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Reviewer: Kusma (talk · contribs) 12:42, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Will take this one. Expect comments within the next few days. —Kusma (talk) 12:42, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:48, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Section by section review

Overall the article is written for people who already know a lot about Middle-Earth. I'm not convinced it needs to be; slightly more context and background in a few places would make it a lot more accessible.

  • Lead: Perhaps try to start with a sentence giving the context (fictional universe by JRRT).
  • J. R. R. Tolkien: The section starts quite abruptly with a specific scholar's explanation of his views on architecture in his work. Perhaps re-title; this really is about JRRT's various imagined architectures and the scholarly view of these, not about the person.
  • Hobbit-holes: a one-sentence description of what they are (and that hobbit hole means comfort) would again help the non-expert. Think of someone who has only seen Amazon's Rings of Power.
  • You are citing 22 pages of Fonstad, and the same 22 pages as for Honegger? Double check. Do we know whether Tolkien deliberately left room for others or is this just something that happened?
  • Can we have a short description of Rivendell and its architecture?
  • Who is John Ruskin and what are his principles of architecture? (Help us poor ignoramuses out by giving us context).
  • You have a rather selective supply of examples, with nothing from Dwarvish architecture. What about Moria? Dale? Erebor? The Morannon? The Halls of Elvenking Thranduil? (Not to mention Gondolin, Nargothrond or Angband). Tolkien's Numenor could also be mentioned here to contrast it with the Amazon version.
  • Perhaps it's just me, but the Constantinople pic makes me think of Osgiliath (the proper capital of Gondor), not Minas Anor.
  • Peter Jackson: this section seems just about the LoTR film series; what about the Hobbit films?
  • Is bigatures enough of a real word to be used without quotation marks around it?
  • We have the Oscar for Art Direction; would it make sense to mention the people (Alan Lee is one of them, but the connection is not made).
  • Payne/McKay: Technically, Numenor isn't in Middle Earth, but I guess we can use "Middle-Earth" to mean Arda in this context. What about Moria?
  • Fans: We learn very little about fans here, other than the short bit about Wilkins confessing being a Tolkien nerd in her youth. I am not convinced by this section; much of the content about Minas Tirith could be in the Tolkien section, and the rest is only very tangential about architecture.

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
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