Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/March 2007
March 2007 stub proposal archives
Bird sub-types
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The result of the debate was 3 creates: Galliformes, Anseriformes, and Falconiformes. Others do no create..
- Category:Galliformes stubs 75
- Category:Anseriformes stubs 71
- Category:Anatoidea stubs 69
- Category:Bird of prey stubs 69
- Category:Anatidae stubs 69
- Category:Falconiformes stubs 60
Parent is oversized again. Several of these have been proposed previously: I include them here for the sake of completeness, and since since several of these are either-or. Alai 05:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if we're going by order, then bird of prey is out (especially since falconiformes would cover much of it) - it could easily be hijacked by the star trek project if we weren't careful, too! :) Mind you, that would also rule out anatidae and anatoidea since IIRC they're anseriformes. Given that, I'd go with Galliformes, Anseriformes, and Falconiformes. Keeping to the order level might be appropriate for a while, at least. Grutness...wha? 11:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Butterfly sub-types
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The result of the debate was create.
- Category:Lycaenidae stubs 148
- Category:Nymphalidae stubs 136
- Category:Pieridae stubs 117
- Category:Papilionidae stubs 69
Parent is at exactly 800 stubs at present. Alai 05:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- Wow I can't beleive there's so many butterflies ... support! Goldenrowley 20:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was create.
As the number of stubs in the Category:Senegalese footballers category has reached the consensus tally of 60, I will make and populate the mentioned template and category. Poulsen 11:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Now created. Two stub articles in the Category:Senegalese footballers were about non-Senegalese players, and so the tally is 58 stubs in the newly created category. Poulsen 19:30, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- It was probably the right thing to do, but waiting for the approval period is standard. Please hold off next time as a just in case sort of thing - there have been a few times when I'm sure and then a user points out something I haven't thought of yet. Aelfthrytha 13:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I can't promise you that, in the case of football biography stubs. They have so concrete a structure, that the only real task is counting to 60. Poulsen 16:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- It was probably the right thing to do, but waiting for the approval period is standard. Please hold off next time as a just in case sort of thing - there have been a few times when I'm sure and then a user points out something I haven't thought of yet. Aelfthrytha 13:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was create.
I propose this to subcategory to help differentiate the 8 page list of historians, and also to eliminate double stubbing (art and historian). I checked and over 60. People put them in the generic "art category" a lot. Goldenrowley 19:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC) (Forgive my momentary lapse of impeccable English) Goldenrowley 19:09, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Support per nom as one who is responsible for some of that double stubbing. Caerwine Caer’s whines 19:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- note I have nothing against double stubs (I take that approach too) it just will be neater and nicer ! Goldenrowley 21:49, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Gulf of Chiriqui
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The result of the debate was not really a stub question, but GR adding the article to Wikipedia for Seacritter..
{{Panama-geo-stub}}/ Gulf of Chiriqui
The Gulf of Chiriqui is a unique part of Panama. This Gulf also encompasses Coiba National Park and Golfo de Chiriqui National Park. There are many islands in this Gulf. Along with the islands of Coiba National Park there is also Islas Secas, Los Ladrones, Parilla and Montuoso. Montuoso is the farthest island from Panama in this Gulf. During certain seasons, you can even spot Galapagos seals on Montuoso. The Gulf of Chiriqui also includes one of the most famous fishing areas, Hannibal Banks. Here the sky is the limit as to the size of the fish you can catch. (Seacritter 20:20, 3 March 2007 (UTC))
- If that's a stub you wish to create, and your account is too new to allow you to do so yourself, you're probably looking for WP:AFC. Alai 21:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
{{IR-stub}}
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The result of the debate was sent to SFD for deletion.
Stub for use by Wikipedia:WikiProject Irish Republicanism. One Night In Hackney303 00:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- What does Infrared have to with Irish Republicanism? A definite need for a rename to something way less ambiguous at a minimum. Caerwine Caer’s whines 01:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Could be redirected to finance-stub, since I doubt there would be enough stubs on Inland Revenue for their own stub type. More seriously, this should definitely be deleted - republicanism in Ireland is to do with irish politicvs and irish history, and as such either an Ireland-poli-stub or Ireland-hist-stub would be the way to go. We don't have stubs for republicanism movements in other countries, and there's no reason why we should start with one that is a likely edit-war magnet like the Irish one. Grutness...wha? 04:14, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- delete for being ambiguous. Monni 05:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
{{criminology-stub}} / {{criminal-justice-stub}}
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The result of the debate was No consensus reached..
