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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Radiant! (talk | contribs) at 14:41, 15 February 2007 (→Raised on [[WP:AN]]: why?). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

I'd support merging. If the pages become too big, then we can have subpages under the same policy heading. So, for instance, Wikipedia:Deletion Policy may need to have '/undeletions' - but at least we'd keep it all together and have a composite introduction to the various parts--Docg 10:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I can see the point. Can I suggest that Wikipedia:No personal attacks, Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:No legal threats be merged to a new page, Wikipedia:Behavioural policy, so that each page could have its own section and shortcut, because I would hate to see those useful statements declared in the page headers disappear. They have a vitality, an emphasis, which is needed here. Might also be worth considering merging Wikipedia:Deletion policy, Wikipedia:Undeletion policy and Wikipedia:Category deletion policy to Wikipedia:Deletion policies for a similar rationale. Steve block Talk 10:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note the existence of {{Policylist Deletion}}. Separate pages are still possible if they are linked enough. Very large pages can put people off reading them. I've suggested "executive summaries" with "detailed subpages" in the past. Also, please don't confuse policies and "how-to guides". The latter are helpful when kept separate from the policies. Carcharoth 10:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

some suggesitons

  • I think we could keep most of the old names intact (e.g. Deletion Policy, and What Wikipedia Is Not) simply because most people know those names. Not sure about BLP though, it's a rather awkward name. >Radiant< 11:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think BLP needs to stay. It is one policy that we are often having to refer non-Wikipedians too in regard to OTRS. Thus the name needs to be self-explanatory. It must not be confused with libels - else we get the 'it is true' 'they won't sue' responses. As the policy isn't just about bios but also bio material in other articles, perhaps we could rename it Wikipedia:Biographical information. It is really a sub policy of WP:V in reality.--Docg 11:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Draft

Just to give some suggestions, here's a possible Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Draft. It still needs work, of course, feel free to edit. If people disagree with merging DEL, UNDEL and other pages, well, the main DEL page could use a rewrite anyway. >Radiant< 13:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Raised on WP:AN

Doc G directed me here to avoid parallel discussion ... I would not like to see Wikipedia:Blocking policy and Wikipedia:Banning policy merged, as blocks and bans are explicitly not the same thing. Same goes for undeletion/deletion. Keeping them separate makes it easier for editors, particularly newer editors, to see what they need to see, rather than having to pick out the applicable parts of a huge page. Copyright violation and Copyrights are separate for good reason. I am not even sure how Wikipedia:Sock puppetry and Wikipedia:Usurpation are meant to overlap. Libel and BLP could be merged, though, as WP:LIBEL has very little content that isn't duplicated on BLP already. Proto ► 13:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid that I disagree with all of this. Whilst merging anything is not necessary, it may be advantageous. New users do tend to get confused by multiple policies. If related things can be kept together, so we've only got a few policies and less alphabet soup, all the better. No, blocks and bans are not the same thing, but they are related and often confused. Setting down the differences and how the relate to each other on one page may be very beneficial. Same with policies on user behaviour, or on user accounts. However, BLP and Libel should NOT be merged. They are NOT the same thing. BLP covers many instances where libel is not in view, and if the two were confused, we'd have real dangers of less care being taken by people who were sure they weren't libeling - but were opining negatively without citations.--Docg 14:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If our blocking policy also covers unblocking, and our protection policy also covers unprotection, why shouldn't our deletion policy cover undeletion? Of course they're not the same thing, but they're very closely related. >Radiant< 14:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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