User talk:String tree

February 2023

Hello, I'm Fieryninja. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, J. M. W. Turner, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Fieryninja (talk) 07:46, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

That J M W Turners family had recently (a few years) moved to London before his birth is widley known in South Molton where he came from and where I live.

Sadly the hour or more I've spent searching this morning has only produced a blog spot (https://blogs.bl.uk/untoldlives/2017/08/old-dad-turner-and-son-in-twickenham.) which is not the kind of source I would reference.

I wished to dispel the notion that he was a Londoner (Cockney) his father would have had a strong west Country accent.

I remain confident in the truth of my addition but the first few pages of online results only contain the same information often word for word.

I haven't found the vocabulary for a more successful search.

Still finding my way,

String tree String tree (talk) 09:36, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi String Tree. Finding a reliable source is often the trickiest part but necessary so that other editors can verify the content, even if it is widely known in a particular area. WP:CITE may be useful to you. Hopefully you will find the source you are looking for. All the best. Fieryninja (talk) 11:47, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're quite right. Sorry to waste your time. You will apreciate it's difficult when I went to school with two of his famillies decendants.

I will persue the matter when I get the time. String tree (talk) 16:13, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Will you consider:

Turner’s father, raised in nearby South Molton but long established in London, had visited Barnstaple earlier in the same year, apparently on family business.1

https://www.tate.org.uk/art/research-publications/jmw-turner/joseph-mallord-william-turner-barnstaple-r1137142 String tree (talk) 16:49, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Got it :)

https://www.tate.org.uk/art/research-publications/jmw-turner/joseph-mallord-william-turner-1775-1851-r1141041

"Joseph Mallord William Turner was born, it is thought, on 23 April 1775 at 21 Maiden Lane, Covent Garden, London, the son of William Turner (1745–1829), a barber and wig-maker, and his wife Mary, née Marshall (1739–1804). His father, born in South Molton, Devon, had moved to London around 1770 to follow his own father’s trade." String tree (talk) 16:58, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi String Tree. This is a good source. You can try adding the information to the article, written in your own words of course, and add the citation as shown in WP:CITE. If any editors disagree with your entry and it is reverted for any reason, you should then discuss it on the article's talk page to avoid an WP:EDITWAR. Best wishes Fieryninja (talk) 18:01, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

May 2023

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Bandy. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. I'm not sure quite what you're intending to say by adding this Scottish 16th century quote to the top of the article's history section, but if you are interpreting it as an explicit reference to the sport of Bandy, this is inappropriate original research. Belbury (talk) 18:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The description of the game Bandy in the A Devonshire Dialogue by Mary Palmer (1716 – 27 May 1794) is quite clear:

"Bandy,s. a game, like that of Golf, in which the adverse parties endeavour to beat a ball (generally a knob or gnarl from the trunk of a tree,) opposite ways. From Bendan, Sax. to bend; because the stick with which the game is played is crook'd at the end;..."

https://archive.org/details/adialogueindevo00palmgoog/page/n40/mode/2up

I have undertaken no original research the research was undertaken by Mary Palmer durring her lifetime. The link works I am unclear what the problem is, can you clarify?

The earlier reference which has also been removed I will investigate.

thanks String tree (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]