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Article name

Hello. I think it was about time somebody created article on this topic. Nonetheless I have a suggestion regarding the name. I believe it would be better if we have a more language-neutral name of the article, e.g. "Karslbad Program" or "Karlovy Vary Program". What is the prevalence in English-language sources?--Darwinek (talk) 13:17, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looking on Google Books, "Karlsbad Program" seems to be by far the most common term in English sources. "Karlovy Vary program" gets a few hits referring to this and a few for an arms control conference in 1967. "Karlsbader Programm" gets a sprinkling of English but mostly German sources. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 21:12, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that English-language historiography almost invariably uses the terms "Carlsbad Programme" or "Karlsbad Programme". Searching Wikipedia with those terms gives "page does not exist" results, though, in the latter case, "karlsbader programm" is prompted. However, this being en.Wikipedia, I think it would be appropriate to rename the article. If there are no objections, I will do so after an appropriate interval.

The next question: Carlsbad or Karlsbad? Karlsbad is the German name for Karlovy Vary. But since the usual English name for København is Copenhagen (not Kopenhagen), I would suggest Carlbad is more appropriate – with a redirect from Karlsbad. (Incidentally, en.Wikipedia has an article on the Carlsbad Decrees of 1819.)

Perhaps we also need an article on the Fourth Plan? - Vltava (talk) 23:45, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]