I've been working on criminology topics, as one of my areas of focus on Wikipedia. Despite my slow efforts, our coverage of this topic remains poor. I just created an article on the highly influential work, The Division of Labour in Society by Emile Durkheim, which is a classic work that is covered in basic-level criminology (and sociology) university courses. I'm surprised that this article did not exist yet. A few months back, I also found that no article existed on gun violence. (this is still a stub) As I keep working on this topic, I'm sure to find many more such missing articles. When I create them, I'd like to tag them as a stub, with something more specific than {{crime-stub}}. This stub category isn't quite appropriate for articles like The Division of Labour in Society, which is a hodgepodge category. The same situation applies to our coverage of criminal justice topics, which deal with the system/response aspects of crime such as corrections (prisons and other forms of punishment) and law enforcement. The {{crime-stub}} category includes numerous articles on correctional facilities (e.g. Sullivan Correctional Facility, Sugamo Prison, Ogdensburg Correctional Facility, to name a few). At this point, I'm pretty much the WikiProject, and hope you will cut me some slack on the "good number of stub articles" requirement. I think many of these stub articles don't exist yet. Stub categories that are more specific than "crime" would help me (and others) keep track of articles and work on criminology and criminal justice topics. --Aude (talk) 19:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, I see that we have {{prison-stub}}, which helps. It still would help to have something between {{crime-stub}} and {{prison-stub}}. "Crime" is just too broad, and sorting things into more specific stub categories such as {{criminal-justice-stub}} and {{criminology-stub}} would help me enormously. --Aude (talk) 19:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- There's already {{law-enforcement-stub}}, {{criminal-law-stub}}, {{forensics-stub}} and {{criminologist-stub}} in addition to the aforementioned {{prison-stub}}. (Not to mention {{crime-bio-stub}} and {{crime-org-stub}}.) With only ~450 crime stubs and apparently a fair degree of undersorting (which sadly is not that unusual for stub categories), I'm inclined to be skeptical of the desirability of either proposed stub without some indication that there are the normal amount stubs for creating a new stub type. Caerwine Caer’s whines 21:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- {{criminologist-stub}} could be merged into {{criminology-stub}}. {{law-enforcement-stub}}, {{forensics-stub}}, and {{prison-stub}} would be subcategories of {{criminal-justice-stub}}. If really necessary, I could probably find 30-60 stubs to create for each... the topic is that underrepresented. But don't have the time to do that now, and it's better to do them more gradually. And such arbitrary requirements are just that... arbitrary. For now, I just won't bother tagging them as stubs, because lumping all these together under {{crime-stub}}, especially for criminology topics, is not useful for people working on the articles. --Aude (talk) 21:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think the first task is to sort the crime stub articles into the 5 (or more) existing categories, then see how many are have left over, since Carewine mentioned there are 450 undersorted crime stubs, a good sort may clean it right up into good condition again? Goldenrowley 05:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- {{criminologist-stub}} could be merged into {{criminology-stub}}. {{law-enforcement-stub}}, {{forensics-stub}}, and {{prison-stub}} would be subcategories of {{criminal-justice-stub}}. If really necessary, I could probably find 30-60 stubs to create for each... the topic is that underrepresented. But don't have the time to do that now, and it's better to do them more gradually. And such arbitrary requirements are just that... arbitrary. For now, I just won't bother tagging them as stubs, because lumping all these together under {{crime-stub}}, especially for criminology topics, is not useful for people working on the articles. --Aude (talk) 21:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- There's already {{law-enforcement-stub}}, {{criminal-law-stub}}, {{forensics-stub}} and {{criminologist-stub}} in addition to the aforementioned {{prison-stub}}. (Not to mention {{crime-bio-stub}} and {{crime-org-stub}}.) With only ~450 crime stubs and apparently a fair degree of undersorting (which sadly is not that unusual for stub categories), I'm inclined to be skeptical of the desirability of either proposed stub without some indication that there are the normal amount stubs for creating a new stub type. Caerwine Caer’s whines 21:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)