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Requested move 21 April 2022

Asynchronous Connection-Less → Asynchronous Connection-oriented Logical transport – ACL is a formally defined Bluetooth concept defined in the Bluetooth core specification (see bluetooth.com). It has always stood for Asynchronous Connection-oriented Logical transport and the current page title is therefore incorrect. Bluetooth SIG mdw (talk) 13:45, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). DanCherek (talk) 13:15, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The requestor is not autoconfirmed. Per their user page, I would also believe that them performing the page move may be considered a conflict of interest. Steel1943 (talk) 20:23, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Steel1943, there's no conflict of interest here. On the contrary, my organisation the Bluetooth SIG is the sole authority on the technicalities and terminology relating to Bluetooth technology and all manufacturers follow our specifications. We're simply trying to correct a page which is 100% incorrect in using the wrong meaning for the technical acronym ACL. This is easily verified by looking at the Bluetooth core specification, Table 3.4 on P238 where ACL is defined. The specification is available from https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/. FYI we're a not for profit standards organisation and our sole interest is in accuracy and ensuring manufacturers and developers follow the specifications correctly and produce interoperable, specification compliant devices. In short... I'm trying to make Wikipedia's coverage of Bluetooth better :-) Bluetooth SIG mdw (talk) 10:04, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: This seems to violate MOS:SIGCAPS, and this source refers to "Asynchronous Connection-Less (ACL) packets". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 06:02, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi BarrelProof. I don't understand the first of your points re: MOS:SIGCAPS. Could you clarify please? As for the second point and the page I am requesting is renamed, yes that page does use the term "Asynchronous Connection-Less (ACL)". It is however 100% incorrect which can be verified with respect to the Bluetooth core specification. This is the sole technical reference for Bluetooth technology and terminology. Bluetooth SIG mdw (talk) 10:06, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps MOS:EXPABBR is a better reference, along with MOS:CAPSACRS. Capital letters should not be used for the purpose of explaining an abbreviation on Wikipedia. The hyphen in the current article title is also rather strange in English. Also, can you comment on [the source that I linked on the NIST website? That's not the only one – another that is even more spot-on is here. Is this a concept only used in the Bluetooth context, or is it a concept also used elsewhere? Is it possible that there are two different subjects – one that is connectionless and one that is connection-oriented, that use the same abbreviation? When I search the web for "Asynchronous Connection-Less", I do find some uses (also "Asynchronous Connectionless Link"). When I search for "Asynchronous Connection-oriented Logical transport", I seem to find less (even without "transport"). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:18, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, to note, sometimes Wikipedia articles use a WP:COMMONNAME for articles, even if it's not technically the correct name, if that's the name people are more likely to search for. I can't comment if that's the case here though. Regarding SIGCAPS, WP:NCCAPS is probably the more relavent guideline for article titles. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:42, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, the name used currently is not a common name. It is simply incorrect. Worse, FYI there are two primary modes of wireless communication; connection-oriented and connectionless. ACL uses the connection-oriented mode but the incorrect text on the page I wish to change designates ACL as being related to connectionless communication. It's both wrong in terms of the words corresponding to A, C and L but also technically incorrect. Bluetooth SIG mdw (talk) 11:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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