardless. Fermiboson (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Well, I certainly disagree with those assertions. The whole point was questioning the validity of the last the last rfc, so when that rfc happened is neither here nor there. And actually yes, there was another person that started a new topic on the talk page specifically titled "Denial of multiple reliable sources", so I'm clearly not the only person that thinks this. I don’t think you do have the right to do this. You're not an administrator and with all due respect you've been on this platform for less than a year. Helper201 (talk) 10:13, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

I acknowledge the latter point; however, your record does not exactly seem to be clean either. I’d like to note, in particular, WP:1AM which appears to be the case here, notwithstanding the IP you mentioned which only you responded to, and hasn’t said anything else. The closure of the last RfC (which was admittedly also by a non-admin, but nobody’s challenged it) has already expressed concern at the speed at which new RfCs on the same thing were being held. Moreover, the question was definitely leading (“can editors’ views hold precedence over…” holds the implicit assumption that reliable sources do support the claim, which was the entire dispute in the first place); one does not need to spend fifteen years on wiki to see that. I hold that it was a very improper RfC and non-admin closures should not be reverted only on the basis of the fact that the closer was not an admin. If you still think that an admin would view this differently, you are very welcome to ask for one; I would be careful about WP:FORUMSHOP however. Fermiboson (talk) 09:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Workers Party of Britain

Please stop undoing my edit on the Workers Party of Britain page. You reasoning for undoing the edits are false, as the source I provided clearly says what I claim it says, all you have to do is read it. I’m trying to be nice so I’m telling you here now, but if you refuse to stop I will have to report you to an admin for vandalism. 2A02:C7C:A05A:BA00:DDD2:8FB5:6621:D7ED (talk) 01:30, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

The source does not explicitly state what you are saying it does, which breaks WP:SYNTH. I've read it. Helper201 (talk) 01:36, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

The source says "However, developments since that time have led the party to overturn that decision and to withdraw our members’ efforts from the Workers party project, which we believe has failed in its stated aim of becoming a truly broad movement within which communists could work openly, transforming itself into a left-social-democratic vehicle for bourgeois parliamentarism and anticommunism." That is obviously not an explicit statement that the Workers Party of Britain is ideologically communist, nor Marxist–Leninist, nor anti-revisionist, as you have so claimed. Helper201 (talk) 01:41, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Neither of the sources say what the infobox said, so your edit was correct Helper. BobFromBrockley (talk) 03:53, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Hyphen in "left-wing"

Hi Helper201, I see that you reverted my edit to Left Party (Sweden), in which I deleted the hyphen in the phrase "left wing" used as a noun.

I explained my rationale in my edit summary: "no hyphen in 'left wing' as a standalone noun phrase, as opposed to the compound modifier 'left-wing' used as an adjective; see MOS:HYPHEN".

You reverted with the edit summary: "You should really get a consensus for such a change on the talk page of left-wing politics page (where it is hyphenated throughout that main/primary page) before implementing this change on other pages."

There is no conflict between my edit and the usage in the left-wing politics article. As I explained in my edit summary:

• "Left wing" as a noun phrase should have no hyphen.
• "Left-wing" as an adjective (a compound modifier) should have a hyphen.

This is standard English usage. See MOS:HYPHEN for the explanation in Wikipedia's style guide.

The left-wing politics article never uses "left wing" as a noun phrase! Every single occurrence of "left-wing" in that article is an adjective phrase—it modifies a noun, as in "left-wing politics" or "left-wing thought" or "left-wing nationalism"—and hence properly includes a hyphen.

On the other hand, the Left Party (Sweden) article uses "left wing" as a noun phrase in the sentence "It stands on the left wing of the political spectrum." That use should not include a hyphen, because it is a noun phrase. —Bkell (talk) 03:04, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Bkell, okay, my apologies. Thanks for the explanation and happy editing. Helper201 (talk) 03:36, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

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Sophie Anderson

Hi there, I am from Sophie’s family and I can confirm she died on 30th november 2023. Please see the talk pages on Sophie’s page. There are no reliable references stating her date via the media as we have not publicly announced anything regarding Sophie, her death or her life, as we want to remain anonymous. I hope this helps. Thankyou Anonymousfamily (talk) 09:39, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Anonymousfamily, firstly I'd like to say I'm so sorry for your loss. Thank you for reaching out to me about her and helping to honour her memory by making sure we get the facts right. As I'm sure you'll understand an anonymous message is not enough for us to use as evidence of a death date. However, I will remove her stated death date of December and write a note asking for a death date not to be added unless and until a reliable source can confirm a specific date for us. We can then use that on the page as citation. I hope this is useful for you. If you have any further questions, please feel free to message me here. Wishing you, your family and everyone who knew Sophie all the best. Helper201 (talk) 20:10, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Scottish Greens

Hello!

I just wanted to pop by and say thanks for editing (/ subediting, perhaps?) my edits to the Greens article. I am dyselxic, so a lot of the grammar stuff, even with a good look, is always rough!

Should be over soon, I just got really bothered that a party in government had such a lackluster article. Nordrhein-Westfalen-CanlntoSpace (talk) 06:31, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Nordrhein-Westfalen-CanlntoSpace, no problem and thanks for your edits on the page. I'd recommend before making edits for the sake of spelling and grammar to first type up your edits in a Microsoft Word document so it can help detect errors, then copy and paste the edit into the Wikipedia article after. All the best. Helper201 (talk) 18:57, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Ah, good shout. Never thought of that! Nordrhein-Westfalen-CanlntoSpace (talk) 01:31, 4 January 2024 (UTC)