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Requested move 14 March 2020

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved to Body hacking. There is a clear consensus that the current title is not ideal, but the preferred move target is less clear. However, Body hacking appears to be acceptable to a majority of discussion participants, and already redirects here. BD2412 T 00:39, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Grinder (biohacking) → Grinder (subculture) – Per WP:CONSISTENCY and because it's not obvious to many people what "biohacking" actually means. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 10:58, 14 March 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. Jerm (talk) 15:17, 21 March 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. BD2412 T 17:57, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: "Grinder" appears to be an informal slang term for the more official term "biohacker". Reliable sources tend to use the name "biohacker" so maybe we should be using that instead of "grinder"? See... BBC Guardian Independent Bloomberg Suggest a better title for this article might be "Biohacking (subculture)", with the term "grinder" introduced in the lead as an alternative name used by proponents. Rodney Baggins (talk) 10:01, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Biohacking is used to describe at least two unrelated subcultures, which is why it's currently a disambiguation page. I actually think Body hacking is a better title for this article. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 15:11, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge this article and Do-it-yourself biology, either into DIY Biology or just on top of the (current) disambig page Biohacking. There's not enough material to make a useful or interesting distinction between "people who do biohacking" (the current Grinder article) and "biohacking itself" so just merge 'em. The other 3 meanings at the disambig page seem very distant and worthy of perhaps a See also, not really likely to be disambig targets. SnowFire (talk) 06:01, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @SnowFire: So, grinders and DIY biology are two separate communities, despite both using the label "biohacking". A while ago when I reorganized these articles, I did a pretty thorough search of articles on biohacking, and all (but one) of them mentioned either grinders or DIY biology, but not both. The only article I found that does mention both [1] pretty clearly indicates that they're separate. So they need to have separate articles. That being said, I think the use of the term "biohacking" is consfusing, so that's why I prefer using the term "body hacking" in this article title. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 20:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support move, though I think Grinder (body hacking) or Body hacking would be better for the reasons given above. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 20:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support move, Grinder is seen to be the more physical (technology) side of biohacking in general. While biohacking can cover both technology and biology while most people think of biohacking as one thing is is at least 2 subcultures so suggest that we mane them "Biohacking (subculture)" where subculture could be hardware or biological — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.153.110 (talk) 16:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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