Talk:Maslow's hierarchy of needs

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Motivational Theory

There has been a lot of argument as to the credibility or lack thereof, for this theory. However although unintended for management theories for motivation by Maslow; in practical terms if there is a manager with a small team of deflated workers, it's a little start, a 'so basic it might just help' theory that when a manager, whose head is full of figures and responsibilities that are so far away from the likes of arguments of principals and credibilities or science versus pyscho-babble, that when that manager thinks yes that might help! I'll put a drinks vendor in the office, or i'll put a security light up just by the exit where some workers stand at night waiting to be picked up, or lets have one to ones to address peoples goals, then that is when something as incorrect or not may just make that bit of a difference to peoples spirits, maybe even just for one day, but it could just add a bit of warmth to a usually cold, mundane place. That in that sense may just turn out to be more important to those people than even whether the earth go round the sun. On that day at least!

Energy Hierarchy link in the See also section.

I apologize if I'm completely missing something here, but I wonder, how is the Energy Hierarchy article link relevant in the "See also" section of an article about Maslow's theory of hierarchy of needs?

air as a need -- it's for the oxygen

I made the edit that suggested that the need for air is really for oxygen. Obviously, any other atmosphere causes quick suffocation. Nitrogen is appropriate for pressure, but pure nitrogen will cause death. Indeed, one proposed method of capital punishment is an oxygen-depleted, pure-nitrogen atmosphere.

That edit was reverted. Atmospheric oxygen is the need. Oxygen combined with other elements is inadequate for respiration, and liquid oxygen is much too dangerous. I suggest that the edit be restored; it is just too obvious to ignore. I will not do the reversion myself. Pbrower2a (talk) 10:33, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

This is article is about psychology, not physics or chemistry. The lay understanding of "air" is "stuff you breathe in order to live". There is absolutely no reader that will think that Maslow thought that people don't need oxygen perse to breathe, so simply writing that people need air to breathe is perfectly sufficient. This point does not need belaboring I think, but I will also mention that the given source also simply mentions "air", not "oxygen".--Megaman en m (talk) 10:49, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

I agree with this point and its reasoning. Seconded. L'être et le néant (talk) 15:05, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Ordering and listing needs

I have seen this go back and forth countless times, and digging into the edit history of the page this appears to have been happening for years. So I will ask for consensus:

Should the list of needs within each category, especially physiological needs, be listed and included in:

• Alphabetical order
• The order and inclusion in some specific citation (and if so, which one? The original is ancient.)
• In order of importance (and according to who, since this process is extremely subjective)
• Or some other order?

Darcyisverycute (talk) 23:46, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

I'd suggest you pick an order, and specify that in the sentence before the list. E.g.: Physiological needs (sorted alphabetically) include: - or something like that. Frankly, any list which includes sexual intercourse as a physiological need gets little more than snickers from me (and yes, I'm aware the original references include sex), so it's hard to take seriously any concern about ordering. Tarl N. (discuss) 05:30, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

I think it needs to be disclosed that Maslow did not explicitly mention most of the things listed, on his original paper at least, that they're just examples his readers came up with. Amber W Li (talk) 05:36, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

"Master race"—citation needed

The citation provided does not substantiate this line:

Maslow studied what he called the master race of people such as Albert Einstein, Jane Addams, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Frederick Douglass rather than mentally ill or neurotic people, writing that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy."

The term "master race" does not appear at all in the text referenced, Motivation And Personality. Could not find any reference online to his use of this term whatsoever. Could not find reference to Frederick Douglass in that text either. A list of subjects is found on p202. Further, that quote at the end is found on p234 of the linked source, not p236. KCzar (talk) 20:28, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

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Add anti aging to the basic needs

Anti aging is technically a basic need. It's needed less often than the other needs on the list though. LukeyBear11 (talk) 01:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)