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Undefined referenes through excerpt
I'm trying to sort out why 59th Venice Biennale gives errors about the reference "Artnews" being undefined. The text (and the reference definition) are brought in by {{excerpt}} from List of national pavilions at the 59th Venice Biennale. The source artilce renders without error, and I've done some poking at it to try to figure out what's wrong ... but nothing makes a fix.
Anyone able to help me sort it out please? - Mikeblas (talk) 22:38, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- References from quoted articles have the article name prepended, in this case <ref name="List of national pavilions at the 59th Venice Biennale Artnews">. This is to prevent clashes when both articles use the same name (commonly <ref name=":0"> etc.) for different citations. Certes (talk) 23:28, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Is that relevant here? I don't think it is becuawe 59th Venice Biennale doesn't invoke any references defined in the excerpted text. -- Mikeblas (talk) 01:06, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Partly. The problem seems to be that some of the citations use just name="Artnews" but others use name="Artnews" group="". The name isn't being changed when it appears with group="". Pinging Sophivorus. Certes (talk) 09:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I must be missing something; all the usage I see is
<ref name="Artnews"/>, without a group name attribute (not even a blank one). -- Mikeblas (talk) 13:50, 26 April 2022 (UTC)- No, I was missing something. I put
{{excerpt|List of national pavilions at the 59th Venice Biennale|National pavilions}}through Special:ExpandTemplates and noted that some ref tags had group="" and didn't get a prefix. I hadn't spotted that they were expansions of {{r}} in the original article. That no longer happens now that the article contains a workaround. Certes (talk) 14:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- No, I was missing something. I put
- I must be missing something; all the usage I see is
- Partly. The problem seems to be that some of the citations use just name="Artnews" but others use name="Artnews" group="". The name isn't being changed when it appears with group="". Pinging Sophivorus. Certes (talk) 09:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Is that relevant here? I don't think it is becuawe 59th Venice Biennale doesn't invoke any references defined in the excerpted text. -- Mikeblas (talk) 01:06, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Observation: it seems to work fine when it came across more named references, such as
<ref name="Artnews"/>, but fails when it is trying to call the reference via{{r|...}}on the remote article. I replaced one instance of r with the declaration and the problem went away. For your immediate need @Mikeblas: you could do the rest of those, as in Special:Diff/1084771632. — xaosflux Talk 14:05, 26 April 2022 (UTC)