Talk:Welsh devolution

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Roman history is not relevant to devolution

An era before any inkling of Welsh identity existed, or any notion of sovereign states as we know them today (states by/from which devolution is granted), is irrelevant; I don't believe you'll find any serious sources linking Roman history to devolution. It's WP:SYNTH. @TG11TG15: I've already removed it once with an explanatory edit summary, please don't restore it again. Jr8825 • Talk 19:08, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this. Looking at sources, we should only really talk about pre-19thC history in summary to establish Wales' legal and cultural relationship to Wales.Vladimir.copic (talk) 22:13, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would argue that Magnus Maximus devolved the command of northern celtic Briton (prehistoric Wales) to Coel Hen prior to 383. I cited this also. Please have a read about this devolvement and let me know what you think after re-considering. Thank you. TG11TG15 (talk) 20:19, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article is really about a specific thing, in my opinion, 19th-21st century devolution of governance from the United Kingdom/England. We are stretching the scope of the article too far to include Roman era local governance. As I said above, and is reflected in most sources, pre-19th century history is only given to establish Wales' relationship to England. Vladimir.copic (talk) 23:00, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I'll stick to devolution following the Staute of Rhuddlan. TG11TG15 (talk) 23:55, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio of Senedd website

This still isn't fully fixed, as Earwig's copyvio detector result shows. I don't have time to reword the sections tonight myself, if nobody gets round to it I'll try to resolve the last offending sections tomorrow. Jr8825 • Talk 19:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I re-worded when I added but clearly not quite enough. Some is technical legal language which is difficult to change. I've come back to it. If you could point out specific subheadings to re-word better that would be helpful. Thanks TG11TG15 (talk) 20:21, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cymru Fydd & David Lloyd George

Just FYI - Removed previous, unreferenced content. - Copied and adapted content (from David Lloyd George page) that I wrote myself, so no need for additional citation. TG11TG15 (talk) 22:32, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting Page into: "History of Welsh devolution" and "Proposed further Welsh devolution"

I was considering splitting this page into "History of Welsh devolution" and "Proposed further Welsh devolution" because the page is now quite long. I was wondering if anyone else agrees with this or supports keeping the page as it is?? ThanksTitus Gold (talk) 01:08, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]