Talk:Mid-level practitioner
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Mid level practitioners include physician assistants, nurse practitioners (by various names, like advanced practice nurse, etc.) and occasionally refers to physiotherapist (PTs). While all nurse practitioners are RNs, RNs are not mid level providers unless they go get the extra 1.5 years of school to be a nurse practitioner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.229.236.211 (talk) 16:44, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
THIS ARTICLE IS ATROCIOUS. IT LITERALLY REEKS OF BIAS. CLEARLY, IT WAS WRITTEN BY SOME NURSE-PRACTITIONER OR PHYSICIAN-ASSISTANT TRYING TO CONVINCE THE READER THAT MID-LEVEL PROVIDERS CAN BE AS GOOD AS DOCTORS. THE BIAS IN THIS ARTICLE IS SO OBVIOUS THAT THE ARTICLE SHOULD BE REMOVED ENTIRELY, OR BE UN-PROTECTED SO THAT IT CAN BE EDITED. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.244.123.54 (talk) 03:44, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
updated
Corrected a lot of things and took out duplicated sentences. | pulmonological talk • contribs 06:39, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
neonatal and pediatric team members
a section needs to be written about the use of mid-level practitioners in critical care teams; especially in neonatal and pediatric critical care units. | pulmonological talk • contribs 06:46, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
correct some errors
change optometrists to mid-level practitioner per DEA website to avoid confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.106.22.82 (talk) 19:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- sectioned off the DEA and other US-specific information, and provided more global definition with additional country examples + references for worldwide perspective Guptan99 (talk) 13:47, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- also edited the definition on the "MLP" disambiguation page for more global perspective Guptan99 (talk) 16:35, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Physicians as the *ultimate* providers of health care
Unless one includes embalmers, there is no higher level of medical care than a responsible fully licensed Physician/Surgeon. DocKrin (talk) 03:27, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
WHO Definition
Can we incorporate the World Health Organization's definition of mid-level practitioner? That would be:
"A health provider: a. Who is trained, authorized and regulated to work autonomously, AND b. Who receives pre-service training at a higher education institution for at least 2-3 years, AND c. Whose scope of practice includes (but is not restricted to) being able to diagnose, manage and treat illness, disease and impairments (including perform surgery, where appropriately trained), prescribe medicines, as well as engage in preventive and promotive care.
POV Bias
This article seems to take a POV that is from that of Mid-Level Lobbyist. Wikipedia should be careful not to endorse biased perspectives.
ExtraEggWithNoodles (talk) 06:41, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia follows the best available reliable sources, even if some people think those sources are 'biased perspectives'. MrOllie (talk) 15:18, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
Social worker not mid level
There is no citation for social workers being considered mid level. They are not a medical profession either and do not practice medicine in any form. Social work should be removed. 47.161.179.194 (talk) 09:14, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- For purposes of this section, “nonphysician practitioner'” means a clinical psychologist, licensed clinical social worker, physician assistant, nurse practitioner, clinical nurse specialist, or certified nurse-midwife. Hue16459 (talk) 20:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- I don't see where that article is cited for that specific section and also it says "for the purpose of this section." That does not make social workers mid levels just because the one agency uses it to make policy easier to . Additionally if you were to add social workers based on that, it should be changed to licensed clinical social workers - not just "social workers." 47.161.179.194 (talk) 23:46, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- Again, that section is specifically in regards to DEA. Since social workers are not listed by DEA it needs to be removed. 47.161.179.194 (talk) 23:50, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- I don't see where that article is cited for that specific section and also it says "for the purpose of this section." That does not make social workers mid levels just because the one agency uses it to make policy easier to . Additionally if you were to add social workers based on that, it should be changed to licensed clinical social workers - not just "social workers." 47.161.179.194 (talk) 23:46, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Assistant physicians
This article need to be addressed as the terminology in in conflict with the licensing of assistant physicians. Missouri law now allows for the licensure and practice of assistant physicians who are graduates of a medical school but are ineligible for licensure as a physician due to being unable to complete a residency training program. These doctors may only refer to themselves as assistant physicians and are required to maintain a collaborative practice agreement with a supervising physician. The law states "The collaborating physician is responsible at all times for the oversight of the activities of and accepts responsibility for primary care services rendered by the assistant physician." Additionally the law further states that "an assistant physician shall be considered a physician assistant for purposes of regulations of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS)". This means that medical school graduates are classified as mid-level practitioners under both the WHO definition and the controlled substance act referenced on this page which refer to terminology from 2011. The modern appropriate terminology recognized by CMS is non-physician practitioner. Hue16459 (talk) 20:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)