Talk:Central African rock python

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On 5 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from African rock python to Central African rock python. The result of the discussion was moved.

Cleaning up some old issues

Interesting to see degredations creep in, if I'm away for a while. Several good faith, but negative adds were made. There were some fine ones as well. Just...easy to see cruft or mistakes come in as well.

1. The "largest ever" keeps getting added as a found in Florida claim. But I researched this and what actually happened is the largest specimen IN FLORIDA, was found in the Everglades. See: [1]. So cutting this false factoid that keeps coming in. (update, added it to the invasive species section).

2. Some comments on snake unlikelihood of attacking humans modified (we had already covered this aspect, new text was not new sourced). Discuss if needed.

TCO (talk) 01:27, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

3. (to do) make tables for the gallery view workarounds.

Removed inclusion of well documented urban myths of African rocks eating people. There has never been a confirmed report of a human being consumed by an African rock, ever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.131.236 (talk) 15:07, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removed the mention of the idiotic theory being floated that an African rock killed two boys in Canada recently. It's not only not verified, it's a ridiculous theory that denies facts. The autopsy report will conclude this definitely. Such speculation has no place in a wiki article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.131.236 (talk) 15:10, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Germans have an FA

Way more sources than we have, many of them in English. Lot of stuff on culture as well. I need to read through it all. Can get by in German, but not fluent. TCO (talk) 03:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

python blues

Just looked at the history of this article. We had an IP delete a sentence about evolution and also lost content description. And then a followup gnome merged the rump para into the next para. So you can't even tell what left.

Also we got overlinking with, for example, subspecies linked twice in a few first sentences. And a "blue next to blue" confusing link (genus and python). (Note the python genus article would be the place where the word genus is linked if there is a tension.)

TCO (talk) 00:45, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Attacks on humans

The page says that :

There has never been a verified report of a human being consumed.

but 2013 New Brunswick python attack says otherwise.

Which is the correct version? XOttawahitech (talk) 20:03, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On page 27 of "Boas and Pythons of the World" by herpetologist Mark O'Shea, the author mentions an incident in Uganda in 1951 where an African Rock Python swallowed a 13 year old, subsequently regurgitating the victim. Neither of the children in the alleged New Brunswick attack were consumed. 99.242.144.216 (talk) 08:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify on the original question, two kids were killed in New Brunswick, but they were not consumed (eaten) by the pythons. In a 2002 case, a 10-year-old was allegedly swallowed by an African Rock Python, but the snake was not captured, and with nothing but witness accounts the incident was not "verified". A 1973 report of a soldier who was recovered from the stomach of a large python was similarly unverifiable. Agyle (talk) 08:57, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 30 August 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 08:25, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Python sebae → African rock python – This very well known snake (one of the largest few snakes in the world by both weight and length) has a well-established and unambiguous common name, so we should use that name as the article title per WP:COMMONNAME / WP:NCFAUNA. The suggested destination name already redirects here, and always has since it was created in 2007. As best I can tell, the article has never yet been moved and no prior formal move discussion has occurred. —BarrelProof (talk) 00:00, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support, per common name (not to mention common sense, if someone yells at you "Watch out, there's a sebae behind you" you might not move as fast. Randy Kryn 14:20, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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New Photo for Taxonbox?

Is there a different photo we can use for the taxonbox? That snake is just grotesquely obese, far beyond the result of even ingesting big meal; many of the body scales don't even meet anymore. The Brevard Zoo photos are just as bad. Any wild photos which would be good? Or just captives that aren't going to die of liver failure in the next few years? HCA (talk) 17:42, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Natalensis is now a species on its own

Please update.

Python natalensis is now a subspecies on its own. And seperated from sebae.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1643835265678127?view=permalink&id=1788498164545169

http://reptile-database.reptarium.cz/species?genus=Python&species=natalensis&search_param=%28%28taxon%3D%27pythonidae%27%29%29

AWDF 09:39, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1643835265678127?view=permalink&id=1788498164545169

The previous classification was changed in 1999. So this wikipedia page needs an update.

(Previously) Northern African Rock Python P.sebae sebae Southern African Rock Python P.sebae natalensis

(After 1999) as classified by cites African Rock Python Python sebae

Southern African Python aka Natal Python Python natalensis

Natalensis is lifted to its own species.

You can contact also rangers@africanwildlifedefenceforce.com for extra verification AWDF 09:48, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

IUCN now shows "Central African python" (P. sebae) and "Southern African Rock Python" (P. natalensis) as two separate species. So does ITIS. ITIS has marked the subspecies names as invalid and the two species-level names as valid. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:37, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this an apex predator?

I think this edit is incorrect but I don't know. Invasive Spices (talk) 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 5 June 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. Uncontroversial. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:11, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

– or Python sebae and Python natalensis. ITIS and IUCN show these as separate species with the suggested article names as the primary common names. ITIS has marked the subspecies-level names as invalid and the two species-level names as valid. The Southern rock python article already includes "African" in the boldfaced common name in its opening sentence. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:50, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I don't see Central African rock python at ITIS, only at the IUCN. Reptile database uses Southern African rock python but not Central African rock python. However, before the species split, the two subspecies were commonly known as the Southern and Central African rock python (e.g. here, here and others), so the IUCN is just using the common names of the subspecies for the same snakes at species level in accord with the revised taxonomy. I see know reason not to follow the IUCN. — Jts1882 | talk 06:01, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Done Dr. Vogel (talk) 17:43, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]