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Lower case in telegraph code?

Re: Original Baudot, Continental European

  • Currently: t 0074
  • Why isn't: T 0054

Tree4rest (talk) 22:29, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the "t" seems wrong. I changed it to "T". Guy Harris (talk) 00:33, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nope! It appears, in the leftmost chart of "Fig 1. The Baudot code" in the reference for that table, that it's an underlined superscript lower-case "t". I'm not sure what that would be used for; there are other underlined superscripted upper-case letters, such as "F", "H", and "O". U+1D57 is "MODIFIER LETTER SMALL T", which is in the "Phonetic Extensions" block, but, according to the official Unicode chart, it's not underlined, so, if it really is underlined, it'd have to be mapped to a combining character plus "MODIFIER LETTER SMALL T". Guy Harris (talk) 05:27, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Underlined superscripted letters in "Original Baudot, Continental European"?

Does anybody know what the characters shown as superscripted, double-underlined letters in the left-hand chart of "Fig 1. The Baudot code" of the reference for the charts in "Original Baudot, Continental European" are? The letters appear to be capital "F", capital "H", capital or lower-case "O"/"o", and lower-case "t". I tried some Web searching, but didn't find anything obvious. Guy Harris (talk) 05:34, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Messed up tables

How is this

meant to be an improvement on this?

In my browser, the first one has a huge whitespace to the right. The second version you tried leaves behind a key that will be baffling to the reader. SpinningSpark 17:02, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spinningspark, As I have told you several times, all data tables need captions (per MOS:TABLECAPTION) and you should not have nested tables (!): that's wildly inaccessible. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:18, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You've told me, but you are not in charge any more than I am. I'm all for making things more accessible, but that shouldn't be done at the expense of sacrificing the appearance for the majority of readers. Your latest attempt has unhidden the table which makes the article more difficult for readers (probably the majority) who want to just skip past the table. I'm not saying there is not a problem, but can you please explain exactly what the problem is, then perhaps between us we can come up with a solution. Why does a caption work better than the rolled up title of a hidden table? Why do you consider the nesting to be nesting of data tables when the table is only wrapped inside a title, not more data? SpinningSpark 18:23, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Spinningspark, I've made several attempts at this: how about you do the work that you keep on offloading to me. How things look is not anywhere near as important as how accessible they are and the current version is perfectly fine aesthetically and is accessible. See MOS:SMALL, MOS:TABLECAPTION, and MOS:COLLAPSE: as far as I can tell, you haven't read them and you keep on inserting nested tables as well (!) which is totally inaccessible. The fact that you keep on doing this seems to prove that you haven't read or comprehended Help:Table#Nested_tables or any other documentation on tables that I have repeatedly asked you to read. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:39, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I notice the table headers that say "sort keys" don't work. I have no idea if that has anything to do with the above discussion. 2602:24A:DE47:BA60:8FCB:EA4E:7FBD:4814 (talk) 23:29, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inland & Continental: British order?

While continental order looks rather logical to code both vowels and consonants in their natural order on 5 bits (31 values), what is supposed to be the inland/British logic?

Is it more an order for coding numbers on 4 bits (15 values)? a reuse of any previous code? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.67.202.154 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

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